A shared Truth of 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2:3
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Thank YOU, Sister!Hello , I'm genuinely interested in knowing more about the 7th day adventists and their beliefs . Whenever u have the time , could u please summerize them ? I'm particularly interested in any beliefs that r very much different to main stream Christianity . Please b assured , I'm not looking for an argumentI'm genuinely interested . Thank you .
I’m finally finding someone, that by your attitude of unprejudiced searching, you haven’t settled into a self-righteousness attitude and are still looking for and finding Jesus, by God’s Grace and the power of His Holy Spirit, thru your Faith.
Roman 1:17
“For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”
Praise God, Sister !
Our self-righteousness, selfishness (anti-love) leads to; ~~> “ … all that is in the world ( selfishness) —the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of Satan, the lord of this world. 1 John 2:16
Which is why we have the propensity & prejudice to be the “natural man”, (1 Corinthians 2:14), being our carnal nature rather than the nature of Christ, and His Righteousness, which is LOVE .. Yay! ALL day !! for LOVE !! Hallelujah !!
It seems that God’s Spirit is leading you to question the status quo of the worlds religious communities and looking to take a “path less traveled”. ~~> “... for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Matthew 7:13
I have a T-shirt I like to wear, with a bunch of little fishes, all the same color, all going in the same direction, except for one little fish, different color, going in the opposite direction. Which I understand is how Jesus was, when standing in the Jewish synagog, talking to the ( self-righteous) pharisees. Much like, when here in this CC Forum, I say:
“For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 5:20
I sometimes hear the “gnashing of teeth” when telling of the Truth / Jesus
Okay sister .. now to your question
~~> Who are Adventist and their beliefs; ... "Part #1"Will hafta wait till Sabbath tomorrow, when I will have sometime ... Till then ... Blessings Sister
Thank YOU, Sister!
I’m finally finding someone, that by your attitude of unprejudiced searching, you haven’t settled into a self-righteousness attitude and are still looking for and finding Jesus, by God’s Grace and the power of His Holy Spirit, thru your Faith.
Roman 1:17
“For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”
Praise God, Sister !
Our self-righteousness, selfishness (anti-love) leads to; ~~> “ … all that is in the world ( selfishness) —the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of Satan, the lord of this world. 1 John 2:16
Which is why we have the propensity & prejudice to be the “natural man”, (1 Corinthians 2:14), being our carnal nature rather than the nature of Christ, and His Righteousness, which is LOVE .. Yay! ALL day !! for LOVE !! Hallelujah !!
It seems that God’s Spirit is leading you to question the status quo of the worlds religious communities and looking to take a “path less traveled”. ~~> “... for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Matthew 7:13
I have a T-shirt I like to wear, with a bunch of little fishes, all the same color, all going in the same direction, except for one little fish, different color, going in the opposite direction. Which I understand is how Jesus was, when standing in the Jewish synagog, talking to the ( self-righteous) pharisees. Much like, when here in this CC Forum, I say:
“For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 5:20
I sometimes hear the “gnashing of teeth” when telling of the Truth / Jesus
Okay sister .. now to your question
Will hafta wait till Sabbath tomorrow, when I will have sometime ... Till then ... Blessings Sister
U r a tease ! Looking forward .
I'm implying, that anyone who does not "Follow & Believe" Jesus, by Faith, & yet calling themselves Christian... are being fooled by the Roman Catholic Church. ( anti-Jesus ); Revelation 12:17 ...
"And the dragon (Satan) was wroth with the woman ( God's people ), and went to make war ( by Satan's RCC agency ) with the remnant of her seed, ( those of us ), which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."
Satan has fooled us ALL ( our carnal, sinful nature ) into believing that we do NOT have to OBEY God, nor having the"testimony of Jesus" and yet we believe we will be saved, (falsely, presumptuously, PRIDEFULLY ) calling ourselves Christians and Children of God, believing this same message of LIEs, deception &"fooling", that came outta Satan's mouth in the Garden of Eden ) in Gen 3.
~~~> Have a Blessed, Rest in Our Lord, This His Sabbath, ... ALL Y'all <~~~
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The "Testimony of Jesus" and the "Spirit of Prophecy" are two key concepts , mentioned in the Bible, that are foundational beliefs of the .... 7th Day Adventists movement. Which most all Christian denominations, don't understand, & don't want to understand or believe, as it promotes "obedience to God", which differs SO MUCH from their "Dispensational" religious belief system.
The following is an explanation for your understanding ;
1. The "Testimony of Jesus" in Revelation 12:17:
The phrase "Testimony of Jesus" is found in Revelation 12:17, which says:
"And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Revelation 12:17, KJV
This verse describes a cosmic battle between the forces of good and evil, with the dragon (Satan) making war against the "remnant" — the faithful followers of God who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.In Seventh-day Adventist theology, the "Testimony of Jesus" is understood to refer to Jesus Christ's message, teachings, and witness. It represents the prophetic message that points to the life, ministry, death, and resurrection of Jesus, and the call to faithfully follow Him. The "remnant" in this passage refers to those who hold onto this testimony, representing those who continue to live in accordance with God's commandments while remaining faithful to the message and mission of Jesus.
2. The "Spirit of Prophecy":
The term "Spirit of Prophecy" is mentioned in Revelation 19:10, which says:
"And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." (Revelation 19:10, KJV)
This verse links the "Testimony of Jesus" with the "spirit of prophecy", which is understood to mean the divine inspiration and gift of prophecy that is given to individuals who are faithful to God's message. In the context of the Bible and Ellen White's writings, the "spirit of prophecy" is the inspired revelation of God's will, often conveyed through prophets who speak on His behalf.3. The "Testimony of Jesus" and "Spirit of Prophecy" in the Writings of Ellen White:
Ellen White, one of the pioneers of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, claimed to have received the gift of prophecy and was regarded by her followers as a prophetess. She wrote extensively on the "Testimony of Jesus" and the "Spirit of Prophecy", linking these concepts to her own prophetic experiences and messages.
- Testimony of Jesus: For Ellen White, the Testimony of Jesus was a central part of her ministry. It was not just about speaking for Jesus, but also about pointing to Him as the Savior and living according to His teachings. This testimony was a witness to Jesus' life, His work, and the eternal salvation He offers. The testimony was about the gospel message that should be shared with the world. It involved calling people to obedience to God’s commandments, particularly the Seventh-day Sabbath, which the Adventist movement places great emphasis on.
- Spirit of Prophecy: In Ellen White's context, the "Spirit of Prophecy" was the divine inspiration and spiritual insight that she claimed to have received directly from God. Ellen White referred to this as the power that guided her visions, dreams, and written works. She believed that the Spirit of Prophecy was the means by which God communicated with His people in the last days. Her prophetic role was viewed as continuing the work of the prophets in the Bible, especially in leading God's people to deeper spiritual understanding and preparing them for Christ's second coming.
4. The Testimony of Jesus and the Remnant:
In Revelation 12:17, it is significant that the "remnant" who keep the commandments of God also have the testimony of Jesus. Adventists believe that this remnant is a distinct group of people in the last days who maintain the faith that was once delivered to the saints. The Testimony of Jesus and the Spirit of Prophecy are seen as gifts to guide this remnant in their mission to be faithful witnesses for Christ.
The Adventist pioneers and we Adventists NOW, view her writings as a part of this prophetic testimony — messages that are not equal to Scripture, but are understood as an extension of the prophetic ministry in these last days. This ministry, points back to Scripture, (harmonizing with
), and affirming the Bible’s teachings and emphasizing the call to righteousness, faith, and obedience.Conclusion:
- The "Testimony of Jesus" in Revelation 12:17 refers to the message and witness of Jesus Christ, specifically the call to live according to His commandments and to follow Him in faith.
- The "Spirit of Prophecy" in Revelation 19:10 refers to the divine inspiration that enables individuals to give a prophetic witness to God's will, including the gift of prophecy given to the many leaders, like Ellen White. For Adventists, this is understood as the continued ministry of prophecy in the last days, culminating in the preparation for Christ's return.
Blessed, & A Happy Sabbath Sister
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Thank you so much , I'm going to have a look at Ellen White's writingsThe "Testimony of Jesus" and the "Spirit of Prophecy" are two key concepts , mentioned in the Bible, that are foundational beliefs of the .... 7th Day Adventists movement. Which most all Christian denominations, don't understand, & don't want to understand or believe, as it promotes "obedience to God", which differs SO MUCH from their "Dispensational" religious belief system.
The following is an explanation for your understanding ;
1. The "Testimony of Jesus" in Revelation 12:17:
The phrase "Testimony of Jesus" is found in Revelation 12:17, which says:
"And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Revelation 12:17, KJVThis verse describes a cosmic battle between the forces of good and evil, with the dragon (Satan) making war against the "remnant" — the faithful followers of God who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
In Seventh-day Adventist theology, the "Testimony of Jesus" is understood to refer to Jesus Christ's message, teachings, and witness. It represents the prophetic message that points to the life, ministry, death, and resurrection of Jesus, and the call to faithfully follow Him. The "remnant" in this passage refers to those who hold onto this testimony, representing those who continue to live in accordance with God's commandments while remaining faithful to the message and mission of Jesus.
2. The "Spirit of Prophecy":
The term "Spirit of Prophecy" is mentioned in Revelation 19:10, which says:
"And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." (Revelation 19:10, KJV)This verse links the "Testimony of Jesus" with the "spirit of prophecy", which is understood to mean the divine inspiration and gift of prophecy that is given to individuals who are faithful to God's message. In the context of the Bible and Ellen White's writings, the "spirit of prophecy" is the inspired revelation of God's will, often conveyed through prophets who speak on His behalf.
3. The "Testimony of Jesus" and "Spirit of Prophecy" in the Writings of Ellen White:
Ellen White, one of the pioneers of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, claimed to have received the gift of prophecy and was regarded by her followers as a prophetess. She wrote extensively on the "Testimony of Jesus" and the "Spirit of Prophecy", linking these concepts to her own prophetic experiences and messages.
In Revelation 19:10, where it says, “the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy,” Ellen White affirms that the Spirit of Prophecy is not just about predicting future events, but also about revealing the character and message of Jesus Christ, guiding believers to live faithful and obedient lives.
- Testimony of Jesus: For Ellen White, the Testimony of Jesus was a central part of her ministry. It was not just about speaking for Jesus, but also about pointing to Him as the Savior and living according to His teachings. This testimony was a witness to Jesus' life, His work, and the eternal salvation He offers. The testimony was about the gospel message that should be shared with the world. It involved calling people to obedience to God’s commandments, particularly the Seventh-day Sabbath, which the Adventist movement places great emphasis on.
- Spirit of Prophecy: In Ellen White's context, the "Spirit of Prophecy" was the divine inspiration and spiritual insight that she claimed to have received directly from God. Ellen White referred to this as the power that guided her visions, dreams, and written works. She believed that the Spirit of Prophecy was the means by which God communicated with His people in the last days. Her prophetic role was viewed as continuing the work of the prophets in the Bible, especially in leading God's people to deeper spiritual understanding and preparing them for Christ's second coming.
4. The Testimony of Jesus and the Remnant:
In Revelation 12:17, it is significant that the "remnant" who keep the commandments of God also have the testimony of Jesus. Adventists believe that this remnant is a distinct group of people in the last days who maintain the faith that was once delivered to the saints. The Testimony of Jesus and the Spirit of Prophecy are seen as gifts to guide this remnant in their mission to be faithful witnesses for Christ.
The Adventist pioneers and we Adventists NOW, view her writings as a part of this prophetic testimony — messages that are not equal to Scripture, but are understood as an extension of the prophetic ministry in these last days. This ministry, points back to Scripture, (harmonizing with
Conclusion:
For we Adventist, the Testimony of Jesus and the Spirit of Prophecy are deeply intertwined, pointing to the continuation of prophetic revelation in the church, guiding believers to faithfulness in anticipation of the second coming of Christ. " Maranatha ! " &
- The "Testimony of Jesus" in Revelation 12:17 refers to the message and witness of Jesus Christ, specifically the call to live according to His commandments and to follow Him in faith.
- The "Spirit of Prophecy" in Revelation 19:10 refers to the divine inspiration that enables individuals to give a prophetic witness to God's will, including the gift of prophecy given to the many leaders, like Ellen White. For Adventists, this is understood as the continued ministry of prophecy in the last days, culminating in the preparation for Christ's return.
Blessed, & A Happy Sabbath Sister
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Thank you for your interest ..Thank you so much , I'm going to have a look at Ellen White's writings
I would recommend, "The Great Controversy" or "Steps to Christ".
These two are my second favorite books of all time, and I've read A LOT ...
You can find an Adventist or visit ANY SDA Church and they will be happy to GIVE you both ...
Blessings
( ever have anyother questions concerning anything .. just ask
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simple grammar, not semantics.
you shouldn't say there's no such thing without doing 5 seconds of fact checking, dude. it ruins your reputation, and a man's reputation is worth more than all the cash in the world.
only God writes like this.
That's how we know it is scripture.
do you seriously not know what the Bible is?
that view utterly fails to account for Christ specifically calling the individual man Judas the son of perdition.
Judas was not a pope. he was an apostle. and he is a specific individual man, not a 'system' of bishopric.
... also it's not an accurate statement to say 'the protestant reformers' said this. there were a LOT of reformers and a lot of various views during that time of segregation from Rome.
BTW Christians celebrated the resurrection of Christ on sundays long before there was any such thing as bishops much less a papacy.
if that's true than Christ was also blasphemous beyond measure and considered Himself exalted above God by claiming to be God's representative on earth.
if there was no papacy before 598 how is it your teachers argue Constantine ((not a pope)) changed the sabbath in the 300s ((he didn't)) but attribute that to papacy?
Jesus called Judas Iscariot ((also not a pope)) the son of perdition.
what you have been indoctrinated into completely ignores that.
the Greek grammar leaves no room to interpret the Son of perdition as anything other than a distinct individual in both of the exactly two places the title is mentioned in scripture.
but fools hate knowledge,
and love their simplicity
- some ((distinct, individual)) guy named Solomon
i feel like it's a bit of a hallmark of anyone in this group, that they do not fail to understand that God wrote the Bible.
Thank you so much , I'm going to have a look at Ellen White's writings
be sure and keep Collosians 3 in mind while you do
