Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.
The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?
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I saw the links thank you please notice the lase links speaks of the Mosaic Law I speak of the ten commandments.
And the 10 commandments are not a part of the Mosaic law? You mean to say you have a different belief about that also?
@mailman, @pinebeach @inquisotor
Guys, please it is easy to say... this if not true, this is heresy, t his is wrong....,
From Now on please lets discuss the right way, provide scripture to make your point like I do please it is all I ask.
thank you for understanding.
Guys, please it is easy to say... this if not true, this is heresy, t his is wrong....,
From Now on please lets discuss the right way, provide scripture to make your point like I do please it is all I ask.
thank you for understanding.
What is a Christian? from the link I posted back a few posts
Unfortunately over time, the word “Christian” has lost a great deal of its significance and is often used of someone who is religious or has high moral values but who may or may not be a true follower of Jesus Christ. Many people who do not believe and trust in Jesus Christ consider themselves Christians simply because they go to church or they live in a “Christian” nation. But going to church, serving those less fortunate than you, or being a good person does not make you a Christian. Going to church does not make you a Christian any more than going to a garage makes you an automobile. Being a member of a church, attending services regularly, and giving to the work of the church does not make you a Christian.
The Bible teaches that the good works we do cannot make us acceptable to God. Titus 3:5 says, “He saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.” So, a Christian is someone who has been born again by God (John 3:3; John 3:7; 1 Peter 1:23) and has put faith and trust in Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:8 tells us that it is “…by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God.”
A true Christian is a person who has put faith and trust in the person and work of Jesus Christ, including His death on the cross as payment for sins and His resurrection on the third day. John 1:12 tells us, “Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.” The mark of a true Christian is love for others and obedience to God’s Word (1 John 2:4, 10). A true Christian is indeed a child of God, a part of God’s true family, and one who has been given new life in Jesus Christ.
Unfortunately over time, the word “Christian” has lost a great deal of its significance and is often used of someone who is religious or has high moral values but who may or may not be a true follower of Jesus Christ. Many people who do not believe and trust in Jesus Christ consider themselves Christians simply because they go to church or they live in a “Christian” nation. But going to church, serving those less fortunate than you, or being a good person does not make you a Christian. Going to church does not make you a Christian any more than going to a garage makes you an automobile. Being a member of a church, attending services regularly, and giving to the work of the church does not make you a Christian.
The Bible teaches that the good works we do cannot make us acceptable to God. Titus 3:5 says, “He saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.” So, a Christian is someone who has been born again by God (John 3:3; John 3:7; 1 Peter 1:23) and has put faith and trust in Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:8 tells us that it is “…by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God.”
A true Christian is a person who has put faith and trust in the person and work of Jesus Christ, including His death on the cross as payment for sins and His resurrection on the third day. John 1:12 tells us, “Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.” The mark of a true Christian is love for others and obedience to God’s Word (1 John 2:4, 10). A true Christian is indeed a child of God, a part of God’s true family, and one who has been given new life in Jesus Christ.
After all you wrote about me and me still speaking to you is the proof that I am.Don't ask me if you are
As a follower of Christ then I am a christian onbiously, look at my posts I keep writing about Christ, constantly, that should tell you quite a lot about me, at least I hope it does.
Right which is why you threatened to report me and yestereday yelled at me (giant letters) and showed real anger and hostility.
Gotcha
truth is not hostilityRight which is why you threatened to report me and yestereday yelled at me (giant letters) and showed real anger and hostility.
Gotcha
Eternal life is through faith in Christ, in His shed blood and the new covenant confirmed by His blood.
It is not in keeping the commandments, which no one can fully keep as the Bible tells us many times, and the commandments judge all who cannot keep them. Yet here you are again, promoting your unbiblical salvic plan and you have the nerve to say you follow Christ.
What you believe and post are nothing short of veiled mistruths that do not align with scripture.
Hint! Hint!! What is inside the ark of the Covenant? what is Outside the ark of the Covenant?
I have written nothing about you. I have detailed and contested your interpretation of scripture. This is not personal so do not try and make it personal. That would be a mistake on your part.
SHOW ME THE verses that prove your point! it is the only way you will get a reply.
Hint hint. The commandments are not choices and you cannot obey them with or without Christ which is why he died in your place.
I noticed how you have switched to distractions and little games to take the heat off. It's not working
Maybe if you quit ignoring all the many scriptures I and others have posted, you will have all the points you say you need. Until then, it is useless to act like we have not constantly demonstrated from scripture how you have derailed the truth.
This is really particularly nasty on your part since I have gone over and over that very thing many times.
That, makes you a perveyor of false information since you have been well provided with the truth. Thing is, it is scripture you are refuting, not me.
You did write:
So you're saying that one of the marks of a true Christian is obedience to God's word. That's what @vassal is saying as well, but with greater detail of course.
You're actually agreeing with each other. I don't understand what is your problem then??
The problem with wanting to point to the Ark of the Covenant, is that it is Old Testament covenant made with the Israelites and not with believers of the New Covenant in Christ. Of course, and has been said many times by Christians on this site and in response to vassal, the commandments are all valid but they are impossible to keep as God demands. That, is why Jesus is the fullfillment of the law. He never sinned and because of His punishment on our behalf, God's wrath at sin is satisfied.
If we are IN Christ (not on the outside holding onto the law and ignoring all scripture that details what actual salvation is) then we are justified at the moment of our salvation. We are to 'walk in the Spirit' meaning to be led by the Spirit of God and not focus on the commandments that are not applicable for salvation; not a part of salvation, but are valid in regards to illustrating the holiness of God and reminding us of how much we are to be thankful to God for providing a way out of our sin predicament. This is called sanctification and is an ongoing process throughout our lives
It is more than absurd to keep insisting the 10 commandments are the covenant. That is a lie that is not found in scripture. Jesus shed blood alone has provided restitution because he alone lived a sinless life. The OT sacrificial system was never able to forgive sin, animal blood does not make restitution for people and animals suffer alike in this sinful world. Thanks
The writer of Hebrews instructs believers to have boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus (Hebrews 10:19).2 Based on a personal relationship with Jesus Christ as God and Savior, the Christian can enter into the very presence of God through the blood of Jesus Christ. Christ ever liveth to make intercession (Hebrews 7:25) for those trusting in His payment of a debt that, as sinners, they could never pay. Therefore, those who are being sanctified3 through the blood of Jesus have immediate access into the presence of God because Christ appears in the presence of God for us (Hebrews 9:12–14, 24).
The basis for the intercession is due to Christ being the propitiation (satisfaction) for sinners. He intercedes by means of His once-for-all bloody sacrifice upon Calvary’s cross. The blood that was shed in His voluntary death is the basis by which He cried, It is finished (John 19:30) and the basis for reconciliation with God.
It is because He is the actual mercy seat, or place of propitiation, that Jesus Christ entered the heavenlies to take up His rightful position as Lord over all. His office as the believer’s High Priest is not due to His shed blood being preserved somewhere in heaven or even offered upon the heavenly mercy seat. Rather the sufficiency of His shed blood on Calvary’s cross, as the sinners’ substitute, is the means by which He entered heaven and the means by which believers can also boldly enter the eternal presence of God having been sanctified by grace through faith in the merits of the death of Jesus (Hebrews 10:19–22).
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If we are IN Christ (not on the outside holding onto the law and ignoring all scripture that details what actual salvation is) then we are justified at the moment of our salvation. We are to 'walk in the Spirit' meaning to be led by the Spirit of God and not focus on the commandments that are not applicable for salvation; not a part of salvation, but are valid in regards to illustrating the holiness of God and reminding us of how much we are to be thankful to God for providing a way out of our sin predicament. This is called sanctification and is an ongoing process throughout our lives
It is more than absurd to keep insisting the 10 commandments are the covenant. That is a lie that is not found in scripture. Jesus shed blood alone has provided restitution because he alone lived a sinless life. The OT sacrificial system was never able to forgive sin, animal blood does not make restitution for people and animals suffer alike in this sinful world. Thanks
The writer of Hebrews instructs believers to have boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus (Hebrews 10:19).2 Based on a personal relationship with Jesus Christ as God and Savior, the Christian can enter into the very presence of God through the blood of Jesus Christ. Christ ever liveth to make intercession (Hebrews 7:25) for those trusting in His payment of a debt that, as sinners, they could never pay. Therefore, those who are being sanctified3 through the blood of Jesus have immediate access into the presence of God because Christ appears in the presence of God for us (Hebrews 9:12–14, 24).
The basis for the intercession is due to Christ being the propitiation (satisfaction) for sinners. He intercedes by means of His once-for-all bloody sacrifice upon Calvary’s cross. The blood that was shed in His voluntary death is the basis by which He cried, It is finished (John 19:30) and the basis for reconciliation with God.
It is because He is the actual mercy seat, or place of propitiation, that Jesus Christ entered the heavenlies to take up His rightful position as Lord over all. His office as the believer’s High Priest is not due to His shed blood being preserved somewhere in heaven or even offered upon the heavenly mercy seat. Rather the sufficiency of His shed blood on Calvary’s cross, as the sinners’ substitute, is the means by which He entered heaven and the means by which believers can also boldly enter the eternal presence of God having been sanctified by grace through faith in the merits of the death of Jesus (Hebrews 10:19–22).
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