The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[Soyeong]

The Bible does present the Ten Commandments as the covenant itself. In Exodus 34:28, it is written:

"So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments."

"So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone (Deuteronomy 4:13, NKJV)

This clearly states that the Ten Commandments are the covenant. When we look at Jeremiah 31:31-33, we see God speaking of a new covenant, but notice what He says:

"Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord.
But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people."

This passage does not say the law itself would change. Instead, it tells us that the ten commandments that are the covenant instead of being written on stone tablets, would be written in our hearts and minds. That means the law remains the same, but its place changes, from external tablets to internal conviction. This is why we see in the Gospels of John, Matthew, Luke and Mark, Jesus teaching the commandments and magnifying them.

Now, let's connect this with the Ark of the Covenant. In Deuteronomy 10:1-5, God commanded Moses to place the two tablets of the Ten Commandments inside the Ark:


"At that time the Lord said to me, ‘Hew for yourself two tablets of stone like the first, and come up to Me on the mountain, and make yourself an ark of wood... Then I turned and came down from the mountain, and put the tablets in the ark which I had made; and there they are, just as the Lord commanded me.’"

This shows the special place of the Ten Commandments, inside the Ark, symbolizing their central role in the covenant. But what about the rest of the law? In Deuteronomy 31:24-26, Moses wrote the book of the law and placed it beside the Ark:


"So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: ‘Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you.’”

This distinction is important. The Ten Commandments being described clearly as the Covenant were placed inside the Ark of the Covenant, showing their eternal, unchanging nature as the foundation of the covenant. The rest of the law was placed beside the Ark, acting as a witness.

Now, when Jeremiah speaks of the law being written in our hearts, he is speaking of the same law, the Ten Commandments. The "new" part of the covenant is not that the law changes but that God Himself ensures it is within us, guiding us from within rather than being an external set of rules. This aligns perfectly with how Jesus upheld and fulfilled the law, always pointing back to love for God and neighbor as the foundation of obedience (Matthew 22:36-40).

So, the New Covenant is not about replacing the Ten Commandments but about making them part of who we are.

Blessings

In Deuteronomy 30, it forms the basis for the New Covenant by prophesying about a time when the Israelites would return from exile, God would circumcise their hearts, and they would return to obedience to the Torah, which is what Jeremiah 31:33 and Ezekiel 36:26-27 are in regard to. The Torah refers to all of the Law of Moses, not to just the Ten Commandments. The text notably does not say that the other commandments were placed by the ark because they did not have an eternal unchanging nature.

The greatest two commandments are notably not listed as part of the Ten Commandments. Everything in the Torah is either in regard to how to love God and our neighbor, which is why Jesus said that those are the greatest two commandments and that all of the other commandments hang on them, so the position that we should obey the greatest two commandments is also the position that we should obey the commandments that hang on them. For example, if we love God and our neighbor, then we won’t commit idolatry, murder, adultery, or theft, but we also won’t commit favoritism, rape, kidnapping, and so forth for the rest of the Torah.

 

[Me_Clay]

topic: what is the Covenant.

the covenant is described by GOD as the Ten commandments.

Here are the clear Old Testament verses where God Himself says that the Ten Commandments are His covenant. All verses are NKJV.

1. Deuteronomy 4:13
“So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.”
2. Deuteronomy 9:9
“When I went up into the mountain to receive the tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant which the Lord made with you…”
3. Deuteronomy 9:11
“Then the Lord delivered to me two tablets of stone the tablets of the covenant.”
4. Deuteronomy 10:4
“And He wrote on the tablets according to the first writing, the Ten Commandments… Then I turned and came down from the mountain and put the tablets in the ark.”
5. Exodus 34:28
“He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.”
Summary:
The Old Testament states directly, many times, that God’s covenant was the Ten Commandments, written by His own finger on stone and placed inside the ark of the Covenant.

Many do not know this but it is essential to know this.

questions?

What's the definition of covenant?

 

[pinebeach]

Your message speaks of a “curse” connected to the law, but the Scriptures Jesus taught, and the writings of His own apostles, explain this in a very different way from what you are presenting.

First, the curse in the Old Testament was never the law itself. The law was called holy, just, and good because it came from God who is Holy and Perfect in all things.. The curse was the penalty for disobedience to that law, which is death. Jesus Himself confirmed this when He said that breaking even one of God’s commandments makes a person guilty and in danger of judgment (Matthew 5:19). So the curse is not obedience. The curse is sin.

Well, you are now denying that what I posted is in scripture. That may be playing a part in your inability to grasp what the Bible actually states concerning the fact the law does not play a part in a believers life as far as salvation goes. The rest of your post after that, is just you attempting to explain your version of the gospel.

 

[Soyeong]

This is figurative language for the holy spirit dwelling in our hearts. It teaches us much more than the 10 commandments ever could.

The way that Jesus lived could equivalently be described either as walking in the Spirit or as walking in obedience to the Torah.

 

[vassal]

In Deuteronomy 30, it forms the basis for the New Covenant by prophesying about a time when the Israelites would return from exile, God would circumcise their hearts, and they would return to obedience to the Torah, which is what Jeremiah 31:33 and Ezekiel 36:26-27 are in regard to. The Torah refers to all of the Law of Moses, not to just the Ten Commandments. The text notably does not say that the other commandments were placed by the ark because they did not have an eternal unchanging nature.

The greatest two commandments are notably not listed as part of the Ten Commandments. Everything in the Torah is either in regard to how to love God and our neighbor, which is why Jesus said that those are the greatest two commandments and that all of the other commandments hang on them, so the position that we should obey the greatest two commandments is also the position that we should obey the commandments that hang on them. For example, if we love God and our neighbor, then we won’t commit idolatry, murder, adultery, or theft, but we also won’t commit favoritism, rape, kidnapping, and so forth for the rest of the Torah.

"I agree with what you say, but the two greatest commandments leave out important details that God insists on, and with good reason. If these details are not known, they will not be practiced. For example, the Sabbath, the command to make no images, and other points. We must remember that the Ten Commandments were inside the Ark of the Covenant. This is very important. The rest of the law of Moses was placed beside the Ark. Those laws were part of the covenant for the Jews at that time, yes, but God never called the law of Moses itself the covenant.

What about the Gentiles? Most will not follow the Ten Commandments. They say it is too hard or not necessary. And what about the rest of the law of Moses? Do we really think Gentiles would follow all of that? Many people today do not even accept the Ten Commandments, even though God Himself declared them to be His covenant. Most of the law of Moses cannot be kept today, so what should we really teach? Jesus was clear that if we want to enter into life, we must keep the commandments. He was speaking of the Ten Commandments.

And what about the Jerusalem council in Acts? They only kept a few parts of the law of Moses for the Gentile believers, and this was decided by the apostles themselves under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. The Ten Commandments, which God called the covenant, are the foundation.

But I also understand that Christ said nothing of the Law would pass away. So I know that when the New Covenant is fully put into place by God at Jesus’ second coming, things will change. Scripture shows this clearly, beginning with Jeremiah. Jesus established the New Covenant by His death on the cross, as He announced at the last supper. He also said in a parable:

'The kingdom of heaven is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field. It is the smallest of all seeds, but when it grows it becomes the greatest of herbs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and rest in its branches.'

The kingdom is growing. The seed is planted. It is our work to water this seed with the truth so it can grow.

Blessings, brother in Christ. Continue the good work."

 

[vassal]

What's the definition of covenant?

A covenant is like a contract that both sides in this case, GOD and the people agree to follow!

God will bless the people who follow the commandments and the people will be better for it in all aspects of their lives. The Blessings from GOD are a promise and GOD always always honours his promises.

 

[Hungerpain]

The 'two commandments' are the encapsulation of all the law. Messiah fulfilled the requirement of the 10, and freed his elected from the curse of the law. Love YHWH with all your heart. Do this and ELOHIM will will give you repentance of your sins and a heart to love your neighbor as yourself.

 

[GWH]

A covenant is like a contract that both sides in this case, GOD and the people agree to follow!

God will bless the people who follow the commandments and the people will be better for it in all aspects of their lives. The Blessings from GOD are a promise and GOD always always honours his promises.

"The former regulation [Levitical law per Heb. 7:11] is set aside... and Jesus has become the guarantor of a better covenant."
(Hebrews 7:18a & 22b, cf. Matt. 22:37-40 & John 13:34-35).

 

[Hungerpain]

The people never agreed to anything, nor were they asked. Elohim placed the law and it was absolute. Non negotiable.

 

[vassal]

Well, you are now denying that what I posted is in scripture. That may be playing a part in your inability to grasp what the Bible actually states concerning the fact the law does not play a part in a believers life as far as salvation goes. The rest of your post after that, is just you attempting to explain your version of the gospel.

did GOD ever called his commandments a curse?

Psalm 19:7–9
David speaks by the Spirit and says God’s law and commandments are perfect and pure.
“The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul;
The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.
The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart;
The commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.”

Psalm 119
This whole psalm is a praise of God’s commandments. Here are a few strong examples:

“Your commandments are righteous forever.” (Psalm 119:144)

“Therefore I love Your commandments more than gold.” (Psalm 119:127)

“All Your commandments are faithful.” (Psalm 119:86)

“I will delight myself in Your commandments, which I love.” (Psalm 119:47)

Deuteronomy 10:12–13
Moses shows that God’s commandments are given for our good.
“And now, Israel, what does the Lord your God require of you… to keep the commandments of the Lord and His statutes which I command you today for your good?”

Deuteronomy 32:4
Moses speaks of God’s ways (His commands and judgments) as perfect and just.
“He is the Rock, His work is perfect;
For all His ways are justice.”

Nehemiah 9:13
Here God’s commandments are called “right.”
“You came down also on Mount Sinai… and gave them true laws, good statutes and commandments.”

2 Samuel 22:31 / Psalm 18:30
David again says God’s way, which includes His commands, is perfect.
“As for God, His way is perfect.”

These passages show that God Himself, speaking through His prophets, calls His commandments perfect, good, faithful, pure, true, righteous, and for our good.

paul did write the SAME thing

Romans 7:12 (NKJV):

"Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and just and good."

when paul called the law a curse the meaning was about something else obviously, i want you to find out why Paul said this it is the only way to learn. do your homework, if you cannot find i will help but at least please try.

 

[vassal]

@Hungerpain you wrote:

""The people never agreed to anything, nor were they asked. Elohim placed the law and it was absolute. Non negotiable.""


The law and obedience are not forced, they are presented as a choice!!.

Exodus 19:5–8 – The people respond willingly to God’s covenant.
“Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people… And all the people answered together and said, ‘All that the Lord has spoken we will do.’”

• Here, the Israelites agreed voluntarily to obey God. God did not force them—they consented.

Exodus 24:3–7 – Moses reads the law and the people accept it.
“So Moses came and told the people all the words of the Lord… And all the people answered with one voice and said, ‘All the words which the Lord has said we will do.’… Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read in the hearing of the people. And they said, ‘All that the Lord has said we will do, and be obedient.’”

• Again, this shows that the law was presented and the people accepted it, confirming a mutual agreement.

Deuteronomy 29:9–12 – Renewal of the covenant with the people’s consent.
“You stand today, all of you, before the Lord your God… to enter into the covenant of the Lord your God… with your consent and with your choice.”

• God explicitly says the covenant is entered with the people’s consent.

Deuteronomy 30:19–20 – God presents a choice to obey or disobey.
“I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death… therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live; that you may love the Lord your God, obey His voice, and cling to Him.”

• The law and obedience are not forced—they are presented as a choice!!.

 

[Hungerpain]

All those examples are correct and a beautiful display of Elohim's law. All fulfilled by HOSHUA Mashiach. We are under grace but if you prefer to step outside the covenant of 'grace' and place yourself under the Law. Fair well.

 

[vassal]

All those examples are correct and a beautiful display of Elohim's law. All fulfilled by HOSHUA Mashiach. We are under grace but if you prefer to step outside the covenant of 'grace' and place yourself under the Law. Fair well.

read Jeremiah 31:31-34 very carefully word by word and explain it to me in accordance to the context Jeremiah explains it. then we will discuss.

 

[pinebeach]

did GOD ever called his commandments a curse?

Is the Bible the inspired word of God or not? Yes or no. If yes, then those who try to keep the commandmets are cursed.

The New Covenant is by the blood of Christ who died so that we might be forgiven of our sins. The commandments are not part of the New Covenant.

Continued refusal to agree with scipture indicates someone who has their own gospel and has denied the actual Bibles explanation of the true gospel.

Did God ever congratulate anyone and tell them they don't need Jeus? Your 'questions' twist both the actual gospel and my simple posts

 

[pinebeach]

Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and just and good."

Exactly why human beings cannot EVER keep it as God gave it. You actually post the truth but then twist it according to your own unbiblical understanding.

 

[Hungerpain]

@Hungerpain you wrote:

""The people never agreed to anything, nor were they asked. Elohim placed the law and it was absolute. Non negotiable.""


The law and obedience are not forced, they are presented as a choice!!.

Exodus 19:5–8 – The people respond willingly to God’s covenant.
“Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people… And all the people answered together and said, ‘All that the Lord has spoken we will do.’”

• Here, the Israelites agreed voluntarily to obey God. God did not force them—they consented.

Exodus 24:3–7 – Moses reads the law and the people accept it.
“So Moses came and told the people all the words of the Lord… And all the people answered with one voice and said, ‘All the words which the Lord has said we will do.’… Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read in the hearing of the people. And they said, ‘All that the Lord has said we will do, and be obedient.’”

• Again, this shows that the law was presented and the people accepted it, confirming a mutual agreement.

Deuteronomy 29:9–12 – Renewal of the covenant with the people’s consent.
“You stand today, all of you, before the Lord your God… to enter into the covenant of the Lord your God… with your consent and with your choice.”

• God explicitly says the covenant is entered with the people’s consent.

Deuteronomy 30:19–20 – God presents a choice to obey or disobey.
“I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death… therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live; that you may love the Lord your God, obey His voice, and cling to Him.”

• The law and obedience are not forced—they are presented as a choice!!.

They sinned and worshipped the golden calf and spent 40 years

read Jeremiah 31:31-34 very carefully word by word and explain it to me in accordance to the context Jeremiah explains it. then we will discuss.

 

[vassal]

look at the timeline of these events it is important did you see the verses i posted for you it is clear they agreed and were given a choice it was not forced upon them but yes they disobeyed then the consequences you mentioned 40 years in the desert.

 

[GWH]

If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. (John 8:32)
Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near. (Mat 3:2, Mat 4:17)
If ye love me, keep my commandments. (john 14:15)
if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.(mat 19:17)
The former regulation [Levitical law per Heb. 7:11] is set aside... and Jesus has become the guarantor of a better covenant.
(Hebrews 7:18a & 22b, cf. Matt. 22:37-40 & John 13:34-35).

 

[Me_Clay]

"I agree with what you say, but the two greatest commandments leave out important details that God insists on, and with good reason. If these details are not known, they will not be practiced. For example, the Sabbath, the command to make no images, and other points. We must remember that the Ten Commandments were inside the Ark of the Covenant. This is very important. The rest of the law of Moses was placed beside the Ark. Those laws were part of the covenant for the Jews at that time, yes, but God never called the law of Moses itself the covenant.

What about the Gentiles? Most will not follow the Ten Commandments. They say it is too hard or not necessary. And what about the rest of the law of Moses? Do we really think Gentiles would follow all of that? Many people today do not even accept the Ten Commandments, even though God Himself declared them to be His covenant. Most of the law of Moses cannot be kept today, so what should we really teach? Jesus was clear that if we want to enter into life, we must keep the commandments. He was speaking of the Ten Commandments.

And what about the Jerusalem council in Acts? They only kept a few parts of the law of Moses for the Gentile believers, and this was decided by the apostles themselves under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. The Ten Commandments, which God called the covenant, are the foundation.

But I also understand that Christ said nothing of the Law would pass away. So I know that when the New Covenant is fully put into place by God at Jesus’ second coming, things will change. Scripture shows this clearly, beginning with Jeremiah. Jesus established the New Covenant by His death on the cross, as He announced at the last supper. He also said in a parable:

'The kingdom of heaven is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field. It is the smallest of all seeds, but when it grows it becomes the greatest of herbs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and rest in its branches.'

The kingdom is growing. The seed is planted. It is our work to water this seed with the truth so it can grow.

Blessings, brother in Christ. Continue the good work."

What about it?

 

[vassal]

Is the Bible the inspired word of God or not? Yes or no. If yes, then those who try to keep the commandmets are cursed.

The New Covenant is by the blood of Christ who died so that we might be forgiven of our sins. The commandments are not part of the New Covenant.

Continued refusal to agree with scipture indicates someone who has their own gospel and has denied the actual Bibles explanation of the true gospel.

Did God ever congratulate anyone and tell them they don't need Jeus? Your 'questions' twist both the actual gospel and my simple posts

You say that those who keep the commandments are cursed, but this is not what Jesus taught. Jesus never cursed anyone for keeping the commandments. Instead He praised obedience and told His followers to keep God’s words. He said, "If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments" (Matthew 19:17). He also said, "Whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother" (Matthew 12:50). Jesus never separated love from obedience.
You say the commandments are not part of the new covenant, but God Himself said the opposite through the prophet Jeremiah. He promised that in the new covenant He would write His law in our hearts (Jeremiah 31:33). Jesus came to make this covenant real in us. He said He came not to destroy the law but to fulfill it, and that "whoever does and teaches them" will be called great in the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 5:17 and 19).
You also claim that those who obey God have “their own gospel,” yet Jesus taught that true faith produces obedience. He said, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word, and My Father will love him, and We will come to him" (John 14:23). Jesus speaks of obedience as the natural fruit of love, not a curse.
You ask if God ever congratulated anyone without Jesus. The truth is that Jesus Himself praised people who obeyed God before He even died for them. He said of Nathanael, "Behold, an Israelite indeed, in whom is no deceit!" (John 1:47). He praised the centurion’s faith as greater than all He had seen in Israel (Matthew 8:10). None of these examples show God rejecting people who obeyed Him. Instead Jesus honored sincere hearts that listened to God.
Nothing in the words of Jesus teaches that people who keep God’s commandments are cursed. He said the opposite. He warned against lawlessness, and He taught us that those who build their lives on His words are like a house on rock (Matthew 7:24 to 27). The curse is not on obedience. The curse is on rejecting God’s voice.
Jesus never twisted the gospel. He made it very simple. Love God. Keep His words. Believe in the One He sent. Live the truth. This is the gospel He preached, and His teaching stands above every other opinion.

now look at the verses below does it look like like paul is describing the law or commandments as a curse?
Romans 7:12
“Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.”

Romans 3:31
“Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not. On the contrary, we establish the law.”

Romans 7:14
“For we know that the law is spiritual.”

Romans 8:3–4
God sent His Son “that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but

Romans 13:8–10
“For the commandments… are summed up in this saying, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ Love is the fulfillment of the law.”

Corinthians 7:19
“Keeping the commandments of God is what matters.”

Romans 2:13
“Not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified.”

Galatians 3:24
“The law was our tutor to bring us to Christ.”

Ephesians 6:2–3
Honor your father and mother… which is the first commandment with promise.”

Romans 6:1–2, 12
Do not let sin rule in your body.

Do you see the error of what you speak of? The curse Paul speaks of is that sin leads to death! Paul is nor speaking of the law or commandments. also in other verses He is speaking about the old system of sacrifices, ceremonies, and the earthly covenant at Sinai which could not change the heart.