Synagogue of Satan: Grieving my ignorance

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Anybody else experiencing grief related to religious disappointment?

I, like many pre-trib Christians, began to get excited about the possibility that this year’s appointed feasts could be the days we have been waiting for. I was working through my rapture remorse by spending time studying the Scriptures.

While rereading Revelation I stumbled over the phrase “synagogue of Satan” in verses 9 of both Chapters 2 and 3. “Those who claim to be Jews but are not,” is all that is really said about them. My daughter just married a Jewish Christian who attends a non-messianic reformed Jewish synagogue, so I stumbled pretty hard on these verses. I prayed for an answer to what this phrase meant and soon thereafter got more than I bargained for. I learned there is actually a large sect of Judaism whose deity is Lucifer.

Apparently, some of the ancient Israelites brought knowledge of the Egyptian pantheon with them when Moses led them out of captivity. Later, in the Babylonian captivity, they learned a few new tricks from the heathens there. It turns out, when Jesus was calling the Pharisees a “brood of snakes” and accused them of doing the will of their father the devil (John 8:44), He wasn’t just being figurative. It turns out Stephen even called them out (Acts 7:43) while they were stoning him, by quoting Amos 5:26-27. He mentioned their idols and the Star of Remphan they had taken up. It was never David’s Star.

I always thought Jews were just God’s chosen people who hadn’t turned the page from Malachi to Matthew yet, sort of Christians minus Christ. That’s why we’re supposed to support them — sort of walk alongside our fellow sons of Abraham until they get a clue. I learned I couldn’t have been more mistaken.

I had heard of a small group of “Jewish mystics” who lived early on in history, but like the Gnostics, I figured they were all gone. I heard they were simply trying to find a way to god that didn’t require the temple, which was destroyed in 70 AD, and their answer was witchcraft and Baal worship, just like it had been when Moses took too long on the mountaintop. I was close, but about their extinction I was very wrong!

I was shown a documentary on Kabbalah*, the Jewish mysticism that has roots in Babylon, Egypt, and even the Garden of Eden. It is the Luciferian religion of dark magic, which seeks to bring about the Antichrist messiah by encouraging sin, turning humans into androgynes, and breeding or manufacturing a type of golem (lifeless shell) that can be used for demon inhabitation, like the herd of pigs at Decapolis. Kabbalism is the basis of all sorts of secret societies, usually involving sex magic, and an increasing pursuit of the Lightbringer, Lucifer. From it come the Illuminati, Freemasons, the Templars, Rosicrucians, Thelema, and all manner of wicked arts and covens. Those who don’t know it by the name Kabbalah call the book “the Zohar.”

Surely the number of Jews who follow the Zohar is small and insignificant. Right? Wrong!!

At my daughter’s wedding, the reformed Jewish rabbi, announced that, “the Jewish mystic, the Baal Shem Tov, once said, ‘From every human being, there rises a light that reaches straight to heaven, and when two souls that are destined to be together find each other, their streams of light glow together and a single, brighter light goes forth from their united being.’”

My daughter was being married by a mystic — a witch! In the weeks before, my baby girl had asked me to keep Jesus out of my wedding toasts and talk, citing the reason for the objection as the many who would be in attendance that would be offended. How this generation hates to offend, even with their own testimony! My wife and I met with her privately, to assure ourselves she was still following her faith in Jesus, and to discreetly try to get Christ back in her marriage ceremony. It didn’t work, but I figured a Jewish rabbi was better than a court notary. Wrong again!

I looked into this Zohar. It turns out to be one of the main Talmudic texts! All Judaism studies and teaches this. For those of you who don’t know, the Tanakh (Old Testament) is made up of the first five books (Pentateuch) of Torah (Law), then the Nevi'im (Prophets), and also the Ketuvim (Writings — like Psalms and Proverbs). We know those from our own Bible. However there are volumes upon volumes of Talmud, the rabbinic writings, mostly commentary about how to follow the Torah. Christians and Jews generally agree that the Old Testament is holy and comes from God, our Heavenly Father. The Talmud, though, is formalized Antichrist dogma, at one point even suggesting that Jesus is boiling in feces in Hell for falsely claiming to be the messiah. What fellowship can we Christians have with that kind of sentiment?

The reason I put this thread in the conspiracy section is because of what I found when I went down this Kabbalah rabbit hole. It isn’t merely a few rock stars singing satanic lyrics, or Aleister Crowley calling for a sexual revolution, but goes much deeper. The evidence may even be in your pocket.

American currency is fraught with Kabbalist symbols, and sigils of the dark craft are even in our architecture and civil engineering. Lady Liberty herself, a construct of three Freemasons, was actually fashioned after a Renaissance painting of Lucifer the Lightbearer to hail those-in-the-know to the New World Order, celebrated right under your nose on every legal tender: "Novus ordo seclorum" (A new order of the ages).

It is not so far off or far fetched as watching the movie National Treasure, starring Nick Cage, would lead you to believe. It is right before your eyes. The Pharohs still rule the masses. Just look at who owns the note on your house, who gets rich feeding you toxins then manufactures cures to take the rest of your paycheck. Want to understand such current events as the French royalty, the Russian war, the pedophelia trade circles that seem to always include the rich, powerful, influential, or oddly beautiful? Look no further than the vampiric practices of the Kabbalah.

How far does it go? American left or right is still two wings of the same dirty bird, being led by the nose with Kabbalist capitalists feasting off the toil, trauma, and lives of the class of pawns and slaves.

Two months ago, I was blowing my shofar, happily supporting Israel and filling my ears with messianic Jewish podcasts, emulating those who use proper Jewish names for Jesus and God. Since then I found out the attempt to get us to abandon the mighty name of Jesus was a Kabbalist trick to get us to substitute the name of a being that is not Christ, and the Tetragrammaton (YHWH) and all its derivatives are not a representation of the true God but of the demons associated with Satan.

So I’ve lost a lot this fall, and I’m not sure how to properly grieve. The first punch was just my fault for getting my hopes up. I still insist we are in our last days. We are told to be watchful for the season, even though no one knows the day or the hour. The rest of the body blows of what I have lost has been related to the delusion that the world and people around me are basically good. Ephesians 6:12 and John 10:10 really depict a bloody, gory, horrible reality to which we have been deaf, blind, and dumb.

So I come seeking like minds with whom I can grieve. When I met with my pastor, I found out he doesn’t even believe in the rapture, so I would have lost him in my first paragraph. Most evangelistic Christians are of the same mind I was two months ago, and so would likely label me antisemitic rather than grieve with me. I’m not though! I still believe the best thing one could be is a Jewish Christian, since they are naturally part of a branch into which I can only be grafted (Romans 11). I bless Israel and pray for Jerusalem. I hate evil though, and all of the evil designs of the enemy of the Most High God of Heaven. How could I not? And how can I do anything but stand when the god of the air (Ephesians 2:1-2), the god of this age (2 Cor. 4:3-4), the dragon, that serpent of old, the devil, Satan (Revelation 20:2) is so busy seeking whom he may devour (1 Peter 5:8). It’s like he knows that his time is short (Revelation 12:12b) and he is playing fourth-quarter ball.

——

“For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6‬:‭12‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭10‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

*Kabbalah: the Religion of the Serpent, by @1benbornagain,
 
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@2fruition ,

I can understand your grief.
You've invested your life in your precious daughter.

You've learned the truth of the antichrist religion of the synagogue of Satan. Jesus preached against them and has revealed His Father's will.

Remember that the Holy Spirit is often grieved too. Perhaps this will being us a bit of comfort from the true Comforter Who can identify with us. He has invested in the lives of the lost to do whatever possible to lead them from Hell to a new destiny in Christ. That takes a lot of love.
We who are saved believers in Christ, Heaven bound do also grieve Him when we sin.
We can identify with the suffering of Christ Who suffered beyond our comprehension for all of us to be given the gift of everlasting life.

Thank you for the documentary .
I will listen when able . I'm about ready for bed and have an incredible amount of work to do, but will listen when able.
Here is one I've learned about the Hebrew Roots Movement from.
It may be of interests considering your post. Keep in mind that there's not much narration that distinguishes the good teachers from the Hebrew ones. That makes it somewhat confusing occasionally, so you might need to listen carefully and go back to relisten a minute. If you have questions, please note the time stamp so I can find it to respond.
I will pray for the Lord to comfort you, your wife and bring your daughter close to Christ.


 
Thanks. I will look at it. Nice to know I wasn’t booted for my writing. It is good to hear I am not alone in the knowledge I have received.

Your Documentary @109:35:00+ begins talking about the Jewish plan to destroy the non- Jews.
Then it gives some of the code terms. One I don't think it mentioned was Romans, although a rabi(?) was recorded talking about a Roman empire that never completely ended and revived in USA if I recall correctly.
Recently I listened to a dictator made a billionaire from USA tax $. He said they would destroy Rome, code for the superpower that made him wealthy from the poor Christians deceived into believing they are blessing Abraham's seed. They might as well hang a rabbits foot from their rear view mirror for "good luck" because God has not promised to make them wealthy throwing more money at the enemy of our Lord. They are too superstitious to quote Paul to the pagans.
His name is Netan Yahoo (sp).

I found that interesting, however the rabbid rabi practices had to be skipped over.
It is a shame to speak of those things done of them in secret.
This should be a warning to others misled into the Hebrew Roots Jewish religion that has infiltrated modern churches as it did Paul's churches after he invested much of his life establishing them.

It sounds like you once attended an assembly like that. Thank you for the warning of how destructive it can be.
 
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Make no mistake. I did not create that documentary, but was merely informed by it. I had no idea what I was supporting until I did this study in prayer.
 
Anybody else experiencing grief related to religious disappointment?

I, like many pre-trib Christians, began to get excited about the possibility that this year’s appointed feasts could be the days we have been waiting for. I was working through my rapture remorse by spending time studying the Scriptures.

While rereading Revelation I stumbled over the phrase “synagogue of Satan” in verses 9 of both Chapters 2 and 3. “Those who claim to be Jews but are not,” is all that is really said about them. My daughter just married a Jewish Christian who attends a non-messianic reformed Jewish synagogue, so I stumbled pretty hard on these verses. I prayed for an answer to what this phrase meant and soon thereafter got more than I bargained for. I learned there is actually a large sect of Judaism whose deity is Lucifer.

Apparently, some of the ancient Israelites brought knowledge of the Egyptian pantheon with them when Moses led them out of captivity. Later, in the Babylonian captivity, they learned a few new tricks from the heathens there. It turns out, when Jesus was calling the Pharisees a “brood of snakes” and accused them of doing the will of their father the devil (John 8:44), He wasn’t just being figurative. It turns out Stephen even called them out (Acts 7:43) while they were stoning him, by quoting Amos 5:26-27. He mentioned their idols and the Star of Remphan they had taken up. It was never David’s Star.

I always thought Jews were just God’s chosen people who hadn’t turned the page from Malachi to Matthew yet, sort of Christians minus Christ. That’s why we’re supposed to support them — sort of walk alongside our fellow sons of Abraham until they get a clue. I learned I couldn’t have been more mistaken.

I had heard of a small group of “Jewish mystics” who lived early on in history, but like the Gnostics, I figured they were all gone. I heard they were simply trying to find a way to god that didn’t require the temple, which was destroyed in 70 AD, and their answer was witchcraft and Baal worship, just like it had been when Moses took too long on the mountaintop. I was close, but about their extinction I was very wrong!

I was shown a documentary on Kabbalah*, the Jewish mysticism that has roots in Babylon, Egypt, and even the Garden of Eden. It is the Luciferian religion of dark magic, which seeks to bring about the Antichrist messiah by encouraging sin, turning humans into androgynes, and breeding or manufacturing a type of golem (lifeless shell) that can be used for demon inhabitation, like the herd of pigs at Decapolis. Kabbalism is the basis of all sorts of secret societies, usually involving sex magic, and an increasing pursuit of the Lightbringer, Lucifer. From it come the Illuminati, Freemasons, the Templars, Rosicrucians, Thelema, and all manner of wicked arts and covens. Those who don’t know it by the name Kabbalah call the book “the Zohar.”

Surely the number of Jews who follow the Zohar is small and insignificant. Right? Wrong!!

At my daughter’s wedding, the reformed Jewish rabbi, announced that, “the Jewish mystic, the Baal Shem Tov, once said, ‘From every human being, there rises a light that reaches straight to heaven, and when two souls that are destined to be together find each other, their streams of light glow together and a single, brighter light goes forth from their united being.’”

My daughter was being married by a mystic — a witch! In the weeks before, my baby girl had asked me to keep Jesus out of my wedding toasts and talk, citing the reason for the objection as the many who would be in attendance that would be offended. How this generation hates to offend, even with their own testimony! My wife and I met with her privately, to assure ourselves she was still following her faith in Jesus, and to discreetly try to get Christ back in her marriage ceremony. It didn’t work, but I figured a Jewish rabbi was better than a court notary. Wrong again!

I looked into this Zohar. It turns out to be one of the main Talmudic texts! All Judaism studies and teaches this. For those of you who don’t know, the Tanakh (Old Testament) is made up of the first five books (Pentateuch) of Torah (Law), then the Nevi'im (Prophets), and also the Ketuvim (Writings — like Psalms and Proverbs). We know those from our own Bible. However there are volumes upon volumes of Talmud, the rabbinic writings, mostly commentary about how to follow the Torah. Christians and Jews generally agree that the Old Testament is holy and comes from God, our Heavenly Father. The Talmud, though, is formalized Antichrist dogma, at one point even suggesting that Jesus is boiling in feces in Hell for falsely claiming to be the messiah. What fellowship can we Christians have with that kind of sentiment?

The reason I put this thread in the conspiracy section is because of what I found when I went down this Kabbalah rabbit hole. It isn’t merely a few rock stars singing satanic lyrics, or Aleister Crowley calling for a sexual revolution, but goes much deeper. The evidence may even be in your pocket.

American currency is fraught with Kabbalist symbols, and sigils of the dark craft are even in our architecture and civil engineering. Lady Liberty herself, a construct of three Freemasons, was actually fashioned after a Renaissance painting of Lucifer the Lightbearer to hail those-in-the-know to the New World Order, celebrated right under your nose on every legal tender: "Novus ordo seclorum" (A new order of the ages).

It is not so far off or far fetched as watching the movie National Treasure, starring Nick Cage, would lead you to believe. It is right before your eyes. The Pharohs still rule the masses. Just look at who owns the note on your house, who gets rich feeding you toxins then manufactures cures to take the rest of your paycheck. Want to understand such current events as the French royalty, the Russian war, the pedophelia trade circles that seem to always include the rich, powerful, influential, or oddly beautiful? Look no further than the vampiric practices of the Kabbalah.

How far does it go? American left or right is still two wings of the same dirty bird, being led by the nose with Kabbalist capitalists feasting off the toil, trauma, and lives of the class of pawns and slaves.

Two months ago, I was blowing my shofar, happily supporting Israel and filling my ears with messianic Jewish podcasts, emulating those who use proper Jewish names for Jesus and God. Since then I found out the attempt to get us to abandon the mighty name of Jesus was a Kabbalist trick to get us to substitute the name of a being that is not Christ, and the Tetragrammaton (YHWH) and all its derivatives are not a representation of the true God but of the demons associated with Satan.

So I’ve lost a lot this fall, and I’m not sure how to properly grieve. The first punch was just my fault for getting my hopes up. I still insist we are in our last days. We are told to be watchful for the season, even though no one knows the day or the hour. The rest of the body blows of what I have lost has been related to the delusion that the world and people around me are basically good. Ephesians 6:12 and John 10:10 really depict a bloody, gory, horrible reality to which we have been deaf, blind, and dumb.

So I come seeking like minds with whom I can grieve. When I met with my pastor, I found out he doesn’t even believe in the rapture, so I would have lost him in my first paragraph. Most evangelistic Christians are of the same mind I was two months ago, and so would likely label me antisemitic rather than grieve with me. I’m not though! I still believe the best thing one could be is a Jewish Christian, since they are naturally part of a branch into which I can only be grafted (Romans 11). I bless Israel and pray for Jerusalem. I hate evil though, and all of the evil designs of the enemy of the Most High God of Heaven. How could I not? And how can I do anything but stand when the god of the air (Ephesians 2:1-2), the god of this age (2 Cor. 4:3-4), the dragon, that serpent of old, the devil, Satan (Revelation 20:2) is so busy seeking whom he may devour (1 Peter 5:8). It’s like he knows that his time is short (Revelation 12:12b) and he is playing fourth-quarter ball.

——

“For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6‬:‭12‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭10‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

*Kabbalah: the Religion of the Serpent, by @1benbornagain,
It is far better to ask people about what they believe than to blindly make assumptions about what they believe based on a antisemitic conspiracy theory video on the internet. Many Jews have never read part of the Talmud or Zohar much less everything in them, so it is unsafe assumption to read a quote out of context from the Talmud or the Zohar and assume that every Jew agrees with it, The Talmud is more of a flow of thought that contains debates about how to obey the Torah that is more about teaching how to think than what to think. Some things in the Talmud are included because they are wrong or because it a a notable exception to a commonly held view and some things are considered to be outdated. The Talmud derives from the Tanakh many of the same things that are taught in the NT, so it is part of the same world. There is much in the Talmud that a Christian could agree is a correct interpretation of the Torah even if they don't think that the Torah should be obeyed. The Talmud also needs to be understood in the context that Jews have faced much persecution from Gentiles. The quote from the Baal Shem Tov does not seem particularly satanic.
 
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Let me see if I understand you. According to you:
• The Talmud is a mixture of truth and falsehoods, so those who study it cannot really rely on it but should be given the benefit of the doubt, because their truths are individual and apart from their religious writings.
• The reference to a mystic lauding the heavenly luminosity of soulmates doesn’t seem out of place to you.

Thank you for making my point. There is no fellowship of believers with unbelievers just as there is no fellowship of light with darkness (2 Cor 6:14).
 
So I come seeking like minds with whom I can grieve. When I met with my pastor, I found out he doesn’t even believe in the rapture, so I would have lost him in my first paragraph. Most evangelistic Christians are of the same mind I was two months ago, and so would likely label me antisemitic rather than grieve with me.
Yeah, it's a really delicate balance, I think. Some of the conspiracy theories about "jews" are true, some are false, and some are just unverifiable. For example, there's no actual archeological evidence or historical reference for the Star of Remphan/Rephaim other than the bible- nothing describes it's appearance; so there's no actual proof that the so-called "star of david" is really the star of rephaim. I know that the Israeli's are nationalistic; but I don't think they actually idolize their flag. Maybe some weirdos do. The Israel topic is full of nuance that makes ignorance the default condition- and that ignorance gets exploited big time by both people with Israeli nationalistic motives and antisemitic motives.
 
I don’t think it is a delicate balance. I think we, who know Truth, should be ashamed of ourselves for flirting with falsehood. We have lived the world so much that we developed fanaticism, partisanism, tribalism, and it is all fake! We are supposed to be citizens of Heaven, pledging allegiance to Christ alone, not a flag, not an ass or elephant, not a University mascot, not an NFL or Premier League team, but Christ alone.
If we think that the decision whether to serve Christ or His enemies is a gray area then we are not Christians at all.
 
I don’t think it is a delicate balance. I think we, who know Truth, should be ashamed of ourselves for flirting with falsehood. We have lived the world so much that we developed fanaticism, partisanism, tribalism, and it is all fake! We are supposed to be citizens of Heaven, pledging allegiance to Christ alone, not a flag, not an ass or elephant, not a University mascot, not an NFL or Premier League team, but Christ alone.
If we think that the decision whether to serve Christ or His enemies is a gray area then we are not Christians at all.

The synagogue of satan is a reference to people in the first century.
 
I am suffering the shame of my allegiances, fanaticism, tribalism, and even my product loyalties, because they all represent the bad kind of loving “the world and the things in it” (1 John 2:15-16).

I am giving up my support of anything but God and His messiah, Jesus. As a man who grew up with an American flag on his bedroom wall where most boys had posters of Charlie’s Angels, that’s a big loss. For a guy whose biggest hobby was watching movies, to repent from Hollywood’s mind-numbing manipulation is huge. To be a scientist who finally recognizes that the basic tenets of Science are lies and sorcery, that is huge. For an ecumenically minded minister of the Church to finally recognize that the Church itself is drunk on lies, and some big parts of it are actually being produced and directed by Satan himself, it’s huge!

Where can I go to find someone else who understands that everything but God’s spiritual Truth is false? Even those who know are so quiet that the only perception is that we few are religious kooks, antisemitic, anti-American, or somehow socially leprous.

The one of us who speaks up in a church committee against participation in Halloween is a stumbling block. The one who stands for Biblical family gets accused of homophobia, even among the church. So I am even grieving my relationships lost by my refusal to play in gray areas.

“Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭3‬:‭8‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/114/php.3.8.NKJV

Paul said it was a very real loss, even though everything turned to rubbish when he came to the full knowledge and understanding of Christ. Anybody else recently listened to everything to this realization? That’s who I’m looking for. The rest of you, please wake up or scroll to another post. I’ve stopped tolerating spiritual mediocrity. It now makes me want to spew from my mouth too (Revelation 3:16).
 
I am suffering the shame of my allegiances, fanaticism, tribalism, and even my product loyalties, because they all represent the bad kind of loving “the world and the things in it” (1 John 2:15-16).

I am giving up my support of anything but God and His messiah, Jesus. As a man who grew up with an American flag on his bedroom wall where most boys had posters of Charlie’s Angels, that’s a big loss. For a guy whose biggest hobby was watching movies, to repent from Hollywood’s mind-numbing manipulation is huge. To be a scientist who finally recognizes that the basic tenets of Science are lies and sorcery, that is huge. For an ecumenically minded minister of the Church to finally recognize that the Church itself is drunk on lies, and some big parts of it are actually being produced and directed by Satan himself, it’s huge!

Where can I go to find someone else who understands that everything but God’s spiritual Truth is false? Even those who know are so quiet that the only perception is that we few are religious kooks, antisemitic, anti-American, or somehow socially leprous.

The one of us who speaks up in a church committee against participation in Halloween is a stumbling block. The one who stands for Biblical family gets accused of homophobia, even among the church. So I am even grieving my relationships lost by my refusal to play in gray areas.



Paul said it was a very real loss, even though everything turned to rubbish when he came to the full knowledge and understanding of Christ. Anybody else recently listened to everything to this realization? That’s who I’m looking for. The rest of you, please wake up or scroll to another post. I’ve stopped tolerating spiritual mediocrity. It now makes me want to spew from my mouth too (Revelation 3:16).

Those "aha" moments/revelations are useful, but be careful that you do not swing into a different direction of legalism, bitterness and vilifying the lost.
 
I am a missionary. I serve the lost to bring them to Jesus. The Fourth World seems to have a better grasp of reality than the West. Family first. Food is food. No one has time for entertainment. Their reality is nearly falsehood-free, except that they are told hard work will be rewarded with prosperity, mostly by visiting crusaders lying in the name of Jesus.

It is not the lost I’m vilifying, but the thief who seeks to numb and dumb the saved.
 
I don’t think it is a delicate balance.
Well, it kind of is... because if you go around saying that the Star of David is the Star of Rephaim; and that's proven false by some archaeological discovery, then it looks like you had a political agenda rather than a real spiritual one.
We have lived the world so much that we developed fanaticism, partisanism, tribalism, and it is all fake!
Much of it is fake but not all. You yourself said "family first"... that's literally what tribalism is; which is fine as long as you mean "family first after God. Nationalism is real too; and biblical when it's not taken to a fanatical extent. Even product loyalties can be legitimate if you're talking about the result of genuine interpersonal business relationships.
For an ecumenically minded minister of the Church to finally recognize that the Church itself is drunk on lies, and some big parts of it are actually being produced and directed by Satan himself, it’s huge!
That's why I'm not ecumenically-minded; a lot of "churches" are actually just amalgamations of heathenism with Christian iconography.
Paul said it was a very real loss, even though everything turned to rubbish when he came to the full knowledge and understanding of Christ.
The point is that if you don't have Christ then everything else is worthless; because you're lost. But if you've gained Christ, those things become tools, they don't remain garbage. It's like if you had furniture but no house to put it in... it's worthless to you; but if you have the house, you don't just throw out the furniture because the furniture isn't part of the house.
 
You are not alone. There are many others who have such knowledge concerning the true nature of the world we live in. Unfortunately, there are not nearly as many others as need be and should be - especially, in the Christian realm... :(
Thanks, Gary!
 
I, like many pre-trib Christians, began to get excited about the possibility that this year’s appointed feasts could be the days we have been waiting for. I was working through my rapture remorse by spending time studying the Scriptures.

Sounds like it is time to revisit your futurist eschatology. ;)
 
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Thanks for kicking me while I’m down. You couldn’t just have scrolled on to a post you like?

Why do you see it that way, these moments are for our good, we revisit and draw closer to God and what He is trying to show us.
It is a good thing, many of us have gone through this.
 
You are not alone. There are many others who have such knowledge concerning the true nature of the world we live in. Unfortunately, there are not nearly as many others as need be and should be - especially, in the Christian realm... :(
Yes, the Bible says the whole world lies in the evil one and yet people still don't get that. We are told repeatedly throughout the Bible that we are in a spiritual war and yet how many are oblivious to that as well.

A great example for all to see of this Satanic realm and their reach is to watch King Charles coronation, and also his opening of the 2022 games and also of opening ceremonies at the Olympics, half time shows at the Super Bowl, award ceremonies at the grammies, etc.

Burning man is an annual event for those in the occult and witchcraft.

Then there is Epstein Island. Clearly a place where they were involved in pagan worship. Revelation 17:1-2 describes this place saying that we would see the whore of Babylon (CIA?) that causes the kings of the earth to commit fornication and get drunk on the wine of her fornication.

The proper response is prayer.

We now have Jeffrey Epsteins contacts made public. If you are burdened to enter into the spiritual warfare pray over the names on that list.

This is the list of contacts in Epstein's contacts.

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1391321/dl?inline

Lord Jesus I lift up the names of those on this contact list for Jeffrey Epstein. Open their eyes to see they are bound in sin. Pour out your indignation on them and let your burning anger overtake them for they have exalted themselves and rebelled against your Holy word.


So Lord we pray that You would arise, Your enemies would be scattered and those that hate You would flee. May they be driven away as smoke is driven away from the fire and as wax melts before the fire. May the wicked perish before You because You are the father to the fatherless and you are the protector of widows. Father we pray for the prisoners of sin, that You would lead them out by Your Son, the Savior of the world. And may all those in rebellion against you dwell in a parched land, may the kings of the armies flee, may they flee!


We ask that you remember Your word that You would strike the heads of the enemies that walk in their guilty ways.


Lord they have lured many into their traps and so we pray that their own table would become a trap and a snare to them. They tell others peace when they are plotting deceit and so let their peace become a trap to them. Let their eyes be darkened so that they cannot see and let their loins tremble continuously. Pour out your indignation on them and let your burning anger overtake them. May their camp be desolation, as they have done may it be done to them. May the accusers of the brethren be put to an open shame, and may those who seek our hurt be covered with scorn and disgrace. Amen.


All these many things I ask and pray in the name of Jesus Christ, the Lord of Lords and the King of Kings. He is the one to whom every knee must bow. Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us, to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.


I ask that this prayer list be kept under the wings of the Lord, for You are our shield and rampart. Keep this list hidden from the enemy, within the hedge of protection. I pray and decree that there will be no retaliation, backlash or interference by the enemy in any way known to God's existence because God exists everywhere made on me, my family, or the Christianchat forum because of these prayers. I also pray that we would be kept under the blood of Jesus Christ, protected from retaliation and from monitoring spirits according to the Lord’s will and good pleasure.
 
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