Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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God will causes his children to strike envy in the hearts that need saving @OLDBUTNEW

There's nothing we can do about that

His will

Will be done

In Jesus name I here by will you to stand firm, in the belief God gives strengthened mercy to unbelief and affection in his children , and he will sow his seed in whom will receive him

Through his eternal promise
 
God will causes his children to strike envy in the hearts that need saving @OLDBUTNEW

There's nothing we can do about that

His will

Will be done

In Jesus name I here by will you to stand firm, in the belief God gives strengthened mercy to unbelief and affection in his children , and he will sow his seed in whom will receive him

Through his eternal promise

Excellent Post, Bro!
 
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I appreciate that. I’d been working on it for a few days, and I had some help sharpening the flow and making sure every point stayed grounded in Scripture. I’m grateful it’s been useful. My whole aim was simply to let the text speak for itself rather than forcing any man-made system onto it. When we set aside our assumptions and just follow what Paul is actually arguing, Romans 9 does not teach unconditional election.
I very much appreciated Your post.

Romans teaches everything AGAINST calvies theory.......The irony that they use it to teach their theory is sad.

Is there injustice in God? Absolutely not.

Israel thought they were the special elect and salvation went to no one else.

The calvies think they are the special elect and salvation goes to no one else.


Whosoever believes. None are left out of His salvation plan.

John 3:16
Acts 16:31
 
Yep. You entered these discussions with your misrepresentations and you carry on in the same vein.

Maybe it makes you feel special.
He died for you and me....And everyone else who has ever lived.

You and I are not special when it comes to His salvation.

John 3:16
Acts 16:31.

Equal privilege and equal opportunity for ALL.
 
Good on you, sister!! There is absolutely nothing wrong with your artwork; Please keep posting it!!!

And yes: GOD definitely did make women beautiful! You're so right!!!
Jesus was very gracious toward women. Otherwise, the Bible is full of men treating women in ways they ought not, and it carries on to this day, and right into this forum, as we witnessed yesterday and today for sure, and no doubt elsewhere as well. Men here can complain all they want about the fact that I, a woman, relate very strongly to women, love them as my sisters, and feel connected to them in ways men may never understand. Should this stop me? Should their hatred and desire to condemn me for things I have not done deter me? Should their lies concern me? The fact that they have uncontrollable lusts and unrestrained evil imaginations is something they need to deal with. It's between them and God.

There are significantly more men's names than women's names mentioned in the Bible, with studies
finding a ratio of roughly 10-to-1 or more in favour of men. Specific counts vary depending on the study
and the version of the Bible used, but the overwhelming disparity is consistent across all counts:

  • Men's names: Counts range from approximately 1,181 to 1,770 different named men.
  • Women's names: Counts range from approximately 93 to 205 different named women.
One study of the Hebrew Bible alone found 1,315 names belonging to men and only 111 to women.

The disparity is often attributed to the patriarchal societies of the time in which the texts were written,
where genealogies and historical records primarily focused on male lineage. Many women mentioned in
the Bible are not named at all, identified only in relation to a man (e.g., "the wife of" or "the daughter of").
Some men are spoiled and demand this type of attention all the time. B_H is like that. He might be happy
if I dressed the women in garbage bags like the control freak totalitarian dictator he is, but I am not going
to do that. He seemed to think he knew something of the process involved in designing them but again he
was just making faulty assumptions and jumping to erroneous conclusions and not using proper
terminology at all. It was all his desire to condemn while he put on an act of seeking respectful dialogue
around Scripture and yet he kept ignoring my questions repeatedly put to him regarding Biblical truth.
 
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Jesus was very gracious toward women. Otherwise, the Bible is full of men treating women in ways they ought not, and it carries on to this day, and right into this forum, as we witnessed yesterday and today for sure, and no doubt elsewhere as well. Men here can complain all they want about the fact that I, a woman, relate very strongly to women, love them as my sisters, and feel connected to them in ways men may never understand. Should this stop me? Should their hatred and desire to condemn me for things I have not done deter me? Should their lies concern me? The fact that they have uncontrollable lusts and unrestrained evil imaginations is something they need to deal with. It's between them and God.

There are significantly more men's names than women's names mentioned in the Bible, with studies
finding a ratio of roughly 10-to-1 or more in favour of men. Specific counts vary depending on the study
and the version of the Bible used, but the overwhelming disparity is consistent across all counts:

  • Men's names: Counts range from approximately 1,181 to 1,770 different named men.
  • Women's names: Counts range from approximately 93 to 205 different named women.
One study of the Hebrew Bible alone found 1,315 names belonging to men and only 111 to women.

The disparity is often attributed to the patriarchal societies of the time in which the texts were written,
where genealogies and historical records primarily focused on male lineage. Many women mentioned in
the Bible are not named at all, identified only in relation to a man (e.g., "the wife of" or "the daughter of").
Some men are spoiled and demand this type of attention all the time. B_H is like that. He might be happy
if I dressed the women in garbage bags like the control freak totalitarian dictator he is, but I am not going
to do that. He seemed to think he knew something of the process involved in designing them but again he
was just making faulty assumptions and jumping to erroneous conclusions and not using proper
terminology at all. It was all his desire to condemn while he put on an act of seeking respectful dialogue
around Scripture and yet he kept ignoring my questions repeatedly put to him regarding Biblical truth.


SISTER: This is absolutely brilliant!!!! I totally agree!!!

And I must say, that quite often, due to the disrespect that I see men, including "Christian" men, having for women, I must say that I'm ashamed to be of the male gender! And I mean that most sincerely!!

And also, I'm sure that the women on this forum would find you be an excellent role model!

So please don't stop what you're doing!
 
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Excellent Post, Bro!
Thanks the lord willed it amen.

Prophecy is a gift but not in a way that all know, it's a will to.

The lord heard you had a heart for his will, and he nurtured you and disciplined you, then one fine day he directed your steps, to another child of God who also had love for his will, and his everything. For reasons you don't know until your paths crossed, as the lord directs your steps before hand.

It wasnt until you saw many words being spoken that you realised you had seen that will before already spoken, and you couldn't remember if it was a dream or a vision, or a word spoken, but as his will was spoken in your heart it awoken to what had always been, as the life in you keeps the way of the lord.





Which may have been spoken and decreed in a plan, that you may have been conscious to, or not.

But the lord moves mountains so anything can be done.

And his will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

The earth being the flesh ☺️
 
SISTER: This is absolutely brilliant!!!! I totally agree!!!

And I must say, that quite often, due to the disrespect that I see men, including "Christian" men, having for women, I must say that I'm ashamed to be of the male gender! And I mean that most sincerely!!

And also, I'm sure that the women on this forum would find you be an excellent role model!

So please don't stop what you're doing!
You have no reason to feel ashamed, Douglas, at least, not for yourself! And you know it is kind of funny when people say they refuse to call themselves a Christian because of the deplorable ways Christians behave, I have asked those same people if they refuse to call themselves a human being, because it is human nature that is the problem, and what is even more weird is that these free willers and Pelagian heretics act in such deplorable ways and then turn around and say man is not such a bad guy, and he is certainly not the creature Scripture makes him out to be! B_H basically did that very same thing. Of course his cult of KJ compels him to refuse to accept what Scripture teaches on this matter. He looks at one verse and claims it does not say what the other versions do even though a plethora of other verses all throughout the Bible make the same case even if not in the exact same words as "incurably wicked heart." And of course he and his ilk do this so they can claim the man of flesh, the unregenerated, can do what Scripture repeatedly says he cannot. He cannot please God, he cannot submit to God, he is incapable of obeying, he serves the LAW of sin and is opposed to the spiritual things of God. Nope nope nope they are having none of that! Even though KJV says
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17And the way of peace have they not known:
18There is no fear of God before their eyes.


Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, they believe the natural man has wisdom when he has none.

They make up such things as temporary enablement and then want us to believe they do not add to Scripture.

That if we do not read the same assumptions into the text that they do we are wrong and our beliefs are silly.

Correction bores and annoys them.
 
She is a woman so not sure where you're going with that. :unsure:

Certainly hope you're not suggesting women can't learn and share the things of God.
Doubtless what this commentator intends to convey is the idea that primary emphasis is directed to the person of the portrait first and foremost. All else is secondary, tertiary or trivial by comparison, this by methodical intent, and habitually.
 
You have no reason to feel ashamed, Douglas, at least, not for yourself! And you know it is kind of funny when people say they refuse to call themselves a Christian because of the deplorable ways Christians behave, I have asked those same people if they refuse to call themselves a human being, because it is human nature that is the problem, and what is even more weird is that these free willers and Pelagian heretics act in such deplorable ways and then turn around and say man is not such a bad guy, and he is certainly not the creature Scripture makes him out to be! B_H basically did that very same thing. Of course his cult of KJ compels him to refuse to accept what Scripture teaches on this matter. He looks at one verse and claims it does not say what the other versions do even though a plethora of other verses all throughout the Bible make the same case even if not in the exact same words as "incurably wicked heart." And of course he and his ilk do this so they can claim the man of flesh, the unregenerated, can do what Scripture repeatedly says he cannot. He cannot please God, he cannot submit to God, he is incapable of obeying, he serves the LAW of sin and is opposed to the spiritual things of God. Nope nope nope they are having none of that! Even though KJV says
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17And the way of peace have they not known:
18There is no fear of God before their eyes.


Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, they believe the natural man has wisdom when he has none.

They make up such things as temporary enablement and then want us to believe they do not add to Scripture.
Those passages de-Calvinized dozens of times over on this thread.
 
I appreciate that. I’d been working on it for a few days, and I had some help sharpening the flow and making sure every point stayed grounded in Scripture. I’m grateful it’s been useful. My whole aim was simply to let the text speak for itself rather than forcing any man-made system onto it. When we set aside our assumptions and just follow what Paul is actually arguing, Romans 9 does not teach unconditional election.
You nailed it buddy. Grand slam.
 
cv5 is the same. He rewrites the very words of Jesus Christ Himself so he can excuse himself as a sinner.

John8-34-Romans3-23.png

Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin." John 8 v 34 Not, only those who choose to sin or only atheists. Everyone who sins is a slave to sin. Romans 3 v 23 - all have sinned...
 
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You have no reason to feel ashamed, Douglas, at least, not for yourself! And you know it is kind of funny when people say they refuse to call themselves a Christian because of the deplorable ways Christians behave, I have asked those same people if they refuse to call themselves a human being, because it is human nature that is the problem, and what is even more weird is that these free willers and Pelagian heretics act in such deplorable ways and then turn around and say man is not such a bad guy, and he is certainly not the creature Scripture makes him out to be! B_H basically did that very same thing. Of course his cult of KJ compels him to refuse to accept what Scripture teaches on this matter. He looks at one verse and claims it does not say what the other versions do even though a plethora of other verses all throughout the Bible make the same case even if not in the exact same words as "incurably wicked heart." And of course he and his ilk do this so they can claim the man of flesh, the unregenerated, can do what Scripture repeatedly says he cannot. He cannot please God, he cannot submit to God, he is incapable of obeying, he serves the LAW of sin and is opposed to the spiritual things of God. Nope nope nope they are having none of that! Even though KJV says
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17And the way of peace have they not known:
18There is no fear of God before their eyes.


Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, they believe the natural man has wisdom when he has none.

They make up such things as temporary enablement and then want us to believe they do not add to Scripture.

That if we do not read the same assumptions into the text that they do we are wrong and our beliefs are silly.


@Magenta : Brilliant stuff, dear sister; And yes, that's a good point you've made, about asking the same people who refuse to call themselves Christians, if they also refuse to call themselves a human being: In both cases, due to displayed bad behaviour!!

I'm learning so much good stuff from your Posts: You're an excellent teacher.

Douglas.
 
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@Magenta : Brilliant stuff, dear sister; And yes, that's a good point you've made, about asking the same people who refuse to call themselves Christians, if they also refuse to call themselves a human being: In both cases, due to displayed bad behaviour!!

I'm learning so much good stuff from your Posts: You're an excellent teacher.

Douglas.
Do you think it was brilliant that she posted and mocked, criticized a personal profile picture of @Bible_Highlighter?
 
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Correction bores and annoys them.
a good prophecy here Sis

He called this post boring.

He does the same with me every time I correct him

I think he watched he man and the battle of the universe

But favoured the ideas by skeletor the most,

By the power of grey skull 🤩

 
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Do you think it was brilliant that she posted and mocked, criticized a personal profile picture of @Bible_Highlighter?
He has a creepy smile. Why do you allow him and yourself to mock others and express
contrary and false opinions when you censure others for expressing honest opinions?


Oh, never mind. I know why. You are a hypocrite.

He links to his pic every time he posts his website which is breaking the rules.

Do you care about that? No. Hypocrite.

PS my co-worker agreed he has a creepy smile.

Also, expressing my honest opinion is not slander.
He slandered me. Do you care about that?


No, you don't because you are a hypocrite.
 
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don't you mean you've finally got to magenta and now you've got the excuse you crave to offend her more with

Your a nightmare no good bully thats all you are.

I agree, Bro! So what is the story with these blokes bullying our sister Magenta! I wish they would just stop doing it: All bullies are cowards, in my opinion.