Trumps gonna win.

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Status
Not open for further replies.
"I can't believe somebody got upset. all somebody said was that 6 million people deserve to die."

Is this what you would like me to say or is this what you tell yourself? Look man I am not meaning to drum on you or nothing, I just think you go too fast to the racist and antisemitic card and you miscontruing people's words and their true intentions. Don't be sour about it with me, like I said if you get past your initial triggering you might actually like that movie and be able to engage their side topic, but I think it's just too vast for this topic and should be its own topic, or elsewise be more appropriate to an already existing topic about like freewill or the problem of evil or other themes around that. So I guess to conclude and pivot us back to the topic, good thing Trump is the President so there will be no Holocaust for 3 more years guaranteed, praise Jesus.


 
Is this what you would like me to say or is this what you tell yourself? Look man I am not meaning to drum on you or nothing, I just think you go too fast to the racist and antisemitic card and you miscontruing people's words and their true intentions. Don't be sour about it with me, like I said if you get past your initial triggering you might actually like that movie and be able to engage their side topic, but I think it's just too vast for this topic and should be its own topic, or elsewise be more appropriate to an already existing topic about like freewill or the problem of evil or other themes around that. So I guess to conclude and pivot us back to the topic, good thing Trump is the President so there will be no Holocaust for 3 more years guaranteed, praise Jesus.



he said the murder of 6 million people was God's righteous judgment. the definition of righteous is something that is good or virtuous. so he said it was a good thing that 6 million people were murdered for something they didn't do.

what Holocaust do you think Trump is stopping? it's not Democrats who are marching to the streets with swastikas yelling Jews will not replace us.
 
he said the murder of 6 million people was God's righteous judgment. the definition of righteous is something that is good or virtuous. so he said it was a good thing that 6 million people were murdered for something they didn't do.

what Holocaust do you think Trump is stopping? it's not Democrats who are marching to the streets with swastikas yelling Jews will not replace us.


That's not the argument Hitler used, Hitler thought humans would evolve into the ubermensch darwinistically by eliminating the untermensch. At any rate even that is besides the point, as even if Hitler had the premise you purport, that wouldn't change the nature of their side debate which mostly revolves around what is called The Problem of Evil. Since I guess I put my foot in it, I'll say I disagree with the conclusion of ZNP's side debate, but I partially agree with his premise. Yes many of the Jews were evil, that is a fact. The Holocaust was also evil done unto them that is also a fact. I don't think the Holocaust was a judgment by God, nor that it's like he permitted Satan to do anything. I think it's closer to Joseph's statement to his brothers "you meant evil for me, but God used it for good." Even terming it the Holocaust implies this dynamic, and I would note the Jews termed it the Holocaust, not the nazis, and the term implies a sacrifice. In many ways due to the Holocaust this directly resulted in the creation of the nationstate of Israel and their strong claim to legitimacy over the land so that the Jewish can have a safe refuge in the world in case something like that occurs again, thus supporting my conclusion and point of view. I won't go too much more on it though, cause while it is an interesting historical and religious grand debate, it is a digression.

Well I already explained to you my conclusion and that it was different from his. I noticed he treats me with more couth in disagreeing with his conclusion than you ostensibly being more aligned with mine than his.

Both that and your more relevant question about Trump are also answered by the same post so I'll just copy it below. And just to be clear before you go trying to interject your words into my mouth, the implication is Trump upholding strong US-Israel ties as well as his repeated commitment to Israel's right to exist is the best hedge against another Holocaust precisely because Israel is made for the Jews to have a refuge. I guess in addition to this and to pivot a little more, not only does Trump guarantee the refuge, but also, he's making deals to give them pretty good defenses too.

Can't even make this up if I tried, just 15 minutes ago White House youtube page dropped this video:
 
Well I already explained to you my conclusion and that it was different from his. I noticed he treats me with more couth in disagreeing with his conclusion than you ostensibly being more aligned with mine than his.

Both that and your more relevant question about Trump are also answered by the same post so I'll just copy it below. And just to be clear before you go trying to interject your words into my mouth, the implication is Trump upholding strong US-Israel ties as well as his repeated commitment to Israel's right to exist is the best hedge against another Holocaust precisely because Israel is made for the Jews to have a refuge. I guess in addition to this and to pivot a little more, not only does Trump guarantee the refuge, but also, he's making deals to give them pretty good defenses too.

Can't even make this up if I tried, just 15 minutes ago White House youtube page dropped this video:
United States protects Israel because they are our only Ally in a region controlled by hey bronze age death cult


but according to at least a couple people on this forum, my protector Israel at all seeing as how they're these nasty evil Christ killers and all even though they're literally 2,000 years too late to be guilty of killing Jesus
 
oops typo why bother protecting Israel at all since they are these evil Christ Killers according to at least a couple people here on this forum
 
he said the murder of 6 million people was God's righteous judgment. the definition of righteous is something that is good or virtuous. so he said it was a good thing that 6 million people were murdered for something they didn't do.

what Holocaust do you think Trump is stopping? it's not Democrats who are marching to the streets with swastikas yelling Jews will not replace us.
No, I said it was righteous judgment, did not say it was God's righteous judgement. Dude does not understand righteous judgement. It is like one of these Karens going full Karen on someone only to have it blow up in their face. I used the example of Biff and Marty. I also did not say that they "deserved it". Jesus did not deserve to be crucified, He was innocent, therefore with what measure you measure it will be measured to you does not mean that you only get what you deserve. That is not how you measured to others.

Also this whole point of you have to go back 2,000 years is baloney. What they did to Jesus exposes sinful mankind. No one thinks that people 2,000 years ago were more sinful than we are today.

Also the entire discussion ignores the covenant with God. To claim that you are a Jew means you are claiming to have this covenant with God. Once you are married you are not as free as you were when you were single, things change. The only way you can blame God for what happened to them is if they say they were in a covenant relationship and they expected God to protect them. But that is a two way street, God expects you to obey Him. If they disregarded God's word to them to return to Israel then they cannot expect Him to protect them when they are ignoring His word of protection.

For example, a woman gets married, she expects her husband to protect her. However, she still hangs out in bars without him. He tells her to leave the bars and be with Him, she ignores Him. Then she gets raped and beaten. Did she deserve that? I would never say that. However, had she listened to her husband this would not have happened, so don't blame him. Was her being raped and beaten a direct result of her ignoring her husband and going to the bars? Very likely it was.
 
United States protects Israel because they are our only Ally in a region controlled by hey bronze age death cult


but according to at least a couple people on this forum, my protector Israel at all seeing as how they're these nasty evil Christ killers and all even though they're literally 2,000 years too late to be guilty of killing Jesus

They're not our only ally in the Middle East. In fact Trump's good relationship with mostly the Sunni states also is beneficial to Israel, though in a softer way. Essentially the Sunni will at least have relative peace with Israel while Trump is President and has the political acumen enough to keep them relatively peaceful with eachother at least on the official level of nationstates. Though this doesn't totally mitigate the threat to Israel posed by the Muslim world, namely the Shia still hate Israel and also America, and they also control basically Lebanon and Iran, but it does indirectly help alot, plus with the ending of the Gaza war, this alleviates some of the exisitential pressure on Israelm and that existential pressure is what puts the Jews on edge rightly so, it's what they learned from the Holocaust. Though indeed Islam can never be trusted to fully to be at peace with the Jews in the long haul, it is worth it for the immediate time period for US, Israel, and the Sunnis to have peace and by even a very fundamentalist understanding of Christianity or Islam we could potentially extend the peace to last after Trump too if we're smart and lean into Trump's politics instead of poke against it, as even by a strict understanding of Sunni Islam they can have a peace for 10 years with non-muslims before we have to figure something else out by diplomacy or war.

I guess for the posterity since I didn't post it before, the full video of Trump's meeting with Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince, and why past the stupid headlines of midwits on the left trying to provoke, actually Trump's meeting with MBS was pretty on spot and shows that actually we have a firm relationship with Saudi Arabia and Trump has actually made huge progress on the front of Middle East diplomacy. They are actually making a lot of big investments into America and they are also normalizing relations more with Israel too (keep in mind they were not originally part of the Abraham Accords in Trump's first term.) So whether one likes Trump, Jews, Islam , Christianity, or whether they straight up hate them, it's undeniable that Trump has made great strides on this front and that actually the new dynamic is preferable and more beneficial for all involved.

 
They're not our only ally in the Middle East. In fact Trump's good relationship with mostly the Sunni states also is beneficial to Israel, though in a softer way. Essentially the Sunni will at least have relative peace with Israel while Trump is President and has the political acumen enough to keep them relatively peaceful with eachother at least on the official level of nationstates. Though this doesn't totally mitigate the threat to Israel posed by the Muslim world, namely the Shia still hate Israel and also America, and they also control basically Lebanon and Iran, but it does indirectly help alot, plus with the ending of the Gaza war, this alleviates some of the exisitential pressure on Israelm and that existential pressure is what puts the Jews on edge rightly so, it's what they learned from the Holocaust. Though indeed Islam can never be trusted to fully to be at peace with the Jews in the long haul, it is worth it for the immediate time period for US, Israel, and the Sunnis to have peace and by even a very fundamentalist understanding of Christianity or Islam we could potentially extend the peace to last after Trump too if we're smart and lean into Trump's politics instead of poke against it, as even by a strict understanding of Sunni Islam they can have a peace for 10 years with non-muslims before we have to figure something else out by diplomacy or war.

I guess for the posterity since I didn't post it before, the full video of Trump's meeting with Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince, and why past the stupid headlines of midwits on the left trying to provoke, actually Trump's meeting with MBS was pretty on spot and shows that actually we have a firm relationship with Saudi Arabia and Trump has actually made huge progress on the front of Middle East diplomacy. They are actually making a lot of big investments into America and they are also normalizing relations more with Israel too (keep in mind they were not originally part of the Abraham Accords in Trump's first term.) So whether one likes Trump, Jews, Islam , Christianity, or whether they straight up hate them, it's undeniable that Trump has made great strides on this front and that actually the new dynamic is preferable and more beneficial for all involved.


yeah, continuing to do business with the country who did 9/11 is wild
 
yeah, continuing to do business with the country who did 9/11 is wild

I'm pretty sure we already had this discussion in the past specifically. Saudi Arabia didn't do 9/11, they exiled Osama Bin Laden before 9/11, the host country that helped him specifically was Afghanistan (this is the difference between Al Qaeda = OBL and Taliban = former and now current Afghanistan official state government.)
 
11:10 "You know, you're starting to see some chinks in the veneer basically here where it's like maybe this White House actually doesn't have its stuff together." lol, ya think?

 
11:10 "You know, you're starting to see some chinks in the veneer basically here where it's like maybe this White House actually doesn't have its stuff together." lol, ya think?

wouldn't be the first time someone has gotten away with a crime because someone couldn't follow due process
 
he said the murder of six million people was righteous judgment. Hitler used that exact argument verbatim.


making excuses for the murder of 6 million people is pure evil.
Or they thought saying a thing is a sick joke....which is definitely not funny.
 
unless the 1930s Jews built a time machine and went back to 2000 years into the past, they didn't kill jesus.
Catholics used to teach that Jews were murdering Christians and using their blood to cast magic spells.

Hitler played on this sentiment to gain support for genociding the jews. the Nazis even more belt buckles that says God is with us.

6 million innocent people didn't deserve what happened to them and anyone who says otherwise is a nazi. I said what I said
Some years back a so-called evangelical was debating with a relative of mine who is a non-Christian trying to tell him how Jews killed Christ.
He gave them quite a nasty rebuttal and they left him alone after that.
 
Some years back a so-called evangelical was debating with a relative of mine who is a non-Christian trying to tell him how Jews killed Christ.
He gave them quite a nasty rebuttal and they left him alone after that.
imagine having a time machine,and travel back to 1930s Germany

The Time traveler series a group of Jews being loaded into a gas chamber. "I know this is an unfortunate situation for you guys but you see, this is God's righteous judgment even though you weren't alive 2,000 years ago when they killed Jesus"

"yeah little girl, I know you just watched a German soldier shoot your mother in the face but just know that this was righteous judgment'

what an despicable thing to say. I'm never unblocking him again
 
imagine having a time machine,and travel back to 1930s Germany

The Time traveler series a group of Jews being loaded into a gas chamber. "I know this is an unfortunate situation for you guys but you see, this is God's righteous judgment even though you weren't alive 2,000 years ago when they killed Jesus"

"yeah little girl, I know you just watched a German soldier shoot your mother in the face but just know that this was righteous judgment'

what an despicable thing to say. I'm never unblocking him again
I apologize to anyone who truly thought this is what I was saying,. It doesn't align with all of my posts, nor could you make this conclusion based on my clarifying remarks. But I can understand how someone could look at that one post, and rather than ask for clarification decide this is what was meant and be offended, and I apologize for that.

So I will clarify again, prior to the Holocaust, beginning in 1917 there was a call for Jews to return to Israel. Jews were not killed in the gas chambers in Germany until 1941. The Jews were first rounded up into the Ghetto in 1939. So they had 22 years to respond to the call to go to Israel. The Jews who were rounded up were in Germany, and in German occupied countries: Poland, Hungary, France, Slovakia, Greece, Belgium, and Austria.

Now let's define what I mean when I say Jews because it may not be the same as everyone else. I mean a covenant people who have a covenant with God. So what may seem unfair to someone who doesn't have the same covenant is not relevant, you have to look at the covenant the Jews had. Also, I am not referring to someone whose parents were Jews, I mean people who identified as a covenant people with God according to the Old Testament.

Now if you sign a covenant that has both blessings and curses you must keep that covenant, it is a legally binding document. It is very clear that they did not keep the covenant and as a result the curses were exercised on them. You may not like to hear that, but facts are facts.

For reference here are the curses stipulated in the covenant:

Deuteronomy 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.

17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store.

18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.

19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out.


Now the reason is simple, you refuse to hearken to the voice of the Lord. The Lord was telling them from 1917 to go to Israel. For 22 years they refused. After that they got rounded up and this holocaust happened. It was horrific, it was criminal on the part of the Nazi's and Hitler, but the Jews were told specifically this would happen to them if they refused to hearken to the voice of the Lord.

[From our best analysis of my families tree on my mother's side we are Jewish. I am a Christian, but it seems I am descended from Jews on my mom's side. Therefore I take this word as a very serious warning to hearken to the Lord when He speaks].
 
Some years back a so-called evangelical was debating with a relative of mine who is a non-Christian trying to tell him how Jews killed Christ.
He gave them quite a nasty rebuttal and they left him alone after that.

imagine having a time machine,and travel back to 1930s Germany

The Time traveler series a group of Jews being loaded into a gas chamber. "I know this is an unfortunate situation for you guys but you see, this is God's righteous judgment even though you weren't alive 2,000 years ago when they killed Jesus"

"yeah little girl, I know you just watched a German soldier shoot your mother in the face but just know that this was righteous judgment'

what an despicable thing to say. I'm never unblocking him again

Both of you should definitely watch God on Trial. I'd recommend it even more to TB frankly because of his past mentions of stuff and avatar choices. I would bet an award emoji you actually will like it if you approach it with a more open mind towards religion. In addition to being based on real events and also the filler/story philosophical themes being provided by actual Holocaust survivors, it is also a British film they did back in like 2008, it wasn't like a blockbuster or nothing, but still kinda something a nod to the british and commonwealth culture too in it.

Free on youtube, but again a bit of a discretion warning its a mature topic sure, but actually don't feel so morally righteous yourself and push away totally the perspective of the actual people, some of them had sorta similar points of view in the course of the trial to ZNP as well as to myself and you guys too as well as others. It's a vast topic and deep, so yea i mean you will get triggered. but if you have something of an open mind and approach the subject with good faith I think actually you would like it (you don't have to neccessarily admit it on here btw).
 
I apologize to anyone who truly thought this is what I was saying,. It doesn't align with all of my posts, nor could you make this conclusion based on my clarifying remarks. But I can understand how someone could look at that one post, and rather than ask for clarification decide this is what was meant and be offended, and I apologize for that.

So I will clarify again, prior to the Holocaust, beginning in 1917 there was a call for Jews to return to Israel. Jews were not killed in the gas chambers in Germany until 1941. The Jews were first rounded up into the Ghetto in 1939. So they had 22 years to respond to the call to go to Israel. The Jews who were rounded up were in Germany, and in German occupied countries: Poland, Hungary, France, Slovakia, Greece, Belgium, and Austria.

Now let's define what I mean when I say Jews because it may not be the same as everyone else. I mean a covenant people who have a covenant with God. So what may seem unfair to someone who doesn't have the same covenant is not relevant, you have to look at the covenant the Jews had. Also, I am not referring to someone whose parents were Jews, I mean people who identified as a covenant people with God according to the Old Testament.

Now if you sign a covenant that has both blessings and curses you must keep that covenant, it is a legally binding document. It is very clear that they did not keep the covenant and as a result the curses were exercised on them. You may not like to hear that, but facts are facts.

For reference here are the curses stipulated in the covenant:

Deuteronomy 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.

17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store.

18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.

19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out.

Now the reason is simple, you refuse to hearken to the voice of the Lord. The Lord was telling them from 1917 to go to Israel. For 22 years they refused. After that they got rounded up and this holocaust happened. It was horrific, it was criminal on the part of the Nazi's and Hitler, but the Jews were told specifically this would happen to them if they refused to hearken to the voice of the Lord.

[From our best analysis of my families tree on my mother's side we are Jewish. I am a Christian, but it seems I am descended from Jews on my mom's side. Therefore I take this word as a very serious warning to hearken to the Lord when He speaks].
Here is the continuation of the curses from Deuteronomy 28

15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.

17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store.

18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.

19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out.

20 The Lord shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.

21 The Lord shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it.

22 The Lord shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish.

23 And thy heaven that is over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee shall be iron.

24 The Lord shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed.

25 The Lord shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.

26 And thy carcase shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall fray them away.

27 The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed.

28 The Lord shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart:

29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.

30 Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.

31 Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them.

32 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand.

33 The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway:

34 So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.

35 The Lord shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head.

36 The Lord shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.

37 And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the Lord shall lead thee.

38 Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it.

39 Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them.

40 Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit.

41 Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity.

42 All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume.

43 The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.

44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.

45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:

46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.

47 Because thou servedst not the Lord thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;

48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the Lord shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.
 
Here is the cotinuation of the curses from Deuteronomy 28 (part 2)

49 The Lord shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:

51 And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.

52 And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the Lord thy God hath given thee.

53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the Lord thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee:

54 So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave:

55 So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates.

56 The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter,

57 And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates.

58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, The Lord Thy God;

59 Then the Lord will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.

60 Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee.

61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the Lord bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed.

62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the Lord thy God.

63 And it shall come to pass, that as the Lord rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the Lord will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it.

64 And the Lord shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.

65 And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the Lord shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:

66 And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life:

67 In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.

68 And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.