Yes, she lost her whole family in the Holocaust. Clearly she did Christmas plays, had a Christmas tree and had peanut butter fudge. Cost her her entire family but the fudge was worth it.
Soon it will be Christmas Day!
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Yes, she lost her whole family in the Holocaust. Clearly she did Christmas plays, had a Christmas tree and had peanut butter fudge. Cost her her entire family but the fudge was worth it.
You did warn me, and on the first page. But did I listen? No. Now we're 4 pages deep and I don't think another 40 would change anything. Next time I need to listen to your sage advice. You can say it, "I told you so".
I read the Gideon bible that was placed in my dresser in my room in downtown LA when I was traveling when I was 17 years old in 1972. I found it very comforting and uplifting.
LA can be a very scary place for a young man who is traveling alone and the bible helped to calm my fears. The 8 days a spent there proved to be uneventfull as far a bad stuff happening. Thank God.
Are you equating a Christmas tree with celebrating the birth of the Lord Jesus?!
I was honored to work with the Gideon's a couple times. They really were wonderful folk and they do a great outreach.
Primary Christian Symbolism:
- Light in darkness - Christ's birth bringing hope to the world
- Eternal life - Evergreen branches representing everlasting life
- The Tree of Life - Connection to the Garden of Eden and paradise
- Triumph over sin - Transformation from darkness to light
There is a basic principle and that is you don't base a doctrine on types and shadows because you can make a picture say anything. First you begin with a clear word, then the types and shadows can help illustrate the doctrine.
There needs to be a clear word in which the New Testament points to the use of a Christmas tree as part of our worship of Jesus' incarnation. There is none. Now if this tree is simply a way in which you decorate your house, we would not be 68 posts about this. You have said that this tree is part of your worship of Jesus' incarnation. Yet you have no Biblical basis to say that.
If we were to use this as a Biblical basis then the tree lighting ceremony at Rockefeller center and at the Whitehouse would be ceremonies worshipping the incarnated Jesus, and they simply are not.
I won't say it because sometimes it's just fun. You know there is no profit in it, but it's just fun anyway.
They get around all that by calling it "warning people about the danger!"
Are you also equating putting up a Christmas tree in your house to worshipping the Lord for His incarnation?!
This is scary, people say "nothing wrong" and "Its just a Christmas tree" but when you dig a little deeper it is clear it is part of idol worship. The Bible is crystal clear in the ten commandments not to do this, but they don't care, ignore what the Bible says.
Great, where's the clear word on having a pulpit? Where's the clear word on Sunday school? Where's the clear word on clever signs that cost 10 grand outside that people see as they drive by? Where's the clear word on the KJV only Bible? Where's the clear word on communion with formalized services with certain people serving the elements? Or formal membership, choirs, worship leaders and teams. Do you wear a wedding band, did you say wedding vows? I think the point is made.
Oh, sorry, I didn't see your post, I busy talking to my Christmas tree and bowing down to it. I was going to offer it a sacrifice but all I have is a pound of Walmart hamburger. You think that'll work??
The clear word on how to meet is in 1 Corinthians 14. Very few churches follow those instructions. According to Paul whenever we come together each one has, that is definitely not true in Christianity. They turn the believers into spectators, it is the clergy / Laity system which many understand to be what Jesus was referring to when He said He hates the deeds of the nicolaitans (the define this word to mean those who climb above the laity).
We are commanded to teach our children in numerous places, to teach them especially about the key events in the Bible. One of the ten commandments is the first commandment that comes with a promise, that if you honor the teachings of your father and mother you will live long and do well in life. In the Bible we are all brothers and sisters and part of the house of God. So this word "father and mother" would not simply refer to your birth parents but to the church as the mother of us all.
It would depend on what it says. It could be the word about having to give account for every idle word that we speak. Or it could be about publishing and proclaiming the name of Jesus. You need to be more specific about what was actually on the sign.
KJV only Bible is a relatively new doctrine that arose when they discovered remarkable numerical facts about the KJV that are not true of other versions.
I don't teach this doctrine, but at the same time I would be very concerned with any doctrine being taught that contradicts the word of God as found in the KJV. There are other versions: Darby and 1901 ASV that I have used without any issue. However, I have seen one version that has changed the Old Testament to make it look like abortion is part of the law of Moses. The Mormons have their Bible to justify their doctrines and the JW's have their version to justify their doctrines. So the idea that Satan would twist and change the word of God to push lies is well established.
The clear word on how to have communion is in the book of 1 Corinthians chapters 10 and 11. I don't understand your question about formalized service with certain people serving the elements.
Denominations used to have requirements that you be a formal member of their denomination before you could take communion with them. That is not scriptural and most churches have abolished that. The only requirement for communion is that you be a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ as redeemer and savior.
1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1 give us the requirements for an elder and a deacon. A deacon is someone who would be a leader of the choir or worship leader or some other ministry or team.
If the point is that we can use the Bible to determine how these various things should be done then yes, the point is made.
That is because when Stephen condemned the Israelites for the idolatry of carrying the star of Remphan you don't understand that as the star on top of the Christmas tree. What you really mean is that your interpretation of the Bible does not say anything about a Christmas tree. It is also because when the Bible says no graven images of the the things in the heavens including angels you don't intepret that to include the angel people hang on the Christmas tree. When Jesus warned to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees you don't interpret that to include a reference to the human tradition of the Christmas tree. When I ask you to look at the fruit from your religious practices you refuse to do so because it reveals they are waterless clouds, trees without fruit, and you can even see that the churches that have practiced these things have withered up from the roots.
The Bible does talk about this, you simply refuse to accept it.
Also I was not the one who said it was worshipped, you were the one who equated celebrating Jesus' birth with a Christmas tree. To celebrate Jesus' birth is worship.
Love these pagan holiday threads! This one is certainly off to a good start.
Yeah, decorate the Christmas tree, whether real or plastic, decorate it with some bulbs, put an angel on top, string some lights, nativity scene on the bottom, plug it in, and say "Let there be light".
And it was good.
Yeah, decorate the Christmas tree, whether real or plastic, decorate it with some bulbs, put an angel on top, string some lights, nativity scene on the bottom, plug it in, and say "Let there be light".
And it was good.
again I like you passion brother.
you seem to want people to know the truth, and if they observe the truth they will have a better walk with G-D.
brother your passion may have to be examined.. 1st let me take the log out of my eye, before I try and remove the speck out of yours.
you said
"Lord, Lord, didn't I help produce the Christmas play for the last 20 years?" and have the Lord say "depart from me worker of iniquity, I never knew you".
like the other brother commented surely you would not say that producing a Christmas play is being a worker of iniquity? that is how you make it sound in my mind here. perhaps you mis spoke?
that is a very serious scripture, and I am glad your passionate about it. I think you have made some strong points, perhaps the Christmas play has fallen as the weakest link in you argument.
again I like your passion, do not for get to love brother, not saying your not, just we must not forget, stay strong in JESUS, thanks for answering.
in love & peace
Bruce