Israel and the present conflict
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What exactly is a carnal lie? That's quite an accusation your spouting there Falconn and I don't appreciate it in the least. You can be a keyboard warrior all you like, but do not call me a liar!! I have no reason to lie.
I know what I said. This comment wasn't made to you. And it went completely over your head. If that poster cares to comment they will.
I know what Romans 11 says, that is why I quoted it.
Are you God?! Do you know the number of Jews who will be saved?! Did God whisper it in your ear? No, you do not know. Israel will be restored, that's what the BIBLE says. The Jews will/are being gathered from around the world back to Israel just as the BIBLE says. The Word says they will NEVER be uprooted again. I don't know what Bible you're reading, but I know what the WORD says. So you better watch who you are calling a liar.
It amazes me how people don't know their Bibles then accuse others. These are usually the people with the loudest mouths.
That cat was out of the bag back when religions wanted Jesus dead, and that is a factual truth.
"his Biblical interpretations" equates to lack of Spiritual discernment. In fact there is no mention of discerning the Bible in Spirit.
Instead I get a ignorant post about 'opinions'.
Seems people are blindly content on trying to appease God out of their own ignorance and superstitions. (flesh profits nothing)
Many are on the road to destruction, it would be clearly factual, that if you are among the many, you are also on the road to destruction, seems easily logical to conclude doesn't !?!
Being among the few, is the narrow path that leads through the narrow gate to salvation, few find and few travel on.
Worrying about world conflicts is the dead burying the dead.
This is simply how God puts this in Truth :
Revelation 21:1
Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.
This clearly states there is NO rapture, as those who are rapture d into old heaven will pass away with old heaven.
Everything on old earth passes away INCLUDING the nation of Israel, that resides on old earth now even.
Nobody has commented how using beasts to describe a beastly conflict, parables the Beast of Revelation, but they will soon see it for themselves in due time.
But instead they will shout out .... the OT states they are God chosen people. Yes it does, but it is under certain CONDITIONS and certain circumstances they must OBEY.
This is God speaking :
Romans 10:21
But to Israel he says: “All day long I have stretched out My hands To a disobedient and contrary people.”
witness...
Proverbs 1:24-25
Because you refused my call, and no one took my outstretched hand, / because you neglected all my counsel, and wanted none of my correction,
Isaiah 65:2
All day long I have held out My hands to an obstinate people who walk in the wrong path, who follow their own imaginations,
Matthew 23:37
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling!
Acts 7:51
You stiff-necked people with uncircumcised hearts and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit, just as your fathers did.
Isaiah 30:9
These are rebellious people, deceitful children, children unwilling to obey the LORD’s instruction.
Jeremiah 7:25-26
From the day your fathers came out of the land of Egypt until this day, I have sent you all My servants the prophets again and again. / Yet they would not listen to Me or incline their ear, but they stiffened their necks and did more evil than their fathers.
Hosea 11:2
But the more I called Israel, the farther they departed from Me. They sacrificed to the Baals and burned incense to carved images.
John 5:40
yet you refuse to come to Me to have life.
Matthew 21:32
For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.
Isaiah 1:2-4
Listen, O heavens, and give ear, O earth, for the LORD has spoken: “I have raised children and brought them up, but they have rebelled against Me. / The ox knows its owner, and the donkey its master’s manger, but Israel does not know; My people do not understand.” / Alas, O sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a brood of evildoers, children who act corruptly! They have forsaken the LORD; they have despised the Holy One of Israel and turned their backs on Him.
Ezekiel 2:3-5
“Son of man,” He said to me, “I am sending you to the Israelites, to a rebellious nation that has rebelled against Me. To this very day they and their fathers have rebelled against Me. / They are obstinate and stubborn children. I am sending you to them, and you are to say to them, ‘This is what the Lord GOD says.’ / And whether they listen or refuse to listen—for they are a rebellious house—they will know that a prophet has been among them.
2 Chronicles 36:15-16
Again and again the LORD, the God of their fathers, sent word to His people through His messengers because He had compassion on them and on His dwelling place. / But they mocked the messengers of God, despising His words and scoffing at His prophets, until the wrath of the LORD against His people was stirred up beyond remedy.
Luke 13:34
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling!
>>>> God's chosen people, ONE has to considered what was Israel really chosen for.... ?!?
Romans 9:21
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
witness...
Isaiah 65:17
For behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind.
Matthew 19:28
Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, in the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Romans 8:21
that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!
>>>> This world will pass away with Israel in it.
There is noting anyone can do to stop the Will of a Living God.
"his Biblical interpretations" equates to lack of Spiritual discernment. In fact there is no mention of discerning the Bible in Spirit.
Instead I get a ignorant post about 'opinions'.
Seems people are blindly content on trying to appease God out of their own ignorance and superstitions. (flesh profits nothing)
Many are on the road to destruction, it would be clearly factual, that if you are among the many, you are also on the road to destruction, seems easily logical to conclude doesn't !?!
Being among the few, is the narrow path that leads through the narrow gate to salvation, few find and few travel on.
Worrying about world conflicts is the dead burying the dead.
This is simply how God puts this in Truth :
Revelation 21:1
Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.
This clearly states there is NO rapture, as those who are rapture d into old heaven will pass away with old heaven.
Everything on old earth passes away INCLUDING the nation of Israel, that resides on old earth now even.
Nobody has commented how using beasts to describe a beastly conflict, parables the Beast of Revelation, but they will soon see it for themselves in due time.
But instead they will shout out .... the OT states they are God chosen people. Yes it does, but it is under certain CONDITIONS and certain circumstances they must OBEY.
This is God speaking :
Romans 10:21
But to Israel he says: “All day long I have stretched out My hands To a disobedient and contrary people.”
witness...
Proverbs 1:24-25
Because you refused my call, and no one took my outstretched hand, / because you neglected all my counsel, and wanted none of my correction,
Isaiah 65:2
All day long I have held out My hands to an obstinate people who walk in the wrong path, who follow their own imaginations,
Matthew 23:37
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling!
Acts 7:51
You stiff-necked people with uncircumcised hearts and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit, just as your fathers did.
Isaiah 30:9
These are rebellious people, deceitful children, children unwilling to obey the LORD’s instruction.
Jeremiah 7:25-26
From the day your fathers came out of the land of Egypt until this day, I have sent you all My servants the prophets again and again. / Yet they would not listen to Me or incline their ear, but they stiffened their necks and did more evil than their fathers.
Hosea 11:2
But the more I called Israel, the farther they departed from Me. They sacrificed to the Baals and burned incense to carved images.
John 5:40
yet you refuse to come to Me to have life.
Matthew 21:32
For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.
Isaiah 1:2-4
Listen, O heavens, and give ear, O earth, for the LORD has spoken: “I have raised children and brought them up, but they have rebelled against Me. / The ox knows its owner, and the donkey its master’s manger, but Israel does not know; My people do not understand.” / Alas, O sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a brood of evildoers, children who act corruptly! They have forsaken the LORD; they have despised the Holy One of Israel and turned their backs on Him.
Ezekiel 2:3-5
“Son of man,” He said to me, “I am sending you to the Israelites, to a rebellious nation that has rebelled against Me. To this very day they and their fathers have rebelled against Me. / They are obstinate and stubborn children. I am sending you to them, and you are to say to them, ‘This is what the Lord GOD says.’ / And whether they listen or refuse to listen—for they are a rebellious house—they will know that a prophet has been among them.
2 Chronicles 36:15-16
Again and again the LORD, the God of their fathers, sent word to His people through His messengers because He had compassion on them and on His dwelling place. / But they mocked the messengers of God, despising His words and scoffing at His prophets, until the wrath of the LORD against His people was stirred up beyond remedy.
Luke 13:34
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling!
>>>> God's chosen people, ONE has to considered what was Israel really chosen for.... ?!?
Romans 9:21
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
witness...
Isaiah 65:17
For behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind.
Matthew 19:28
Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, in the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Romans 8:21
that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!
>>>> This world will pass away with Israel in it.
There is noting anyone can do to stop the Will of a Living God.
Here is why there is an "Israel and the present conflict" :
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
witness...
Job 2:10
“You speak as a foolish woman speaks,” he told her. “Should we accept from God only good and not adversity?” In all this, Job did not sin in what he said.
Lamentations 3:38
Do not both adversity and good come from the mouth of the Most High?
Deuteronomy 32:39
See now that I am He; there is no God besides Me. I bring death and I give life; I wound and I heal, and there is no one who can deliver from My hand.
1 Samuel 2:6-7
The LORD brings death and gives life; He brings down to Sheol and raises up. / The LORD sends poverty and wealth; He humbles and He exalts.
Ecclesiastes 7:14
In the day of prosperity, be joyful, but in the day of adversity, consider this: God has made one of these along with the other, so that a man cannot discover anything that will come after him.
Jeremiah 18:6-10
“O house of Israel, declares the LORD, can I not treat you as this potter treats his clay? Just like clay in the potter’s hand, so are you in My hand, O house of Israel. / At any time I might announce that a nation or kingdom will be uprooted, torn down, and destroyed. / But if that nation I warned turns from its evil, then I will relent of the disaster I had planned to bring. ...
Daniel 4:35
All the peoples of the earth are counted as nothing, and He does as He pleases with the army of heaven and the peoples of the earth. There is no one who can restrain His hand or say to Him, ‘What have You done?’”
Psalm 75:6-7
For exaltation comes neither from east nor west, nor out of the desert, / but it is God who judges; He brings down one and exalts another.
John 1:3
Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.
Colossians 1:16-17
For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him. / He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.
>>>> Yes , even conflicts are created by God Spirit, "For in Him ALL things were created,".
If this Truth gets anyone's 'undergarments' in an uproar, simply ignore me
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
witness...
Job 2:10
“You speak as a foolish woman speaks,” he told her. “Should we accept from God only good and not adversity?” In all this, Job did not sin in what he said.
Lamentations 3:38
Do not both adversity and good come from the mouth of the Most High?
Deuteronomy 32:39
See now that I am He; there is no God besides Me. I bring death and I give life; I wound and I heal, and there is no one who can deliver from My hand.
1 Samuel 2:6-7
The LORD brings death and gives life; He brings down to Sheol and raises up. / The LORD sends poverty and wealth; He humbles and He exalts.
Ecclesiastes 7:14
In the day of prosperity, be joyful, but in the day of adversity, consider this: God has made one of these along with the other, so that a man cannot discover anything that will come after him.
Jeremiah 18:6-10
“O house of Israel, declares the LORD, can I not treat you as this potter treats his clay? Just like clay in the potter’s hand, so are you in My hand, O house of Israel. / At any time I might announce that a nation or kingdom will be uprooted, torn down, and destroyed. / But if that nation I warned turns from its evil, then I will relent of the disaster I had planned to bring. ...
Daniel 4:35
All the peoples of the earth are counted as nothing, and He does as He pleases with the army of heaven and the peoples of the earth. There is no one who can restrain His hand or say to Him, ‘What have You done?’”
Psalm 75:6-7
For exaltation comes neither from east nor west, nor out of the desert, / but it is God who judges; He brings down one and exalts another.
John 1:3
Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.
Colossians 1:16-17
For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him. / He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.
>>>> Yes , even conflicts are created by God Spirit, "For in Him ALL things were created,".
If this Truth gets anyone's 'undergarments' in an uproar, simply ignore me
So I guess that you and I are to be diagnosed with LMNOPXYZ spiritual condition. Praise God for that
I do not see any person that chose to believe God ever disconnected from God, thanks to God in risen Son for us all.,/ I do see hate from my old ma frist born flesh in the way. My Old nature causing harm whenever I get angry.
Yet I can be angry, yet not sin! Wait I cannot be angry and not sin. So I choose to trust God to teach me how to not get angry
However God will not forsake anyone the that chosen sincere belief to his love and mercy of Son, for us all 1 John 2:1-27
What in the world are you talking about??
Who in the world are you talking about??
Are you talking to me or whom? Are you offended? That tends to happen when you call people a carnal liar when you know nothing about them.
What I said is in the Word Bub, look it up.
Who's you? Is it me? Wait, who's on third? I don't think someone who is spiritually unsure should be throwing insults at anybody.
But you don't know the number of Gentiles or Jews. So let's leave that in God's hands where it belongs and lead people to the Lord while there's still time.
The Bible says to heed the signs of the times. Heeding isn't worrying.
Rapture is another subject in another thread. But I disagree, I believe the Word teaches the rapture.
No, the land promise was unconditional and everlasting.
35Thus says the LORD, who gives the sun for light by day, who sets in order the moon and stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar—the LORD of Hosts is His name:
36“Only if this fixed order departed from My presence,
declares the LORD,
would Israel’s descendants ever cease
to be a nation before Me.”
37This is what the LORD says:
“Only if the heavens above could be measured
and the foundations of the earth below searched out
would I reject all of Israel’s descendants
because of all they have done,”
declares the LORD.
38“The days are coming,”i declares the LORD, “when this city will be rebuilt for Me, from the tower of Hananel to the Corner Gate. 39The measuring line will once again stretch out straight to the hill of Gareb and then turn toward Goah. 40The whole valley of the dead bodies and ashes, and all the fields as far as the Kidron Valley, to the corner of the Horse Gate to the east, will be holy to the LORD. It will never again be uprooted or demolished.”
Here is why there is an "Israel and the present conflict" :
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
witness...
Job 2:10
“You speak as a foolish woman speaks,” he told her. “Should we accept from God only good and not adversity?” In all this, Job did not sin in what he said.
Lamentations 3:38
Do not both adversity and good come from the mouth of the Most High?
Deuteronomy 32:39
See now that I am He; there is no God besides Me. I bring death and I give life; I wound and I heal, and there is no one who can deliver from My hand.
1 Samuel 2:6-7
The LORD brings death and gives life; He brings down to Sheol and raises up. / The LORD sends poverty and wealth; He humbles and He exalts.
Ecclesiastes 7:14
In the day of prosperity, be joyful, but in the day of adversity, consider this: God has made one of these along with the other, so that a man cannot discover anything that will come after him.
Jeremiah 18:6-10
“O house of Israel, declares the LORD, can I not treat you as this potter treats his clay? Just like clay in the potter’s hand, so are you in My hand, O house of Israel. / At any time I might announce that a nation or kingdom will be uprooted, torn down, and destroyed. / But if that nation I warned turns from its evil, then I will relent of the disaster I had planned to bring. ...
Daniel 4:35
All the peoples of the earth are counted as nothing, and He does as He pleases with the army of heaven and the peoples of the earth. There is no one who can restrain His hand or say to Him, ‘What have You done?’”
Psalm 75:6-7
For exaltation comes neither from east nor west, nor out of the desert, / but it is God who judges; He brings down one and exalts another.
John 1:3
Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.
Colossians 1:16-17
For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him. / He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.
>>>> Yes , even conflicts are created by God Spirit, "For in Him ALL things were created,".
If this Truth gets anyone's 'undergarments' in an uproar, simply ignore me
Putting all things in context in God's view, not people's view
God sees all and is righteous in all
Free choice is real and yes evil is a choice too.
Many choose evil and yet repent too. The Corinthians did seen in 2 Cor 7. God I see only wants what is best for each Jeremiah 29:11
Jeremiah 29:11
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.
Isaiah 66:18
For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.
Best for me to stand in trust to God as said in Col 1:21-23
Yet, there is a time he did, yet did not. Was in the Temple destroyed now. Appeared he was making a whip. they perceived he was going to whip them. God did not. and even deeper after risen he was seen s risen from the dead by those that got him killed. He still did not even sayI told you so. No condemnation
When will we all get this, Romans 8:1-3 and see the division for new life to begin by belief to the King, God Father in risen Son for us as redconciled 2 Cor 5:16-20. Noting verse 16, we once knew him (Jesus) in the flesh, today no more. He is risen, what we see now is temporary, the unseen is eternal
And Paul talks about putting no trust in any flesh Phil 3 thanks as we continue to mature humbly
I do not always respond to those who simply express their opinions.
Nobody is under my dictatorship, and all have a right to opinions of their own.
It is all just background noise to me.
This time you have invoked Jeremiah 31, which you pick up from v.35.
That deserves a response in my opinion, so I will show you how I have come to understand the chapter.
Jeremiah 31:1-30 is Gods message of comfort to the suffering captives. He tells them of the restoration of Jerusalem at the time of the second temple.
I reject attempts to skip over this restoration to a future restoration, because of the time and circumstances that the message was given.
After v. 31 it gets interesting because the New Covenant is introduced.
This is the New Covenant of Jesus and that is a solid fact because the same verses are re-quoted in Hebrews 8:8-12.
Those that attempt to push this event into the future not only hide the testimony of our Lord, but show their allegiance to a Satanic religion that opposes Him.
The nature of the New Covenant shows that God intends a new and improved way of relating to His people:
31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Now you have picked up the passage immediately after this, where God declares that "If those ordinances (sun moon and stars) depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever" (v.36).
It seems that you think God is speaking of an earthly nation, but He is not.
Heavenly Jerusalem and the Israel of God are realities, and all God's people are citizens of that nation.
There is hope for the Jews who are yet unsaved, but it is in Jesus not in modern Israel.
I used to see Chuck Missler teach on Wednesday nights, at Calvary Chapel Coasta Mesa. I believe he was encouraged by Hal Lindsey to teach Bible Prophecy, but I'm not sure about that bit. Hal Lindsey passed away recently as well. Sad. Jack Van Impe is still on with his lovely wife Roxella Van Impe. Jack hit the jackpot there. Lucky man. He and his wife sort of read news headlines and quote Bible verses.
Anyways, yeah Chuck Missler also had a monthly newsletter, it was quite informative. He was sort of the X-files type Bible teacher, you never really knew what he was gonna teach next.
I was hoping to get updates on the war, because I haven't been paying attention. I heard a quote from Donald Trump, and it sounds like it's out of control.
Albert Pike supposedly wrote this a long time ago...
""The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.
Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion... We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.
This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
I like this video by Alexander Cain, he has some insights on Bible Prophecy as well....
Just peaked on the news.... Looks like Israel hit Lebanon, and Iran is threatening revenge for death of leader. I don't know. Anyone want to catch me up, I need a war briefing.
Of course there is the new covenant. There is more than two you realize? The covenant God made with Abraham was unconditional and everlasting. God made an oath, I choose to believe God is a promise keeper. Because if He won't keep His word to the Jews He won't keep His word to you! God gave a Land, Israel, and a promise to His chosen people. He said He would gather them again from where He scattered them and they would never be uprooted again. He didn't make that promise to the Gentile, He made it to the Jews.
Romans 11, the Jews are still blinded. Israel is the apple of God's eye. If it's that important to Him, it ought to be to you. 1948 started God's prophetic time clock. The promises God makes He will keep. That is what the Word says, period. It's not opinion. We do not replace the Jews.
What i actually mean by "opinion" is the things that we say without thoughtful back up from the Bible that we all can follow.
Don't forget that I work with bees.
If they can't sting me I do not pay attention to them all.
Well we might get along on this thread, but I am really interested in your work with bees. I can't derail the thread but I watched a tv show on this man that moved bee hives that were a problem to the humans around it. I found it fascinating. Maybe you could start a thread about it. I have questions but like I said I don't want to derail the thread.
Well I have been getting along well as far as I can tell.
I'm not too keen on starting too many threads though. I hope you don't mind.
You probably have watched enough Crocodile Dundee to understand us people down here.
Life sure can be hectic! The crocks keep getting out and chasing the kids, the emu ate our goanna and...
I almost forgot I got to see a man about a wallaby!
Somehow I seem to find time for deep theological discussion in the midst of it all though, because I am an addict.
I need people to challenge me with scripture and reason, I do not see it all as a fight between persons but a quest for the truth.
Comfortable home congregations don't always give us that.
No, honestly I've been here a long time and don't start a lot of threads of my own.
Wow! Sounds too adventurous for me! I think I'll stick to the good ol' US
I can get with that. I was raised on that. My family was big on discussion when it came to the Bible, our worldview, why did we believe what we believed. Sounds good, I won't take it personally from here out. Have a blessed day.
It would be a pity to stop digging here, because I sense that we are not far away from treasure.
I was speaking "figuratively" about that crocodile stuff BTW, just playing into a stereotype.
Jesus is the best definition of Jewishness that there ever will be.
All the other ones only use Jewishness as a cover story and are satanic in origin.
Satan will wrestle with God, as will modern "Israel" and not prevail, but Jesus will prevail.
That is the true meaning of the name Israel.
God will fulfill His promises but in His way like He did with Isaac.
We have built an 'Israel" without any command from the king, acting as Abraham did when he had a son from Hagar. (Galatians 4:22-31).
God chose the children of Jacob not for themselves, but with the people of the whole world in mind.
Search "peculiar people" in the OT, and notice how it is used in 1Peter 2:9 and Titus 2:14.
My view is that God has always had a regard for the physical children, but they only become His chosen people by faith.
All of this continues to this day independent of peoples DNA, just as it was in the old.
Abraham was born a Gentile. (Galatians 4:3)
Lol I do realize that, but I've seen some of your insects and that would be enough to keep me on this side of the pond. Actually I didn't realize how dangerous kangaroos can be! But we have our own scary things here like brown recluse spiders and rattle snakes.
Oh I totally believe that Jews must come to faith the same as Gentiles do. I just believe that right now, as Romans 11 says, they are blinded.