maybe he thought out with the old now and in with the new , as in not putting up with the old anymore
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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I know he was quite upset with some of what the perverts were saying...maybe he thought out with the old now and in with the new , as in not putting up with the old anymore
Hopefully he will come back again.
Some of the naysayers are so heartless they even laugh at people for wanting to restrain themselves from saying the nasty sorts of things that they do.
Man has a real problem when it comes to fully understanding the ways of God.
In other words:
If God's love is for His elect only – then some say that simply would not be fair.
If Christ died and was raised to provide salvation for His elect only – then some say that simply would not be fair.
If He decreed that sin should enter the world and that all would sin – then some say He must be the cause for our sin.
Yet Scripture tells us:
From the very beginning
Gen 1:1
Dan 4:35
Isa 55:8
Rom 8:31
Rom 9:15
Rom 9:21
All Heaven rejoices with each sinner that is saved. . . .
In other words:
If God's love is for His elect only – then some say that simply would not be fair.
If Christ died and was raised to provide salvation for His elect only – then some say that simply would not be fair.
If He decreed that sin should enter the world and that all would sin – then some say He must be the cause for our sin.
Yet Scripture tells us:
From the very beginning
Gen 1:1
Dan 4:35
Isa 55:8
Rom 8:31
Rom 9:15
Rom 9:21
All Heaven rejoices with each sinner that is saved. . . .
Yes we know that verses must be pulled out of context to support the "system."
Ex 20:5-6
5 You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.
ESV
Ps 32:10
10 Many are the woes of the wicked,
but the LORD's unfailing love
surrounds the man who trusts in him.
NIV
Ps 86:5
5 You are forgiving and good, O Lord,
abounding in love to all who call to you
NIV
Ps 103:11, 17-18
11 For as high as the heavens are above the earth,
so great is his love for those who fear him...17 But from everlasting to everlasting
the LORD's love is with those who fear him,
and his righteousness with their children's children —
18 with those who keep his covenant
and remember to obey his precepts.
NIV
Ps 146:8
8 the LORD gives sight to the blind,
the LORD lifts up those who are bowed down,
the LORD loves the righteous.
NIV
John 10:17
17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life — only to take it up again.
NIV
John 14:21, 23
21 Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him....23 Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.
NIV
John 15:10
10 If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love.
NIV
John 16:27
27 No, the Father himself loves you because you have loved me and have believed that I came from God.
NIV
Which of these passages that support the conditional love of God is taken out context?
I notice he had left a few days ago. He will be missed, he was my best Aussie mate ever
But his position was not the same as the Jews you cited....
Go for it!
You might make us forget what was actually said.
Don't incite it, then.Im sure he probably supported the site but like many others couldnt handle the abuse that takes here,
Over here! Over here!
Stop looking into space and saying things to your imaginary friends.
What you said is fine.
But having no connection to the post you were responding to.
There are people here who believe they can of their own free will choose God without His help and that is a Pelagian heretic, no matter how many times you lie about it, or anything else for that matter. There are others who believe the will is free when Scripture says no such thing ... in fact it teaches the opposite ... and they are heretics also. We may as well also count all those who refuse to accept what the Bible says about the natural state of man... they are all heretics. Quite amazing actually that so many here pretend there is no such thing as a natural man. I am well aware that people such as yourself contest these facts, but that doesn't make you or them right... it just means you, and they, deny what the Bible says.
actually I've given you many invitations for you to quit your madness, but you've took no notice
Why well You've got an answer for everything mr genez, and just like this response you give, instead of taking notice, you once again pass the blame to somebody else.
Not backing down or giving up gracefully, is when you've grown stubborn in not giving anyone any mercy for the wrong reasons,
And you've been shown over and over again why you have,
you really are in need of help genez.
Irresistible Grace is understanding the moment our eyes are opened what we have because of God compared to what we needed without God.
Well in the passages relating to this one it states That God Leaves the 99 in the fold and searches for the one who is lost, which means he was already saved and has Gone astray.
Where as I think your puting it across as he's was not saved, and all he did was repent and become saved.
I guess you'veve missed that part.
Plus you've missed also that he searches you.
J
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1450 pages of "straining at gnats and swallowing camels" in my humble opinion, seems to be the best argument one could possibly make for the existence of free will.
Your opinion is neither humble nor sought. Neither is it Biblical.
Shall we add you to the scores of those to whom "taken captive to do the will of the devil" means nothing?
Ah, wait. Of your own volition, you did that...
There's no point in telling him, because in his mind irresistible grace is bad because it's mentioned in tulip.
And because irresistible grace takes away his free will, only free will lives in the flesh
You have to ask yourself for someone who claims to know so much about grace, does he really ?
I was thinking the same thing
plus the idea how we need to overcome free will, but I decided not to bother replying to ignorance