Did it happen literally and physically?
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Well, some scientists are atheists, but some are Christians, who believe God created mankind using evolution as the method. They are called theistic evolutionists or evolutionary creationists. They believe that God used the evolutionary process as the means to create and diversify life. They believe that science and faith are not in conflict and that God can work through natural processes. They view the creation account in Genesis as a theological parable. The many Christians who have supported this view include Francis Collins, Tim Keller, Karl Barth, John Stott, John Glenn, Alister McGrath, P.T. de Chardin, Asa Gray and C.S. Lewis.
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Watch the movie Noah with Russell Crow, it'll give you some ideas. The writers took some big liberties with the biblical text, but that's why God gave us a bible and a brain. Its a good flick regardless.
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Aside from Matthew 24:37-39 as a supporting verse that the story of Noah happened spiritually.
When I read below God's words, I have a strongly believe that what happened in the time of Noah is not literal but spiritual.
If we read below verses with using man's intellect it seems that God made a mistake. But we all know that God never made a mistake.
Because God is Holy & Perfect ( 1 Peter 1:16 & Matthew 5:48)
GENESIS 6:6-7
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
GENESIS 9:15-17
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.
MATTHEW 5:48
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
1 PETER 1:16
16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
Your reasoning is deeply flawed here. This verse reinforces the fact that it happened literally. If the Noahite flood happened only spiritually, then there were no "days of Noah" to which Jesus could refer.
Again, none of this suggests that the events were "only" spiritual (whatever that is supposed to mean). Try reading these verses in a modern translation to get a modern understanding of the concepts instead of a 500-year-old version.
"The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled." (NASB95)
That doesn't impinge on God's perfection. As you said, "If we read below verses with using man's intellect"; God's perfection is not what human intellect accounts it to be.
Now I understand.
By believing God the Father that he is Speaking in Parables (Psalms 78:2 & Ezekiel 20:49)
What happened in the time of Noah is in spiritual.
By taking it in literal physical, there is no message at all. It is just a plain story that already happened and it is not happening again.
MATTHEW 24:37-39
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
By taking it happened spiritually, God the Father will reveal the meaning of eating & drinking, marrying and giving marriage spiritually. And it will reveal that it is happening spiritually in our generation.
In that case we can avoid to do the same things.
Eating & drinking, marrying & giving in marriage there is nothing wrong in literal physical. But in spiritual is a sin against God
God never regret that he made human being that result a deeply heart trouble.
Because God the Father has the foreknowledge or he already know from the very beginning and what will happen until the end of the world.
Contradicting Scripture isn’t a good strategy for learning Scripture.
And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.”
Genesis 6:4, 6 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gen.6.4-6.KJV
No, you don’t. This is not a parable.
You are missing the point completely. Jesus treats it as a literal, historical event. Otherwise, His warning makes no sense.
Jesus’ words are not about this happening spiritually today. Rather, He is saying that the day of His coming will be normal, with people doing normal things up until the last moment. The problem is not with the habits and actions, but with the ignorance of God and His workings in their lives.
Dead wrong. There is nothing sinful about eating, drinking, and marrying. God designed us to eat, drinking, and marry. Your stubborn insistence on treating all of Scripture as parables is leading you off the deep end into error.
The clearly understanding of man in God regretted when he created man is a contradiction that God has the foreknowledge.
God the Father never repented on his decision because his decision is Perfect.
MATTHEW 5:48
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
It means the clearly understanding of man in the word repented is not applicable.
Because God is speaking in Parables. He is not speaking clearly but a dark saying.
PSALMS 78:2
2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:
EZEKIEL 20:49
49 Then said I, Ah Lord God! they say of me, Doth he not speak parables?
That's not even a meaningful sentence. "Clearly" is an adverb; it modifies either a verb or an adjective. "Clear" is an adjective and is used to modify a noun.
The problem here is your lack of understanding about Scripture in general, and about the concept of "perfect" in particular.
No, He is not.
It is really foolish of you to persist in your belief that all of Scripture is parables. It has clouded your mind and closed you to right understanding.
No, He is not.
Who is saying the truth?
God the Father who said he is Speaking in Parables (Psalms 78:2 & Ezekiel 20:49) or it is you who is contradicting his words and saying God is not speaking in parables?
It is really foolish of you to persist in your belief that all of Scripture is parables. It has clouded your mind and closed you to right understanding
Who is really foolish in the eyes of God?
Those people who believe that when God the Father open his mouth in a parable and utter dark saying of old and never said he is speaking in parables and utter of dark saying SOMETIMES only?
Or you who is contradicting God's words again?
There is a bible character in the Holy Bible who counterfeit God's words and he has an angels. He was cast in the earth and he is here with us.
His angels are the false Prophets & Teachers who are teaching contradiction in the words of God.
GENESIS 2:17
17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”
GENESIS 3:4
4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
REVELATION 12:9
9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
Where in Scripture does it say that EVERYTHING God says is a parable? Nowhere! Rather, most of Scripture is plain text. Yes, there are parables. Most of Psalm 78 is parable. Much of what Jesus says in public is parables, but what He says to His disciples in private is not parables. Most of the New Testament and almost all of the Old Testament are not parables.
Think about it in logical terms: if everything God says is a parable, then even the statement, "God is speaking in parables" is itself a parable. That's silly.
This is the true test of God to the people if they humble themselves.
God used the words of man and very clear to understanding of man but the meaning is different.
This is what Jesus demonstrated in the temple.
It is very clear to a man what a temple is. It is a literal physical temple
JOHN 2:19-20
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
But to Jesus temple meaning is his body.
JOHN 2:21
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.