As Close To The Devil In Example As You Can Get.

[ResidentAlien]

I was thinking this morning during our family devotion time about trump and I came to the conclusion that he is an example of Satan about as close as you can get and here are my reasons for coming to that conclusion.

1. Trump constantly lies about any and everything. One of the latest examples is that the ballroom he is building would be next to the east wing of the White House and we all know by now that he has torn it down.

John 8:44 (NIV): "When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

2. He doesn't feel the need to ask God for forgiveness.

Satan went beyond not wanting to ask for forgiveness as he wanted God's position.
Isaiah 14:12-14 and Ezekiel 28:13-17 "I will ascend into heaven; I will exalt my throne above the stars of God... I will be like the Most High". This desire for power and authority over God led to a rebellion and his subsequent fall from heaven.

3. He has no regard for the 10 commandments. Adultery, lying, murder, etc. Cheating on all of his wives, killing people off the coast of Venezuela, putting immigrants in prisons/death camps in the US and other countries.

Satan has no regard for God's laws.
Daniel 11:37, where a figure "magnifies himself above all" gods and shows "no regard for the gods of his fathers," and 2 Thessalonians 2:4, which describes the "man of lawlessness" exalting himself above "every so-called god or object of worship".

4. No empathy for those less fortunate as in people with disabilities, families needing food assistance, lower income families needing help with healthcare.

Satan doesn't care about us either and hates us because Jesus died to save us.

While no single verse states "Satan hates humanity," the Bible describes Satan's hatred and animosity toward humanity, particularly in verses like Revelation 12:12-17, which speaks of his great wrath because his time is short and his war against believers. John 8:44 connects Satan to murder and lies, saying, "He was a murderer from the beginning" and "has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him," and Genesis 3:15 foreshadows an ongoing "enmity" between the serpent (Satan) and humanity.

So there you have it my thoughts this morning and it pains me to see how far America/Americans have fallen to support someone who's character is so closely aligned with Satan.

The Donald has been successful in brainwashing many professing Christians that the end justifies the means. But the New Testament teaches the opposite: "And why not say, 'Let us do evil that good may come'?—as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their condemnation is just." The end does not justify the means.

 

[PennEd]

I was thinking this morning during our family devotion time about trump

That's great!
That means you spent a good amount of time praying for him?
That's what the Bible tells you to do.

he is an example of Satan

EVERYONE is an example of satan, until we are born again.
This is why, amongst MANY other Biblical reasons, you should be praying for your President.

1. Trump constantly lies about any and everything.

I'm not sure if you deliberately omit the MAMMOTH lies that Democrats in general, and past Democrat Presidents, spew every day on purpose, or you truly cognitively don't think they do.

You do see the massive hypocrisy there?
PLEASE point out similar posts you have made about Democrats.


Bottom line: President Trump is a flawed human being, with many fleshly weaknesses.
However I could post VOLUMES of accounts where he has helped the lowly and needy. MUCH more so than Joe Biden or Barack Hussein Obama.

 

[PennEd]

I am not as young as I used to be and it is just the lack of empathy for the weaker, older, working class

Elaborate. How has Trump not had empathy toward the weaker, older, working class?

so many Republican Americans just seem to have that lack of caring for people that really have those needs

I'm sorry, but this is really a disgusting lie.

Is it a lie because you don't know it's a lie?

You said earlier it doesn't matter.

with me and Trumps first term I kept quiet waiting for the 4 years to be up

This was from a very cursory search. You just said you kept quiet for Trump's 4 years in office. Does THIS qualify as a lie? Note the date.


JesusLives
Senior Member
Oct 11, 201314,5962,207113




Nov 25, 2019
#1,371
Ghoti2 said:
As a man, all I find decent about Trump is his honesty...…. Well, HIS brand of crude, insulting honesty.

But his policies are the best I have seen in my lifetime. And I love the money I now have that I never saw before he took office. So, of course I will vote for him again. (Sorry, Dar. )
But, I do wish he was less thin-skinned and could learn to control his mouth..... even a little. He is truly his own worst enemy.

JesusLives:
"Don't think I can stand 4 more years of this guy I might have to move further away than Tennessee....if there are 4 more years. Don't the republicans or the dems have anyone better to offer up for president?"

just bulldozing America/Americans.

Again. Elaborate please.

How has he "bulldozed" American citizens?

Aug 29, 2019
#680
Personally I look forward to the days when he is not in the White House and we don't hear his name mentioned in the news ever again. I've heard the Trumpet blow about as much as I can handle....

 

[Gideon300]

The world is triggered because he's brash and direct and tells it like it is.
They prefer a smooth talker, devil tonged statesman usually .... like Obama who went around the world on his first term to apologize to the world about the existence of the USA.
That's what the foreigners like.

That's leftist, woke, progressive ideology of the worst kind. Sure, I prefer Mr Trump to any Democrat. In this era, that is not saying much.

 

[Cameron143]

That would be your job or critique to do as mine was on Trump. Joe Biden nor Kamala Harris are convicted felons, constant liars as far as I know from public records.

I was just trying to understand the motivation for your thread, and to see if it was spiritual in nature. Since it clearly is not, and because I know others here will push back against your reasoning, I'll leave y'all to it. Just a thought though...the planned and executed assassinations of millions of babies and the destruction of the family unit and the mutilation of children's intimate parts are not a good look.

 

[pinebeach]

I don't like everything Trump does and he talks too much. But please, this is ridiculous considering the 4 years under the autopen.

I was thinking this morning during our family devotion time about trump and I came to the conclusion that he is an example of Satan about as close as you can get and here are my reasons for coming to that conclusion.

Sure have your reasons. You can have 'reasons' for anything, but when an obvious democrat (yourself) goes on a bit of rant about Trump, and apparently has TDS, it is just more democrat 'I drank the cool-aid'. We see it on TV, youtube, podcasts etc any time we want to have a look. Got it. Message loud and clear. You hate Trump; what else is new.

Tell you what though, those are your words and your feelings. I do not respect the fact you choose to overlook the 4 yrs under the last admin. That, actually makes your opinion not worth much since you choose your own truth.

 

[pinebeach]

Believing in your own lie doesn't make it the truth.

Funny you should say that

 

[pinebeach]

The Donald has been successful in brainwashing many professing Christians that the end justifies the means. But the New Testament teaches the opposite: "And why not say, 'Let us do evil that good may come'?—as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their condemnation is just." The end does not justify the means.

What ends in particular did you have in mind? Closing the border maybe? smh Kicking criminal illegals back to where they came from? Or perhaps caring about the Christians being slaughtered in Nigeria? oh how awful. how dare he

Just love the way some people say things with nothing to back up what they say. Trump is brainwashing. Is he though? How about the democrats using an old man with cognitive issues, as a front for their desire to maintain power at all costs and hang the American people.

Well guess what. Their extravagant lies were duly noted and voila, they lost the election and you folks just cannot get over it.

 

[lisatanner]

dont they all lie.

 

[pinebeach]

Apparently wickedness is in vogue with the left to a large extent. Yeah that goes for you to heishere or there or somewhere. You seem to look for my posts and put your little disagree or zzzz or sad face but you don't have the wherewithal to actually WRITE something.

Know why that is? You act on emotions, you don't like me because I am not a democrat (mind you not Repub either) and really cannot think of anything to counter what I wrote because you know what I wrote is true. So you do a little emotional emoticon. I guess I trigger you. LOL!

 

[pinebeach]

dont they all lie.

Everyone lies. The Bible says so. Tell me though, would you like to live beside an illegal serial rapist let in by the open border policies of the last illegal admin?

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Again my post was about Trump not other people.

Mmm that's the issue, it's always about Trump. Christians had no issue voting Clinton in a second time.Christians had no trouble voting in Obama as @Magenta mentioned, or Biden. We can play the same game with all of these people.

 

[Magenta]

Mmm that's the issue, it's always about Trump. Christians had no issue voting Clinton in a second time.Christians had no trouble voting in Obama as @Magenta mentioned, or Biden. We can play the same game with all of these people.

"That depends on how you define the word is."

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

So why aren't you defending trump?

I did, reread what I said.

When do you expect your invitation to dance there since we need it so bad?

Did you get an invitation from Obama to play a round of anything with him?? Presidents have always made their mark on the WH. Trump is the only one the press and Dems have complained about.

Why the deflection? I was talking about Trump.

It's not a deflection it's a comparison. It's always about Trump. Since he came down the escalator some people can't get a grip.

It would be assumed that we don't believe that cheating is o.k. no matter party right? This was about Trump you can post your own Democrat cheating, lying post.

No you're saying no one is as close to Satan as Trump is, and I'm pointing out hypocrisy in that statement.

The real question is it o.k. to murder anyone off another countries coast? Drug dealers or fishermen?
Killing drug dealers off the coast.
Are you positive it is only drug dealers? Back it with details I'd be interested.

Killing drug dealers off the coast isn't murder, it's justice. You can be sure they'd be screaming if fishermen were hit and the press would never shut up. It's drug dealers and the less there are of them the better.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia not so sure he was an illegal.

Yes, he was and was trafficking other human beings among other things.

You must live in a special part of the country as our prices keep climbing here.

Your gas is climbing higher and groceries than under Biden and inflation?? Do you live in Alaska? Because that simply isn't happening in the rest of the country.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

"That depends on how you define the word is."

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

I forgot that. I wasn't living state side then.

 

[JesusLives]

Average liberal logic.
Have “compassion” for drug dealers who make neighborhoods look like zombies from people doing meth, and have compassion for thankless and sometimes criminal illegals while giving them free hotel rooms and money, but don’t have compassion for your own people and your own country.
Average liberal logic.

I am really a moderate. I was a Republican for many years back when they were a decent party and still pretended to care about regular American people and not billionaires. I would like to be an Independent but I want to vote in primaries so I have to declare a party at this point I can't align myself with the Republicans.

 

[JesusLives]

That's great!
That means you spent a good amount of time praying for him?
That's what the Bible tells you to do.


EVERYONE is an example of satan, until we are born again.
This is why, amongst MANY other Biblical reasons, you should be praying for your President.


I'm not sure if you deliberately omit the MAMMOTH lies that Democrats in general, and past Democrat Presidents, spew every day on purpose, or you truly cognitively don't think they do.

You do see the massive hypocrisy there?
PLEASE point out similar posts you have made about Democrats.


Bottom line: President Trump is a flawed human being, with many fleshly weaknesses.
However I could post VOLUMES of accounts where he has helped the lowly and needy. MUCH more so than Joe Biden or Barack Hussein Obama.

Personally I think some of the rules for being President should be changed and having any kind of convicted criminal record should be a big RED FLAG and keep you from being allowed to run. As in no convicted felons period.

 

[JesusLives]

Elaborate. How has Trump not had empathy toward the weaker, older, working class?

Trying to cut SNAP, taking away the vouchers to help with healthcare. Some of this stuff hasn't hit yet but talk to me again at the end of 2026 when it starts to take place.


I'm sorry, but this is really a disgusting lie.
I
Is it a lie because you don't know it's a lie?

You said earlier it doesn't matter.

This was from a very cursory search. You just said you kept quiet for Trump's 4 years in office. Does THIS qualify as a lie? Note the date.

I have and had opinions that I did voice, but if you could have seen the many times I just kept quiet in his first 4 years I did filter myself bunches and this second 4 year term I am now unfiltered. If you really knew me you would know the difference. To put it another way his first 4 year term I managed to keep my friends and family, his second 4 year term lets just say some friends and family have decided to go away.


JesusLives
Senior Member
Oct 11, 201314,5962,207113




Nov 25, 2019
#1,371
Ghoti2 said:
As a man, all I find decent about Trump is his honesty...…. Well, HIS brand of crude, insulting honesty.

But his policies are the best I have seen in my lifetime. And I love the money I now have that I never saw before he took office. So, of course I will vote for him again. (Sorry, Dar. )
But, I do wish he was less thin-skinned and could learn to control his mouth..... even a little. He is truly his own worst enemy.

JesusLives:
"Don't think I can stand 4 more years of this guy I might have to move further away than Tennessee....if there are 4 more years. Don't the republicans or the dems have anyone better to offer up for president?"

Again. Elaborate please.

How has he "bulldozed" American citizens?

Aug 29, 2019
#680
Personally I look forward to the days when he is not in the White House and we don't hear his name mentioned in the news ever again. I've heard the Trumpet blow about as much as I can handle....

 

[JesusLives]

I did, reread what I said.



Did you get an invitation from Obama to play a round of anything with him?? Presidents have always made their mark on the WH. Trump is the only one the press and Dems have complained about.



It's not a deflection it's a comparison. It's always about Trump. Since he came down the escalator some people can't get a grip.




No you're saying no one is as close to Satan as Trump is, and I'm pointing out hypocrisy in that statement.

As close of an example of is what I wrote - I don't know how close to Satan Trump is you would have to ask him.



Killing drug dealers off the coast isn't murder, it's justice. You can be sure they'd be screaming if fishermen were hit and the press would never shut up. It's drug dealers and the less there are of them the better.




Yes, he was and was trafficking other human beings among other things.



Your gas is climbing higher and groceries than under Biden and inflation?? Do you live in Alaska? Because that simply isn't happening in the rest of the country.

Price Changes for Specific Items
While overall prices are up, there is variation among different goods:

• Eggs: Prices have fallen significantly since their peak in early 2025 due to the resolution of an avian flu outbreak and increased production.
• Gasoline: Prices have remained relatively flat overall since Trump took office in January 2025, with some monthly decreases, though they fluctuate with global trends.
• Groceries: Average grocery prices are up about 1.4% since January, though prices for some staples like ground beef, coffee, and certain fruits have seen notable increases, partly due to tariffs.
• Tariffed Goods: Items heavily affected by the new broad tariffs, such as bananas, coffee, and jewelry, have seen significant price increases.

Summary Table: Prices Since Jan 2025

Item/Category
Price Direction
Primary Driver
Overall CPI Up (3.0% annual rate in Sep) Tariffs, general economic conditions Eggs Down Recovery from avian flu Gasoline Flat/Slightly down overall OPEC decisions, market fluctuations Ground Beef Up Tariffs, supply dynamics Coffee Up Tariffs, some harvest issues
Ultimately, while prices for some individual items have decreased, the overall trend since Trump took office has been upward, with inflation currently a key concern for American families.

 

[tourist]

Believing in your own lie doesn't make it the truth.

Pilot asked Jesus once "What is truth". You definitely speak the truth.