Yes it is. Salvation is equal privilege and equal opportunity for ALL.
It is not just for you or me..........It is for EVERYONE.
A humble person will recognize this. A proud person will deny it.
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Yes it is. Salvation is equal privilege and equal opportunity for ALL.
It is not just for you or me..........It is for EVERYONE.
A humble person will recognize this. A proud person will deny it.
Then why the ELECT? Why does God say "I have reserved for myself"? Do you believe that the non-ELECT also get saved?
BELIEVERS get saved. ALL believers are elected for service/reign/blessings/rewards/sanctification ect. Simple.
Anybody can go online and check it out for themselves.
Pelagianism is a theological view that denies original sin, total depravity,
and predestination, and emphasizes human free will and good works.
No one here is denying original sin, nor that we did not inherit depravity from the fall of Adam.
And, no one is emphasizing that we naturally have free will.
It is God's grace that controls our depravity of the flesh, that makes a soul enabled to be freed to use his will.
What they DENY is the fact that God offers this to ALL.......Not just the special calvies.
The elect are those whom God knows by means of his omniscience, who will believe.
Knowing all people who will believe throughout all human history allows God to elect certain ones for a special purpose in God's plan for humanity at a certain time in history.
For example....
God elected you to be born and living (predestined) at this time in history as to enter you into the body of Christ.
The likes of Job and King David? They were not elected to be a part of the Bride of Christ. Only the Church was.
God offers to all, knowing full well that not all will believe.
For when they are burning in the Lake of Fire, no one will accuse God of showing favoritism.
So much so. He even died for the sins of those who will burn forever.
That is why no one's sins will be mentioned at the final judgment.
Instead, they will be judged according to their works, which will be shown to fall short of the perfect righteousness God requires of those who will enter eternity to be with God forever.
I also saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne,
and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life,
and the dead were judged according to their works by what was written in the books. "
Revelation 20:12
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I took notice. You wanted me to conform to your human-good standards that would have sacrificed truth in the name of having everyone get along because truth was to be compromised.
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. Matthew 10:34-36
You would have demanded that everyone act nice and stop defending what is the truth in the face of it being resisted.
God rejects human good. Liberals do not.
Free willers are a special class. They choose to elect themselves.
They believe themselves to be so special they were able to do in the flesh what Jesus said was impossible.
yep we spoke of the dual complexity,
Adam and eve when created had dual complexity, they had the fathers will in them to believe and a choice to accept, by freedom of thought , (not free will)
They chose wrongly, and afterwards mans own choice became corrupted and free will was then born in man, it became the law of sin.
It's. Funny thing.
You haven't commented on the sermons posted to you, preached by true believers who are also affiliated with calvins teachings.
Instead you chose to carry on in your dogma,
This only shows how incoherent you are.
My Thoughts are you not your thoughts, in a family the word rightly divided should unite a family. Jesus is saying in many families it does, and in the family where there taught how to share there thoughts, and taught how to stand against temptation of every kind . There safe, and if your in a family where a mature person has learned all of the teachings of Jesus, your safe,
Secondly my assessment of you is you haven't just stuck the knife in, in this thread you've stuck it in and then twisted it to the people you have attacked.
You should include them all
Omniscient, having all knowledge of past present and future
Omnipotent. Having unlimited power
Omnipresent means God is everywhere at the same time including is inherent will in you before being saved and after
Omnibenevolent, having unlimited Goodness.
The church was elected to be grown in numbers before the foundations of the world
God chose his church before the foundations of the world by his will that would be inherent to everyone
Which means in his will, it was willed his inherent will, will be in everyone and remain in anyone who would believe by his will in you.
Fixed it for you
you may want to include revalatiion 3.5 first which suggests all names are in the book of life until blotted out by his will.
So to answer your statement, believers are made alive in Christ by his will, and not dead as in spiritualy dead.
The works they will be judged by are the works they where made alive in Christ to do.
The dead as in the spiritualy dead who fell asleep not alive in Christ, they will be Judged by there deeds only.
The spiritualy alive in Christ go to a different realm than those who are not spiritualy alive.
Fixed it for you
Gods will, is eternal and Gods will states in his holy word he is life to those who are perishing and those who are living.
And his will here says exactly that , which is all names are in the book of life until blotted out
Revelation 3:5
New King James Version
5 He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.
And his will here says exactly that , which is all names are in the book of life until blotted out
Revelation 3:5
New King James Version
5 He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.
Yes, spiritually dead.
God gives spiritual life to those spiritually dead otherwise they wouldn't need to be given it.
Those who are not spiritually dead do not have to be made born again.
There are only two states in the spiritual not three: dead or alive
[Rom 6:13 KJV] 13 Neither yield ye your members [as] instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members [as] instruments of righteousness unto God.
[Rom 11:15 KJV] 15 For if the casting away of them [be] the reconciling of the world, what [shall] the receiving [of them be], but life from the dead?
[Eph 2:1 KJV] 1 And you [hath he quickened], who were dead in trespasses and sins;
[Col 2:13 KJV] 13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
[Jhn 3:3, 7 KJV]
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. ...
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
[1Pe 1:23 KJV] 23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
The truth about his will is it's inherent to everyone, and his will is eternal. And there nothing anyone to do to change his will, which is he is God and life to all people whether there perishing or living.
Whoever thinks they can change his will is wrong, they can't,
So when Gods say anyone who does my will will not be blotted out of the lambs book of life, that means everyone has his inherent will and all names are still his breath of life in them, which means everyone is his book of life are known to him as his breath of life, whether living or perishing all names are his breath of life
And whilst the people will believe what they like there's no undoing his will that is in you.
Whoever thinks they can change his will is wrong, they can't,
So when Gods say anyone who does my will will not be blotted out of the lambs book of life, that means everyone has his inherent will and all names are still his breath of life in them, which means everyone is his book of life are known to him as his breath of life, whether living or perishing
all names are his breath of life And whilst the people will believe what they like there's no undoing his will that is in you.
yep you've missed understood what I said, no matter
Those who are made alive in Christ go to different realm,.when passing away