You just love turning a blind eye to what Scripture actually says so you can contradict and deny it, calling clear
passages eisegesis and out of context etc., all in support of your vain philosophically based self-exalting theology.
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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passages eisegesis and out of context etc., all in support of your vain philosophically based self-exalting theology.
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom (2 Cor ch 3 v 17). If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ (Rom 8 v 9b). The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him (from John 14 v 17). Those not in Christ are not free (see Heb 2 v 15). Praise God if He has rescued you from the dominion of darkness! (see Col 1 v 13)
don't forget if she becomes a super naturalist it's possible m
The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians ch 2 v 14
I mean what comes naturally to the lord
I think you miss the point = that in saying everyone has equal opportunity to hear and respond to the gospel is clearly blatantly false.
But you do love your blatant falsehoods. You even claim everyone hears when Jesus told us some don't. He also said why.
You can ignore history and truth if you want. It's plain that millions of people throughout history never heard the gospel.
It's also false that God hasn't favored some over others. The nation Israel is just one of a myriad of examples. God being no respecter of people has to do with God not making choices based on anything that is true of an individual, but that He chooses sovereignly and according to His good pleasure.
The discussion to be had here mate is whether or not you you could lie.
Evidently everyone but a hard-core Calvinist is a blind, self-exalting God-hater, liar and blasphemer.
1Jo 3:15 - Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. The world does not recognize Him. No one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him. The one who loves God is known by God. If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The mind that is set on the flesh is hostile toward God; it does not submit to God's law, nor can it. Whoever is not from God does not listen to us.
@Cameron143 did you see this?
How many times has she insisted that election is never to salvation?
That election is always to service?
Here she seems to have budged.
Wow!!!
Perhaps one day she will have that "POOF" experience she so dearly loves to go on about.
"One giant leap for mankind."
"but that He chooses sovereignly and according to His good pleasure."
So conversely....
He chooses sovereignly and according to His good pleasure those He will leave in their sin and created for damnation
As long as we can assert "sovereignty" and according to his pleasure then it provides good cover.
Wow, so he takes pleasure in the eternal damnation of those he could have saved, who perhaps even heard the Gospel but he sovereignly choose not to regenerate so they could believe.
Well a long as his sovereignty is never compromised that is what matters.
Just one big problem "sovereignty" is completely ill defined by TULIP people.
This god created by TULIP does not exist in scripture.
This idea of favoritism. If you were randomly picked out of the void for no rhyme or reason it isint favoritism of any kind. Like thowimg a dart at a board and hitting a picture of you then making you a millionaire. I didn't favor you, and you didnt get favored you got lucky. If there is no ryme or reason as to why you are picked there is no favoritism involved. Isreal got favored over other nations after they got pick for no reason at all. Once again not favoritism. According to this logic you are employing.
Nope.
God does not create certain individuals then elect them to personal salvation by regenerating them prior to belief, it does not happen.
Whilst i agree with your reasoning and sorry to interrupt.
But God had to start with choosing somebody or someone to bare his name.
But Would you see the bigger picture of taking favouritism out of the equation, and see that the lord operates by choosing to save people first before they become saved
More dishonesty. You know that God doesn't create anyone for damnation. Individuals fit themselves for destruction. Scripture also teaches that God takes no pleasure in the death of people. You seem to be unable to reconcile truth.
Also, anyone who isn't regenerated, God does choose to leave them in such an estate. After all, He has the power to save anyone, anywhere, regardless of their estate.
Election isn't selection. God didn't create all humanity and then pick. He chose before the foundation of the world.
We already dealt with that verse and it has nothing to do with hell.
Of course he takes no pleasure ... but in your system that makes no sense because he is has absolute control of who is created for salvation.