Should the church preach the gospel?

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I feel bad for any unbelievers looking at this forum. The putting down of other denominations, the arguing, and the immature name calling is sad. It definitely has nothing to do with the fruit of the Spirit. If you guys want to argue and call each other out then do it in private and not on an open website in front of the world. Or better yet don’t do it in front of God at all. No one person on here is 100% correct in their theology. We all believe what we believe and this is a place where we should be able to discuss those beliefs civilly. If you love Christ then you should act like the ambassador that you’re called to be. I love you all. God bless.

Yes, we should not only preach the gospel but also practice the didache (moral teachings)
in order not to be hypocritical like the Pharisees. (Matt. 23:8-33)
 
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Yes, we should not only preach the gospel but also practice the didache (moral teachings)
in order not to be hypocritical like the Pharisees. (Matt. 23:8-33)
Growing/ongoing morality is a component of the gospel, just not a basic core concept.
 
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Growing/ongoing morality is a component of the gospel, just not a basic core concept.

Yes, or expressed another way, the beginning of being saved occurs at the moment of conversion, when we invite Jesus to enter
our hearts as Lord (Rev. 3:20, Rom. 5:5), and the saint continues to be saved while being completely sanctified or growing spiritually toward being perfectly loving (Eph. 2:8-10, 3:16-19 & 4:11-13).

Anyone who does not hunger and thirst for moral righteousness ought to judge the genuineness of his/her faith (Matt. 5:6, 1Cor. 11:28).
 
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Should the local church preach the gospel to its congregation? The gospel of Jesus Christ is how he died for our sins, was buried, and rose again on the third day. Shouldn't those in the local assembly already have this checked off? Isn't church about equipping the saints through the preaching of the word to walk as children of light? When people hear the same message over and over, they do not mature in their faith but remain babes in Christ.

Thoughts??

Well, the end part of a sermon with a gospel presentation at my church is usually for new people visiting.

There is though an affect of questioning yourself as a believer when it is presented. Sometimes the pastor will say this is meant for those who aren't sure, or for visiting people, but not always.
 
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Well, the end part of a sermon with a gospel presentation at my church is usually for new people visiting.

There is though an affect of questioning yourself as a believer when it is presented. Sometimes the pastor will say this is meant for those who aren't sure, or for visiting people, but not always.

I believe this is a good way to end most sermons, just in case you have people visiting who are not saved.
 
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Growing/ongoing morality is a component of the gospel, just not a basic core concept.

In other words if we sow to the flesh (sin) we don't reap corruption as Gal 6:7,8 teaches?

Not being morally upright means we are lying, stealing, etc etc which is sowing to the flesh and is in fact sinful behavior.

When people are taught such false doctrines they tend to believe they can live in sin and still be in right standing with the Lord which is doctrines of devils because this is not what the Lord teaches in His Word

The Holy Spirit never leads anybody to be immoral and actually empowers Christians to walk upright so the good works are actually coming from the Holy Spirit. It is our responsibility to yield to the Holy Spirit to be led of the Lord which results in good works.

Refusing to be led of the Lord results in walking after the flesh which causes people to disqualify themselves from salvation because the Lord is no longer their first love having turned away from the Lord to live for self (sin)

It's a real shame that some many have been deceived by so called once saved always saved fake gospel, but it's to be expected as the Lord warned about this in the end times.



Anyone who does not hunger and thirst for moral righteousness ought to judge the genuineness of his/her faith

But the fake gospel teachers say they are still saved as they turn away from the Lord to live in sin.
 
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In other words if we sow to the flesh (sin) we don't reap corruption as Gal 6:7,8 teaches?

Not being morally upright means we are lying, stealing, etc etc which is sowing to the flesh and is in fact sinful behavior.

When people are taught such false doctrines they tend to believe they can live in sin and still be in right standing with the Lord which is doctrines of devils because this is not what the Lord teaches in His Word

The Holy Spirit never leads anybody to be immoral and actually empowers Christians to walk upright so the good works are actually coming from the Holy Spirit. It is our responsibility to yield to the Holy Spirit to be led of the Lord which results in good works.

Refusing to be led of the Lord results in walking after the flesh which causes people to disqualify themselves from salvation because the Lord is no longer their first love having turned away from the Lord to live for self (sin)

It's a real shame that some many have been deceived by so called once saved always saved fake gospel, but it's to be expected as the Lord warned about this in the end times.
It’s also a real shame when people take the comments of others in the worst possible light, apparently with the intention of appearing more righteous or knowledgeable.
 
It’s also a real shame when people take the comments of others in the worst possible light, apparently with the intention of appearing more righteous or knowledgeable.

Code for "follow our fake gospel"

Thanks, but no thanks.
 
In other words if we sow to the flesh (sin) we don't reap corruption as Gal 6:7,8 teaches?

Not being morally upright means we are lying, stealing, etc etc which is sowing to the flesh and is in fact sinful behavior.

When people are taught such false doctrines they tend to believe they can live in sin and still be in right standing with the Lord which is doctrines of devils because this is not what the Lord teaches in His Word

The Holy Spirit never leads anybody to be immoral and actually empowers Christians to walk upright so the good works are actually coming from the Holy Spirit. It is our responsibility to yield to the Holy Spirit to be led of the Lord which results in good works.

Refusing to be led of the Lord results in walking after the flesh which causes people to disqualify themselves from salvation because the Lord is no longer their first love having turned away from the Lord to live for self (sin)

It's a real shame that some many have been deceived by so called once saved always saved fake gospel, but it's to be expected as the Lord warned about this in the end times.





But the fake gospel teachers say they are still saved as they turn away from the Lord to live in sin.

Once Saved always saved is completely based on the efficacy and sufficiency of Jesus's salvation for the sinner who believes.

So.. once saved, a person has the Holy Spirit indwelling them. Therefore, they will experience rebuke/chastening when they sin.

So this is not 'a license to sin'.

Sin carries consequences..eg .getting kicked from a church, losing fellowship with fellow Christians and God possibly cutting their life short to stop their sin affecting others.

But not loss of eternal life. Eternal means eternal.

You've been fed the usual vitriol in response to osas.. Just look at scripture.
 
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So this is not 'a license to sin'.

Actually it is exactly that.

You are telling people they can never ever lose their salvation even if they turn away from the Lord and live in sin

God's Word does not teach that and the false doctrine you espouse can out of the false teachers that started rising up among believers when the Apostle Paul left the planet.


Acts 20:27-30
For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.




Sin carries consequences

There is no darkness in God.

There won't be any sinners allowed in to Heaven so I sure hope you learn how to put on the new man and FAST

Ephesians 4:22-24
put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.



The false teachers love to proudly proclaim they are sinners clueless-doh.gif
 
The greatest Armor and Equipment you Can have Is the Good news Of Jesus Christ and in my opinion the only thing any CHRISTIAN CHURCH SHOULD preach. I was actually stunned that you even wrote it but God Bless you. The Whole Bible Is about Jesus Christ. Jesus makes all things new and he and his words never ever get old even if you find it boring.....I would like you to pray about your life with Christ, My Pastor has preached we don't go to church to check off attendance and religious ways for we go to Church to MEET with Jesus Christ,.You apparently, have checked off the most important reason to church and are ready to move on to ,,,what? I can tell you the only other place to go in the Bible without Christ is the Law and you don't want to live that way
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Actually it is exactly that.

You are telling people they can never ever lose their salvation even if they turn away from the Lord and live in sin

God's Word does not teach that and the false doctrine you espouse can out of the false teachers that started rising up among believers when the Apostle Paul left the planet.


Acts 20:27-30
For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.






There is no darkness in God.

There won't be any sinners allowed in to Heaven so I sure hope you learn how to put on the new man and FAST

Ephesians 4:22-24
put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.



The false teachers love to proudly proclaim they are sinners View attachment 282533

Sin is imperfection. No one is sinless and perfect till they are in heaven. Therefore all are sinners, saved or not.

But a saved sinner..would sin less, because of the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit. Not that they won't sin at all

This is not a license to sin..Paul talks about this in Romans.

We are to flee from sin. But if we fail.. God won't leave us. That's real love. That's grace
 
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Should the local church preach the gospel to its congregation? The gospel of Jesus Christ is how he died for our sins, was buried, and rose again on the third day. Shouldn't those in the local assembly already have this checked off? Isn't church about equipping the saints through the preaching of the word to walk as children of light? When people hear the same message over and over, they do not mature in their faith but remain babes in Christ.

Thoughts??
the cross is to be preached. The Gospel is to be preached to all. And if only those who go to a church are those who have already heard the message no new people come in that is a dead church. Because God adds to the church those he wants to save. once you are saved you need to be discipled then sent. Or do something for the kingdom.
 
In other words if we sow to the flesh (sin) we don't reap corruption as Gal 6:7,8 teaches?

Not being morally upright means we are lying, stealing, etc etc which is sowing to the flesh and is in fact sinful behavior.

When people are taught such false doctrines they tend to believe they can live in sin and still be in right standing with the Lord which is doctrines of devils because this is not what the Lord teaches in His Word

The Holy Spirit never leads anybody to be immoral and actually empowers Christians to walk upright so the good works are actually coming from the Holy Spirit. It is our responsibility to yield to the Holy Spirit to be led of the Lord which results in good works.

Refusing to be led of the Lord results in walking after the flesh which causes people to disqualify themselves from salvation because the Lord is no longer their first love having turned away from the Lord to live for self (sin)

It's a real shame that some many have been deceived by so called once saved always saved fake gospel, but it's to be expected as the Lord warned about this in the end times.

But the fake gospel teachers say they are still saved as they turn away from the Lord to live in sin.

Yes. No one achieves moral perfection in this life (Phil. 3:12), but no one who lacks divine love will reap eternal life with God
(Gal. 6:7-8). Thus, a person who claims to be godly but who is behaving in an ungodly (unloving, untruthful) manner may be in one of the following categories:

a. a normally loving person observed during a rare moment when he/she acted uncharacteristically (Phil. 3:12-16),

b. an immature Believer, who is making progress–you should have known him/her a year ago! (1Cor. 3:1-3, Eph. 4:11-15)

c. a truthseeker who has not yet learned the correct interpretation of God’s Word (1Cor. 6:9-11, Eph. 5:8-9), or

d. a pseudo-Christian (Matt. 7:21, 1John 2:19), who may affirm morality while rejecting its divine rationale.

e. an apostate (Heb. 6:4-6, 10:23-39), who once believed but became blasphemous or foolish and ship-wrecked their faith (1Tim. 1:19-20), becoming completely corrupt and callous (Matt. 13:14-15, Heb. 6:4-6).

Paul listed some sins he implied genuine Christians would not typically commit (in 1Cor. 6:9-10), saying: “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”

Apparently, although a new Christian might commit such sins occasionally, it is inconceivable (because antithetical to NT teaching) that a mature Christian would commit them so typically that the person could be classified as an adulterer, for example (1John 3:6). Atheists might try to practice the “Golden Rule”, but the key issue for them on judgment day will be explaining what good reason they had for rejecting God rather than glorifying Him as the One who determines what is good/golden.
 
the cross is to be preached. The Gospel is to be preached to all. And if only those who go to a church are those who have already heard the message no new people come in that is a dead church. Because God adds to the church those he wants to save. once you are saved you need to be discipled then sent. Or do something for the kingdom.

I understand your thought, but not one person in scripture is commanded to go to a local church to hear the gospel. The church is supposed to go out into the world and preach the gospel to unbelievers. Those who believe the preaching of the cross are to attend a local church assembly to grow and mature in their faith through the preaching and teaching of God's word.

I do agree that every once in a while, the pastor should inform the members that he will be emphasizing the gospel at a particular service and inviting the lost would by a goal.
 
I understand your thought, but not one person in scripture is commanded to go to a local church to hear the gospel. The church is supposed to go out into the world and preach the gospel to unbelievers. Those who believe the preaching of the cross are to attend a local church assembly to grow and mature in their faith through the preaching and teaching of God's word.

I do agree that every once in a while, the pastor should inform the members that he will be emphasizing the gospel at a particular service and inviting the lost would by a goal.

You are correct. The Great Commission is done outside of the wall of the church. Also, the application of preaching has changed. Paul did not have phone yet when I prison, he sent Letters to the church. Peter did not have Internet or Wi-Fi smart phones as they are very much used for everything today. People can tune in to a service anywhere at any time. I think the Gospel is needed more now than ever because the church many don't even know the milk of the word. I believe in a Full Gospel :)
 
Therefore all are sinners, saved or not.

No, there's a difference between falling short of God's absolute perfection (making honest mistakes) verses living after the flesh doing things God's Word calls out as being sinful behavior.

There is a sin that is not unto death (death being separation from God)

1 John 5:17,18
All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Those born of God keep themselves IN Christ and aren't enraging in sinful behavior that are sins unto death (separation from God)

That doesn't mean they are perfect in the literal sense as sometimes that could forget to do something or drops something on the floor or other similar mistakes that are the result of not being perfect in the literal sense (Jesus never made any mistakes at all)




But a saved sinner..would sin less, because of the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit.

I see, so when the child molester gets saved - he molests fewer children than before and God is accepting of him as they guy continues living in grievous sin?

What about the rapist that gets saved? It's all good as long as he rapes a few less women each week?
 
Yes. No one achieves moral perfection in this life (Phil. 3:12),

That's a false interpretation. The ESV is quite faulty

We should in fact be perfect in conscience which is not knowingly or willing be doing things we know are sin or things God's Word says are sin.

Those who do not have a clean conscience before the Lord are unclean because they are still doing things they know they should not be doing (James 4:17 ) or things God says are sin in His Word.