the truth spoken, expounded correctly. totally, by far, most people have been married multiple times. i said the same decades ago about having sex in that you are married to everyone you had sex with. i married late in life, about 8 & a half year ago. bu there was a short time i was misbehaving. my sins are forgiven forever. i became born again in 93" by the grace of God!! yeah, praise the Lord Jesus! suze, your post is a needful reminder of God's abounding blessings, compassion, grace, love & mercy. every day we live is another chance to grow in grace, become a better person, be an example to all & spread joy.My point for that post was not to condemn anyone but to highlight that very few people r still with the first person that they had sex with , so the vast majority of us r adulterers , we r all filthy sinners ! We should not b judging each other but judging ourselves and , acknowledging our sin before God and asking Him to forgive us through Christ . If we have done that then we r forgiven and whatever state we r in , is our starting point .
Both my husband and I had previous relationships . I have prayed to God and asked Him that , Steve and I might b man and wife in His eyes . I believe my prayers were answered positively so I'm content and confident about our relationship being valid in God's eyes . That's all that matters . Getting close to God is a journey . It didn't start when we first heard about Him , it started when we were conceived . He brings us to Himself and He uses our life experiences to teach us , about ourselves , this world and Himself . It's an on going process and along the way we will make mistakes , some of them big ones ! But He is faithful , faithful to teach us and bring us to Himself at the pace that He knows is best for us as an individual . We r a flock of sheep for sure , but we r also individuals , we learn and process things in different ways and at different speeds , this is why we can't judge each other . God knows us better than we can ever know ourselves and He knows how to keep us , safe and close to Him . All we have to do is surrender and love . We should not judge each others journey / learning process , that what life in these kingdoms of men is , a journey of learning to bring us to a better understanding and relationship with our Faithful Father . He wants us and He will get usGod bless u .
Can a Christian re-marry?
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What I see, under Law under the curse of the Law. First be dead to self in the Spirit of God. Romans 7 explains this to us all, not all comprehend it, not all see, no one can but God himself in God's spirit and Truth for them to love all, not ever meant to get taken for granted as Father sees the motive(s) and knows, not anyone can truly hide, only from others, but not God ever. God loves. us all, revealed this through Son frist went to a willing physical death to reconcile everyone unto Father 2 Cor 5:17-20. That is done (John 19:30) now new life offered n the risen Son for anyone to believe and stand in Col 1:21-23 seeing hew from Father, Dad's, PaPa's view. Wow, I see Isaiah 6:1-7 now, Wow!
Thank you, for being aware of being under Law, not yet what it does to people. No rest in stress is there? And taking it for granted is not real rest either. Hebrews 4:9-13
Marriage is permanent in the sense that if a man marries a divorced woman he is practicing adultery because the woman belongs to the first man so when he has sex with his 'wife' he is actually committing adultery because the first marriage is permanent and the woman actually belongs to the first man. Luke 16:18 and other scriptures like it.
Jesus said that Moses made that concession because of the peoples hardness of heart. Hard hearted people are capable of anything and Moses knew that. A concession is when you allow something (usually grudgingly) bad in order to avert something very very bad. Moses made a command decision based on acceptable loses, which is exactly what a commander must do in certain situations. The hard-hearted people were allowed to divorce their wives in order to avert treachery which can end in blood feuds or even open war. Moses' concession does not mean that he allowed the woman to freely remarry. He also told the Fathers not to profane (make them oath breakers) their daughters by allowing them to become harlots, because the land would fall to harlotry. Lev. 19:29
So Moses' concession was not made to allow remarriages, it was made to control losses on a civilizational scale. But like the Lord Jesus said: from the beginning marriage has always been permanent. Luke 16:17-18
God considers it a crime because marriage is permanent, and many men have more than one wife but dont acknowledge it, when you dump a wife to have another wife you wind up with two wives whether you believe it or not, because marriage is permanent, and a man can have more than one wife, in this present age it is not wise, practical, or advisable, but it is allowable in a Jewish legal sense, because of the order.
Just to throw a spanner in the worksstrictly speaking , if two people , willingly have sex with each other then , they r married . Therefore , everyone should b and in my opinion is , married to the first person they had sex with and all other sexual relationships r adulterous ! How's about that then guys and gals ?!
Yes , I'm back and I'm annoying but , I do love God and Jesus and all of my family in Christ . Just thought I would stir the pot a bit , c what transpires
If a man and a woman have sex, they are either: Married, adulterers, or fornicators. Those are the Biblical choices.
There is no marriage checkmark by your name in God's books of past behavior. .
Meaning that God forgives ALL sins completely when asked. They are erased and remembered nevermore...for all eternity.
So getting remarried is perfectly Biblical for men AND women.
HOWEVER
EXTREME CAUTION needs to be utilized when doing so.
65% of second marriages fail within 5 years.
And 73% of 3rd marriages fail in 5 years.
Meaning subsequent marriages after your first failed marriage have abysmal rates of success.
And God's laws and directives are not a laundry list of do's and dont's because He is some sort of restrictive, strict parent that doesn't want to be bothered by us.
Far from it.
God's directives are told to us because of the damage that violating them does to us individually. He takes no joy in seeing us with broken hearts when we have gone against what he has told us.
We curse ourselves with these problems...God doesn't do it. He warns us not to do things but we do them anyway and then cry about the outcomes.
So,
Can you remarry?
Yes.
Should you try to remarry?
Probably not.
Meaning that God forgives ALL sins completely when asked. They are erased and remembered nevermore...for all eternity.
So getting remarried is perfectly Biblical for men AND women.
HOWEVER
EXTREME CAUTION needs to be utilized when doing so.
65% of second marriages fail within 5 years.
And 73% of 3rd marriages fail in 5 years.
Meaning subsequent marriages after your first failed marriage have abysmal rates of success.
And God's laws and directives are not a laundry list of do's and dont's because He is some sort of restrictive, strict parent that doesn't want to be bothered by us.
Far from it.
God's directives are told to us because of the damage that violating them does to us individually. He takes no joy in seeing us with broken hearts when we have gone against what he has told us.
We curse ourselves with these problems...God doesn't do it. He warns us not to do things but we do them anyway and then cry about the outcomes.
So,
Can you remarry?
Yes.
Should you try to remarry?
Probably not.
One last word on this...
Our "treasures" here on Earth that we can carry with us into Heaven are not tangible things like wealth or goods....but instead they are the relationships we form.
Positive relationships achieved through our witness by our actions.
Divorces are messy and divide our friends just like they feel like we have lost a substantial part of ourselves. (For whatever reason we divorced...and I believe legitimate reasons extends way beyond just sexual infidelity)
That's why they always suck.
Our "treasures" here on Earth that we can carry with us into Heaven are not tangible things like wealth or goods....but instead they are the relationships we form.
Positive relationships achieved through our witness by our actions.
Divorces are messy and divide our friends just like they feel like we have lost a substantial part of ourselves. (For whatever reason we divorced...and I believe legitimate reasons extends way beyond just sexual infidelity)
That's why they always suck.
No...
Complicated as per scripture directives are discovered by modern statistics and reasoning. Meaning we have modern science that demonstrates why scriptures say what they say. (Which is NOT one size fits all)
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Blue155
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Any teaching that goes against the words of the Lord on this topic is incorrect. Any teaching that allows divorce for another reason than what the Lord gave is incorrect. Any teaching that gives another reason to be able to divorce and remarry than what the Lord gave is incorrect. If it’s a different reason than what the Lord gave, then it’s wrong, as He has all authority (Matthew chapter 28), and His words will judge us on the last day (John chapter 12).
Of course.
No one I know of that takes their faith seriously would do anything different.
That being said,
People read the different meanings because of different understandings due to hermeneutics. Not that people want to license behaviors. (Although for some, that knife cuts both ways....both the restrictive legalistic readings and the extremely liberal readings).
God wants the best for us and to be free from heartache and heartbreak. That's why He says what he says. And we ALWAYS need to keep that in our minds.
“Crime” is a transgression of human law. “Sin” is the transgression of God’s law.
This thread is about legitimate reasons for remarriage. While I don’t necessarily disagree with your statements, it’s best to edify through the truth rather than condemning.
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Blue155
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The words of the Lord on this are crystal clear and plain, that there needs not being a different interpretation. Usually, those who have a different view are seeking a loophole.
Nope....
Look at Matthew 9. Jesus told his apostles that he was not going to speak plainly in public but that he would to them. So Jesus spoke in parables and metaphors to fulfill the Isaiah Prophesy.
And Jeremiah and Malachi have plenty of metaphors about unfaithful Israel to make what Jesus said to mean something different from the strict, legalistic interpretation that you are holding to.
I'm not saying that you are completely wrong....just that the truth has nuances that you cannot see or understand.
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Blue155
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Jesus said what He said in Matthew 19:9. It’s plain and clear. Any view that teaches otherwise is incorrect. Any teaching that goes against the words of the Lord on this topic is incorrect. Any teaching that allows divorce for another reason than what the Lord gave is incorrect. Any teaching that gives another reason to be able to divorce and remarry than what the Lord gave is incorrect. If it’s a different reason than what the Lord gave, then it’s wrong, as He has all authority (Mt. 28), and His words will judge us on the last day (Jn. 12). The words of the Lord on this are crystal clear and plain, that there needs not being a different interpretation. Usually, those who have a different view are seeking a loophole.
You call it strict and legalistic. It’s actually called denying self and being faithful and loyal to the King.
Yes, but "only in the Lord" (1 cor 7) based upon death of the husband. So, what does that mean? I take it to mean to another Christian since "in Christ" is the key, and only those are "in Christ" upon baptism into Christ. 1 cor 7 is very heavy, so read carefully to gain appropriate understanding. And Matt 5:32 and 19.9 regarding divorce based on adultery. Also see Romans 7:3.
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Any interpretation that goes against what the Lord gave is and will always be incorrect. It’s not that it’s difficult to understand, it’s because people bring their emotions in the text, and don’t want to submit to the King on it. Someone who has an issue with the plain words of Jesus on this is usually because they either find themselves in violation of it, they either have a family member that is, or they have someone who is close to them that is. Which again, is bringing their emotions in it. Instead of wanting to be faithful to Jesus, they’d rather find a way around Him to be able to accept a divorce or marriage that is in violation of the words of the Lord.