Charlie Kirk - so what now ?

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typical persecution complex.
" oh no, someone has a different opinion. I'm so persecuted"
have you ever watched someone slowly rot of cancer? try it and get back with me. see if you have that same room disrespectful attitude.

So now you are a licensed clinician who can diagnose, and you wonder why you have no peace?
Not likely. You and all of us invite trouble into our lives when we reject the life of tranquility and peace He offers those who are truly His.
best wishes
 
typical persecution complex.
" oh no, someone has a different opinion. I'm so persecuted"
have you ever watched someone slowly rot of cancer? try it and get back with me. see if you have that same room disrespectful attitude.
We are spirit, soul, and body, the body wears out and we go home. We go home before our time is we miss the mark, and/or those who are required to intercede for us fail in they're God given responsibility. Last one I knew personally the Lord honored the prayer He guided me in and the tumor died, he is still with us about 10 years since that event with no recurrence. Would that you had grown the way the Lord teaches in the Word that you would have had that same experience. What He does for one He will do for another.
goodbye
 
No doubt. Anyone who ever thought opening global communications to everyone with a digital device was going to be a good thing wasn't thinking right. With the tech now and upcoming everyone's going to be able to make pro-level media on their AI phone. Every mental illness can be professionally marketed with mass appeal. Fun times...
Just look at our troubled contributors!
Good thing Bigfoot is here to offset the TDS drivel!
 

Berkeley Protests in Prophecy? 11/12/2025

TPUSA event -- More people are being saved as a result of Charlie Kirk's death than all those who were saved in his life.
 
Thank you brother.
This got my attention as well, hope you enjoy and are blessed from it-
He declared that the final week has begun! Does this mean the oblations and sacrifices have been resumed?
 
It's not just about not being corrupt. It's about winning a presidential election and accomplishing everything this president has accomplished in 9 months, including saving millions of lives, in a corrupt system while he himself not being corrupt and/or corrupted. Trump has proven he can do all of that, whereas you, I, Carlson, Owens and Fuentes have not. Talk is cheap especially coming from anonymous 2-month old social media accounts.
If Trump did it by himself, then I agree. But I believe given the same support, anyone of us who are not corrupt could have - even an anonymous, 2-month old social media account (Biden "won" his election from his basement, afterall, and I don't think Kamala was even subject to a vote for party candidate?) The question for me is are the hands that put Trump in place going to deal with the Epstein pedophiles like was promised in the election, and stop this America second nonsense which has been going on since Kennedy's assassination. If not, Trump is just trading a rock for a hard place.

Of course there's still pedos on the loose and child traffickers, whether they're Epstein pedos or not has not been confirmed. And allow me to correct myself: You're not void of empathy for victims of alleged, still unknown, Epstein pedos that may be on the loose that you indicate you've accurately counted, you're just void of empathy for anyone saved and benefiting from the interventions of Donald Trump.
I don't have absolute faith in the guy, no. He's not God, and I believe the American people have a duty to voice their displeasure at his not meeting his election promises of holding Epstein's clients to account, and putting America second instead of first. He's done some good things, but if it's at the expense of children and America, he will cost more lives that he saves. As this thread is on Charlie Kirk's public execution, I'll expand on this point the obvious corruption of the FBI and that it shouldn't be trusted to do anything - and it would seem Trump is enabling it?
 
There is footage of the pipe bomber. If I'm not mistaken, he was dropped off and picked up by DC Metro PD.
FBI whistleblower pans bureau for alleged ‘gross misconduct’ and ‘fraud’ in early Jan. 6 pipe-bomb investigation
Joseph M. HannemanSteve Baker
November 12, 2025


The Biden FBI is guilty of “gross misconduct and/or fraud” for calling off surveillance of an early person of interest in the Jan. 6 pipe-bomb case, an FBI whistleblower alleges in a letter to Congress. The letter refers to events that occurred nearly five years before Blaze News disclosed that the surveillance subject lived next door to a Capitol Police officer who is now a potential forensic match to the gait of the bomb suspect.

After reading the Nov. 10 protected whistleblower disclosure from an FBI supervisory special agent who is still at the bureau and a Nov. 8 Blaze News investigation of the pipe-bombs case, U.S. Rep. Thomas Massie believes the FBI “has been engaged in a cover-up” or has been “grossly incompetent.”

“Either way,” Massie (R-Ky.) told Blaze News in a statement, “these latest revelations about the pipe-bomb investigation require answers from the new FBI director.”

The Blaze News investigation said former Capitol Police Officer Shauni Rae Kerkhoff, 31, appears to be a forensic match to the gait of the pipe-bomb suspect. A forensic gait analysis arranged by Blaze News rated Kerkhoff’s stride as a 94% match to the individual shown on video planting pipe bombs the night of Jan. 5, 2021.


The gait analysis used a computer algorithm to analyze walking parameters including flexion (knee bend), hip extension, speed, step length, cadence, and variance. The veteran analyst who ran the study said based on visual observations the program can struggle with, he personally pegged the match at closer to 98%.
 
Melissa Dougherty delivers on the questions we've all been asking -


:D Nailed it! She is awesome.
 
Melissa Dougherty wrote the following description [in part] for the above video:

"I don’t care if this makes me lose followers. We must learn to think critically. Honor Charlie Kirk’s memory by thinking the way he did: not blindly believing, getting swept up in conspiracy, but following the truth through verified evidence, not what one person claims is true. Paranoia is not discernment. Confidence is not competence. Charisma is not credibility. When someone needs to be the hero, the victim, and the authority all at once, then I have a hard time believing that truth is their goal. Seems like they're after power and control.

I fully expect a wave of backlash from Candace’s followers. I think that’s exactly why so many people stay silent. But I just don’t care. Remember: the ones trying to bring people back to reality aren’t being divisive. It’s the ones disconnected from reality who are. This is a core reason why I have such strong issues with unfounded and sensationalized conspiracy theories.

I will GLADLY take this video down and publicly repent if Candace Owens can prove, with verifiable evidence:

1. How TPUSA executives or associates were directly involved in Charlie Kirk’s murder with specific, detailed, and corroborated facts verified by law enforcement, journalists, or court proceedings beyond Candace Owens' personal claims.
2. That her claim that Tyler Robinson did not commit the murder is backed by credible, independently verified evidence... not speculation, assumptions, or anonymous claims, and beyond Candace Owens' personal claims.
3. That her alleged “inside sources” or “federal leaks” actually exist, and that they’ve provided verifiable, legally obtained, and independently confirmed information. Simply asserting “I have sources” or “I know people on both sides” without documentation, names, or corroboration does not count as proof beyond Candace Owens' personal claims.
4. That multiple reputable, independent investigators or journalists, outside of Candace Owens herself and her own media network, have verified her claims through credible, documented evidence.
5. That none of her public statements or implications have recklessly misled her audience, defamed innocent people, or emotionally exploited a murder case for engagement or personal branding.


I implore everyone to understand this: logic and critical thinking apply everywhere in life. This is a part of apologetics, testing what we believe and why we believe it, and seeking out objective truth. I've made multiple videos over the years talking about mind control tactics and how having a deeeeEEEP mistrust can cause paranoia under the guise of discernment. People fall into conspiracies and idolize those who start them because chronic mistrust warps their ability to interpret reality. When you’re convinced everything is rigged, everything starts looking like a clue. That paranoia becomes a worldview. And once someone believes they have “special knowledge,” it feeds their ego and they feel smarter, safer, and more in control than everyone else. The consequences? They stop looking for truth altogether. They instead start looking for confirmation. Evidence becomes optional. Relationships fracture. Dialogue dies. And they become vulnerable to manipulation by anyone who can exploit their fear and flatter their sense of “secret insight.”

She speaks for me. She has expressed my exact same thoughts and questions on CO's 'theories'. Critical, logical thinking and discernment needs to be a part of every conversation, especially when it comes to public accusations and rumor-mongering that can destroy lives.
 
Melissa Dougherty wrote the following description [in part] for the above video:

"I don’t care if this makes me lose followers. We must learn to think critically. Honor Charlie Kirk’s memory by thinking the way he did: not blindly believing, getting swept up in conspiracy, but following the truth through verified evidence, not what one person claims is true. Paranoia is not discernment. Confidence is not competence. Charisma is not credibility. When someone needs to be the hero, the victim, and the authority all at once, then I have a hard time believing that truth is their goal. Seems like they're after power and control.

I fully expect a wave of backlash from Candace’s followers. I think that’s exactly why so many people stay silent. But I just don’t care. Remember: the ones trying to bring people back to reality aren’t being divisive. It’s the ones disconnected from reality who are. This is a core reason why I have such strong issues with unfounded and sensationalized conspiracy theories.

I will GLADLY take this video down and publicly repent if Candace Owens can prove, with verifiable evidence:

1. How TPUSA executives or associates were directly involved in Charlie Kirk’s murder with specific, detailed, and corroborated facts verified by law enforcement, journalists, or court proceedings beyond Candace Owens' personal claims.
2. That her claim that Tyler Robinson did not commit the murder is backed by credible, independently verified evidence... not speculation, assumptions, or anonymous claims, and beyond Candace Owens' personal claims.
3. That her alleged “inside sources” or “federal leaks” actually exist, and that they’ve provided verifiable, legally obtained, and independently confirmed information. Simply asserting “I have sources” or “I know people on both sides” without documentation, names, or corroboration does not count as proof beyond Candace Owens' personal claims.
4. That multiple reputable, independent investigators or journalists, outside of Candace Owens herself and her own media network, have verified her claims through credible, documented evidence.
5. That none of her public statements or implications have recklessly misled her audience, defamed innocent people, or emotionally exploited a murder case for engagement or personal branding.


I implore everyone to understand this: logic and critical thinking apply everywhere in life. This is a part of apologetics, testing what we believe and why we believe it, and seeking out objective truth. I've made multiple videos over the years talking about mind control tactics and how having a deeeeEEEP mistrust can cause paranoia under the guise of discernment. People fall into conspiracies and idolize those who start them because chronic mistrust warps their ability to interpret reality. When you’re convinced everything is rigged, everything starts looking like a clue. That paranoia becomes a worldview. And once someone believes they have “special knowledge,” it feeds their ego and they feel smarter, safer, and more in control than everyone else. The consequences? They stop looking for truth altogether. They instead start looking for confirmation. Evidence becomes optional. Relationships fracture. Dialogue dies. And they become vulnerable to manipulation by anyone who can exploit their fear and flatter their sense of “secret insight.”

She speaks for me. She has expressed my exact same thoughts and questions on CO's 'theories'. Critical, logical thinking and discernment needs to be a part of every conversation, especially when it comes to public accusations and rumor-mongering that can destroy lives.
I saw this same logic during the Pandemic.

I had questions about why they were mandating an experimental vaccine and I was told to show them the proof that something was wrong with the vaccine. That is backwards. It is their job to show me the proof that the vaccine was safe and effective, not my job to show proof it isn't.

So then, with Charlie Kirk's assassination the FBI is investigating, not me. They tell me this guy shot Charlie. OK, how did he get that close to Charlie Kirk with a rifle? Logical question. They say he disassembled the rifle, put it in his backpack and carried it in. OK, so I check and sure enough even if you take the rifle apart it does not fit in a backpack. But this explanation now raises more questions. Why does your explanation not make sense? Also, when did he reassemble it? Was he on the roof with his tools putting the rifle together or was he inside a college building putting together a rifle, walking down the hall and through a window, or did he use a ladder to get onto the roof? If it is a ladder, where did he get the ladder from. If he is in the building why does no one inside this college building not see a man with a rifle climbing out onto a roof? Also, from 200 feet away he was easily visible on that roof to security. Why didn't the security see him?

It is not my job to investigate this murder, but if you give me an explanation where the gloves don't fit, then of course I am going to ask questions about that.

Also, why would the killer, after shooting Charlie and everyone is looking for him stop and disassemble the gun again? Surely at this point he must still be on the roof in plain sight. He then goes to a park and puts the rifle back together again and leaves it there? If he was going to leave the rifle why not just leave it at the site and flee immediately. If it is hard to sneak a rifle into a college campus think how hard it must be to sneak it out after assassinating someone.

These are reasonable questions, and fully my right to ask them so that I can understand. It is the FBI's job to answer them, not to tell me that it is my job to prove their explanation is false. No, it is there job to prove it is true.

Of course there are other questions like how does a rifle that powerful hit Charlie's neck and spine without severing it?

Also, whose career and reputation is being ruined by asking simple and logical questions?

We don't know who killed Charlie Kirk (at this point there has not been a trial or a conviction for the murder yet). We don't know why he was assassinated. But we do know who profited. We do know that an audit was called for by Charlie 8 days before the assassination and that audit was canceled after the assassination. We also know that the amount of fraud is estimated at $40 million, so that is certainly a sizable sum which could be a motive. If someone was going to be exposed by that fraud they profited when Charlie died. We also know that several very large donors had withdrawn their support from TPUSA because of Charlie's refusal to ditch Tucker Carlson. If TPUSA changes policies as a result of the assassination and those donors return to them then that would also be a significant consideration as a motive. Finally Erika Kirk has become CEO as a result of Charlie's assassination. As a new CEO it is perfectly reasonable to check out her resume. No one is ruining her reputation by examining her resume.

Finally, no journalist is going to reveal sources and whistleblowers. What an evil request this lady is asking for.
 
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