This thread needs a reminder. Your defense of the Gospel of Christ Jesus as a completed work, not revocable is much appreciated.
Many false teachers these days.
Many false teachers these days.
Another Salvation Thread: Sin and Salvation
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What you are really saying is God's grace is insufficient and the sin was not fully dealt with at the cross.
Yet nobody can determine when and where that salvation is lost... it is just big threat to keep Christians in fear.
Because so much scripture contradicts it. One can feel secure in salvation if he doesn't take it for granted and nourishes, cherishes and guards it. Living faith in the immovable anchor ensures salvation, but a spiritual birth or nature doesn't guarantee salvation.
So what exactly does Christ Jesus offer?
Is it a chance at salvation, life in heaven?
Fear of God is an indispensible part of salvation. Grace taught my heart to fear, and grace my fear relieved (but didn't remove).
Yeah, keep "reminding" on endless discussions lady for thousands of years.
How about this: be happy about other Christians and forgive others who believe differently from you.
Living in the one in whom is no sin, which is eternal life. It's an unmovable anchor that we hold onto by faith
Lady, nobody minimizes what God does, it's a matter of language, communication and understanding ... something which you don't have.
Christ offers Hope to us mortals and a path to Paradise.
He defeated DEATH!
This is also why one group talks about payment of sins and another focuses on resurrection and defeating DEATH itself.
This is how you know you're dealing with the real deal. He didn't come here to do war or some lame human activity, no, He defeated DEATH itself to give us HOPE when we follow Him.
By making light of sinful behavior telling others that it's not possible to lose salvation even if they turned away from the Lord to live in sin - they are advocating that living in sin does not cause one to be separated from the Lord (spiritual death)
This is a trick of the devil that causes others to stumble teaching them believe they are still saved even if they continue or go back to living in sinful behavior. It's false doctrine that beings death (separation from the Lord)
It's the same thing the devil did with Adam and Eve in that he told them they could disobey the Lord and not die
The new testament warns about this:
Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
And then they bark about claiming this is works salvation as they miss the part that says "through the Spirit" as they don't know how to submit themselves to the Lord allowing the Holy Spirit to work thru them
If they did they would stop their sinful behavior and would stop teaching heresy
So give us God's definition of the fear of the Lord that He provides in scripture.
I will let scripture speak for itself. Assume "her" means the flesh and "death" means eternal death. This is the spirit of the fear of the lord speaking
And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. Revelation 2:23
You make a false assumption. Telling someone that individuals still sin after being saved is not the same as taking sin lightly. But perhaps you can enlighten us as to how someone who has been born again is unborn again. Also, perhaps you can tell us what the nothing is that can separate one from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
And he destroyed the power of the devil, ie, the ability to accuse us for violating the law, so that we can walk in righteousness in the spirit of grace.
And caused us to be born again of incorruptible seed.
So odd witnessing an understanding of the flesh by some in this thread
when in another thread it is repudiated by those same people.
So your "ongoing faith holding onto that unmovable anchor" keeps you saved?
Salvation is a gift.
It takes one act of faith, received once in time, not over a lifetime.