What do you bring to the table?

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Wow! Never would have guessed Snackersmom was a deer slayer!
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Wow! Never would have guessed Snackersmom was a deer slayer!
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Alas, I am not.... all deer-exterminating duties on the farm are are carried out by my family members 😔. I'm a good shot but don't like the thought of wounding one and having it run off.

I've dressed out plenty of them though! Probly oughta go ahead and plug one just to get past my hangup lol 😆
 
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Only shoot the evil ones? The ones who look like they will jump in front of a bus full of little children?:giggle::giggle::giggle:;):)(y)
Uber Glove in Owatonna makes an awesome leather coat for the hides you provide.
You would love that.
bless you
 
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Only shoot the evil ones? The ones who look like they will jump in front of a bus full of little children?:giggle::giggle::giggle:;):)(y)
Uber Glove in Owatonna makes an awesome leather coat for the hides you provide.
You would love that.
bless you

That actually happened the next county over, a deer came through a school bus windshield and nearly took out the kid sitting on the front row..... fortunately he was slumped over asleep so it was a glancing blow.

Thanks for the coat info! I'm no stranger to hide tanning and leatherworking, so maybe I'll give it a shot someday myself haha.
 
In my experience the only time deer care about scent or get a little cautious is deer season. I live in the country but im not like the wilderness. Here deer see smell and hear people doing people stuff every day. So they just dont care. During gun season witch is 6 days away they all of a sudden get smart.
Alas, I am not.... all deer-exterminating duties on the farm are are carried out by my family members 😔. I'm a good shot but don't like the thought of wounding one and having it run off.

I've dressed out plenty of them though! Probly oughta go ahead and plug one just to get past my hangup lol 😆
If you can't beat 'em, eat 'em. :cool:
 
I don't know the laws in your locality, but if you sell any of your produce you might be able to apply for a damage permit from your local game department. It allows you to shoot a certain number of deer out of season.

The deer population is CRAZY most areas right now.... this year our damage permit allowed us to take up to 40. Usually it's half that many. Them buggers is thicker'n ticks on a beagle butt half past August!!

Here i belive there is a minimum acre requirement to get them. The farmer is know gets about 120 a year. I dont qualify.
 
Alas, I am not.... all deer-exterminating duties on the farm are are carried out by my family members 😔. I'm a good shot but don't like the thought of wounding one and having it run off.

I've dressed out plenty of them though! Probly oughta go ahead and plug one just to get past my hangup lol 😆

I have only shot 1 that got away. Hunting on the edge of a evil movie swamp. Came out at 20 yards shot with a 12 gauge and ran back into the swamp. It was one of those ones that you have to turn backwards and push yourself through. Ankle to knee deep mud. I didnt hunt for 2 years after that I felt so bad. Now I use the baddest rifle allowed in my zone and reload it to maximum. Not one deer has took one step from that day forwad . I'd rather take the chance of damaging a little meat than do that again. Being single with no kids 3 deer a year is just right. I'd shoot these stupid things all year and give it to food pantries but there's some dumb law about meat not being fda approved . Makes no sense. We got thousands of these terds running everywhere and hungry people everywhere.
 
These YouTube videos are probably all worldly people; but directly asking "what do you bring to the table" is a way to quickly disqualify a person with a wrong answer. People ask this question to save themselves (and the other person) time.

If a woman asked me this question directly, I'd probably deflect the question; because it's better to show than tell. And If they're in that much of a hurry they can find somebody else anyway- so, they don't need to know. :)

I've seen some of these Youtube videos of men asking women this question; but I think it was to make a point that women were making assumptions about what wealthier men were interested in. The women were looking for men with money and thought they were also appealing because they made their own money; but that is generally not the case, and never has been.
 
I think it’s pretty standard nowadays. The dating scene has changed a lot, even for Christians.

Some would say the first date needs to be fun, lighthearted and joyful to build connection. Others (men and women) would say the first date should be cheap or free, like a coffee date or a walk, allowing them both to be 100% focused on the conversation rather than the food, the bill should be split 50/50 among them so neither of them are feeling used, and the date itself should be more like an interview to see if you’re compatible, so neither of them are wasting their time and resources. Me personally, I’d find a balance between the two. It’s possible to have fun and sprinkle in deeper questions. I’ve always paid for dates, and that’s only expected of men here in the states. Pretty much everywhere else in the world, the women are expected to initiate conversations with men and the first dates are always 50/50.

I feel it’s fair that anyone can ask any question about someone at any point in time when they’re dating, and the person asked should answer honestly.

You mentioned men are walking away from dating though. You’re right, and that brings up an important aspect as to why I feel it’s justified for a man to ask a woman these questions right away. Especially if he’s expected to pay for everything.

Men take all the risks and if they’re lucky, they receive the benefits. (I’d say roughly 20-30% of men and women are problematic, they’re typically not Christian, are ruining dating for the rest of us). Typically, men are expected to approach, which is terrible for a man’s self-esteem. Women usually don’t say “Oh, no thank you” anymore, they tend to look at men like they’re monsters, yell profanities telling them to go away or calling them creeps. So men usually don’t approach anymore. Typically, not always, men are expected to pay for everything. They’re expected to take on most if not all the burdens, and sometimes the debts. They’re expected to lead, plan and organize all of the activities, and sometimes are scoffed at or ghosted when they ask her for ideas, assuming he relationship actually makes it that far.

Say things go well, they’re in a relationship for years and they get married. Even have children. Things don’t usually get better. They become more fulfilling, but things get more complicated, especially for men since they‘re expected to provide. More kids means more mouths to feed, larger housing, bigger vehicles, etc. In the 1950’s, men could fill gas at a gas station or pour coffee at a diner and have enough cash to buy a home, a car and support a family of 4. The women could stay home, cook, clean, raise a family. Didn’t have to work a 9-to-5. The way things are now, it takes a very rich man with six figures or two incomes divided among him or them just to make ends meet. Feminism came into play, women wanted to work and the government saw that as a perfect opportunity to raise the prices on everything to the point where now both men and women have to work and take care of a family just to make it now. A good chunk of people can’t afford to have children without assistance.

Say things don’t go well, with divorces reaching 40-50% in the U.S., it’s safe to say men have a 50% chance of making it. And from a legal standpoint right now? This is where men (especially good men) get absolutely annihilated. The man or woman get bored, they get unhappy, they don’t love the person they married anymore. They cheat. Divorce comes next. A good man working 5-7 days a week sometimes comes home to a not-so-good woman who doesn’t want to cook, clean or take care of their children properly. She’s bored, she cheats, she breaks his heart and he can’t stand the sight of her anymore. He takes her to divorce court. Good thing he asked her to sign the prenup—right? Wrong. Prenuptial agreements get thrown out all the time. The court system is almost entirely in her favor, so long as she’s working and not addicted to substances. She takes half of his stuff, and between taxes, alimony and child support, he now makes half of what he was making when he was with her, sometimes it’s so bad he has to live in his car because he can’t afford rent for the cheapest apartments in the ghetto. Child support lasts until the children turn 18. Alimony lasts half of the time they were together. So if they’re married for 40 years, she gets 25% of his paycheck for the next 20 years. That’s the rest of his life. All because he was biologically born a male. How is that fair? It’s not. It’s a broken system created by corrupt officials. Let’s say they didn’t even make it to marriage and children. Say he made her mad because he paid $50 for dinner instead of $300. She can make a false allegation, get him fired, jail time while they take their sweet time investigating it, and he gets a permanent mark on his record as a predator. Doesn’t even need to be that much. One lady did it because she thought the guy she walked past in the parking lot looked creepy and ruined his life for it. Guilty until proven innocent.

So yeah—I fully understand why men are walking away. Because it’s just not worth it anymore. I also feel that men now have to be extremely cautious just to be around women, much less with one. And it’s their responsibility to make sure that she’s wife material. Coming home to warm food and a foot rub instead of a bed filled with his wife and two other men. Based on all of the risks that a man is taking, is it so much to ask that his wife treat him with loyalty and respect? To bring peace and comfort into his life rather than stress and chaos?

Now these AI girlfriends are popping up everywhere, robots are already on the market. Last year it’s become approximately a $2.8 billion dollar business. It’s expected to grow to $24.5 billion dollars by 2034. This has become man’s solution to the loneliness epidemic. Men get everything they want—minus children. Peace, love, nurturing, comfort, intimacy, within a decade or two, they’ll be cooking and cleaning, for a fraction of the price, with no risks. Women get a male companion thing with no heartbeat, no money for dates, no ambitions or plans or anything outside of external validation and a synthetic cure for loneliness, which isn’t sustainable for most women. Is that the Christian way? Heck no. Is it healthy? No. Is it moral? No. Are they getting genuine human connection? No. But is it safe? Absolutely.

All of which is sad. Life shouldn’t be like this. So to answer your question, is it okay for men to ask these questions on the first date, it’s a resounding yes. If it makes you uncomfortable, tell him you want to keep things fun and lighthearted the first date and you can talk more about serious stuff on the next date.

Okay, back into the shadows. I haven’t been on here a lot lately. I’m spending all of my free time and energy now focusing on growing and building my life and protecting it diligently until the right one shows up. Peace. ✌️
 
So to answer your question, is it okay for men to ask these questions on the first date, it’s a resounding yes. If it makes you uncomfortable, tell him you want to keep things fun and lighthearted the first date and you can talk more about serious stuff on the next date.

Hi Jared, just curious and wanting your take since you seem familiar with concept..... what kind of reply are the guys looking for when they ask that question? Are they asking about skills, talents, financial assets? It kinda seems like another way to say "Tell me about yourself, but I only want to hear the things I might like". 🤔
 
Hi Jared, just curious and wanting your take since you seem familiar with concept..... what kind of reply are the guys looking for when they ask that question? Are they asking about skills, talents, financial assets? It kinda seems like another way to say "Tell me about yourself, but I only want to hear the things I might like". 🤔
I can’t speak for all men, but when a good man asks “What do you bring to the table?” He’s asking about the values she brings to the relationship. Relationships aren’t “What do I get by being with you?” Which is what that question sounds like in subtext, but going into a relationship and being successful, the phrase “What can I offer to the other person?” Should always be in the forefront of your mind, male or female.

If she offers to cook, clean and take care of the children, those are some major green flags. If she says “I bring the vibes,” that’s really not what a man is looking for. He wants to see effort. He wants to know that when he comes home from a 12-hour shift that food is going to be warm and ready. He wants to cuddle up with his wife and take it easy after a long day. And a lot of women tend to do this backwards—they want the man to prove he’s husband material before she starts showing him affection. No, put your best foot forward right from the start. Both men and women.

In a good man’s eyes, a high value woman isn’t someone who makes a million dollars a year, or looks like a supermodel. He isn’t looking for a strong independent ”modern” woman, he values a traditional sweet, submissive woman. A woman who fully embraces her femininity and lets the man lead is far more powerful than a woman who tries to dominate the relationship, which is going to make him unhappy. Letting him lead? That’s staying power. That guarantees a happy marriage, so long as the man is treating her right. Happy wife, happy life? No. Happy wife, happy husband, happy life. Healthy relationships aren’t 50/50, they’re 100/100.

A high value woman in a good man’s eyes is a woman of virtue. Me personally, I’d take a 4/10 in looks and treats me right over a rich supermodel who treats me like garbage any day of the week. I’d rather be single than be with the latter. Men value purity above all else. He would rather be with a woman who hasn’t been with anyone or a handful of men compared to a woman who’s been with hundreds of men and is now carrying all of that baggage and trauma.

Virtues we all should all strive for…Authenticity. Beauty (not makeup, or surgical enhancements, natural beauty that comes from taking care of yourself with a healthy diet, exercise and making the right choices). Caring. Cleanliness. Commitment. Compassion. Confidence. Consideration. Contentment. Cooperation. Encouragement. Enthusiasm. Fairness. Faith. Flexibility. Forgiveness. Friendliness. Generosity. Gentleness. Graciousness. Gratitude. Harmoniousness. Helpfulness. Honesty. Honor. Hopefulness. Humility. Integrity. Joyfulness. Kindness. Love. Loyalty. Modesty. Optimism. Passionate. Patience. Peace (this is a big one). Perseverance. Reliability. Respect (another big one). Responsibility. Reverence. Self-discipline. Service. Sincerity. Tact. Temperate (self restraint). Tenacious (in terms of keeping the relationship afloat). Thankfulness. Tolerance. Trustworthy. Understanding. Unity (being a team player). Wisdom. Obviously no one on the planet has all of these traits other than Jesus, but striving to include these virtues in our lives and just try to improve 1% every day makes us better people and more suited to handle relationships. Men included.

For women, it’s far easier than men to have a relationship. The average woman has options. The average man typically doesn’t. Women tend to date the same guys who date all the time, going for the top 10% of men. Instead of shooting for the stars and trying to land with a guy who looks like Justin Timberlake or whatever guy is hot these days, try giving an average Joe a shot. Justin has options. He has his pick of about any woman he wants, so why would he pick you? Lower your standards a bit and go for an average 6-7/10 man who treats you right and values God, marriage, children and family as much as you do, and you’re guaranteed to be happy. If you wait for him to ask, you’re going to be alone. Go up to him, smile, make eye contact, put your hand on his arm or shoulder or back. You’d be surprised at how effective it is. Like I said, fully embracing your femininity is your most powerful tool as a woman, so use it. I’m actually very shy in person and it’s not my style to ask or pursue. My self-esteem is pretty much nonexistent at this point (I’m working on it), and I want to know a woman is into me before I ask her out. Otherwise I think she’s not interested. And a lot of guys tend not to ask because we can’t tell the difference between friendliness and genuine interest. So subtle hints like eye contact, smiling, playing with your hair, playful touching, etc. tend not to be a deal closer. Just something like “Hey, when can I see you again?” is all we need. If he’s not interested, then he saved you a bunch of time to spend finding someone who is.

Long story short, what anyone wants to see in a relationship is effort. Effort is very vague, but it’s the little things that add up to make one big, beautiful picture.

**Oh, off topic, but I was actually very ignorant when I wrote my last message. There are caveats when it comes to divorce that I wasn’t aware of. My apologies. Alimony depends on whether or not they were both working, and who is making more money. Child support is nullified if the children are split 50/50 which almost never happens. If they have evidence proving infidelity, alimony is thrown out of court.**
 
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I think it’s pretty standard nowadays. The dating scene has changed a lot, even for Christians.

Some would say the first date needs to be fun, lighthearted and joyful to build connection. Others (men and women) would say the first date should be cheap or free, like a coffee date or a walk, allowing them both to be 100% focused on the conversation rather than the food, the bill should be split 50/50 among them so neither of them are feeling used, and the date itself should be more like an interview to see if you’re compatible, so neither of them are wasting their time and resources. Me personally, I’d find a balance between the two. It’s possible to have fun and sprinkle in deeper questions. I’ve always paid for dates, and that’s only expected of men here in the states. Pretty much everywhere else in the world, the women are expected to initiate conversations with men and the first dates are always 50/50.

I feel it’s fair that anyone can ask any question about someone at any point in time when they’re dating, and the person asked should answer honestly.

You mentioned men are walking away from dating though. You’re right, and that brings up an important aspect as to why I feel it’s justified for a man to ask a woman these questions right away. Especially if he’s expected to pay for everything.

Men take all the risks and if they’re lucky, they receive the benefits. (I’d say roughly 20-30% of men and women are problematic, they’re typically not Christian, are ruining dating for the rest of us). Typically, men are expected to approach, which is terrible for a man’s self-esteem. Women usually don’t say “Oh, no thank you” anymore, they tend to look at men like they’re monsters, yell profanities telling them to go away or calling them creeps. So men usually don’t approach anymore. Typically, not always, men are expected to pay for everything. They’re expected to take on most if not all the burdens, and sometimes the debts. They’re expected to lead, plan and organize all of the activities, and sometimes are scoffed at or ghosted when they ask her for ideas, assuming he relationship actually makes it that far.

Say things go well, they’re in a relationship for years and they get married. Even have children. Things don’t usually get better. They become more fulfilling, but things get more complicated, especially for men since they‘re expected to provide. More kids means more mouths to feed, larger housing, bigger vehicles, etc. In the 1950’s, men could fill gas at a gas station or pour coffee at a diner and have enough cash to buy a home, a car and support a family of 4. The women could stay home, cook, clean, raise a family. Didn’t have to work a 9-to-5. The way things are now, it takes a very rich man with six figures or two incomes divided among him or them just to make ends meet. Feminism came into play, women wanted to work and the government saw that as a perfect opportunity to raise the prices on everything to the point where now both men and women have to work and take care of a family just to make it now. A good chunk of people can’t afford to have children without assistance.

Say things don’t go well, with divorces reaching 40-50% in the U.S., it’s safe to say men have a 50% chance of making it. And from a legal standpoint right now? This is where men (especially good men) get absolutely annihilated. The man or woman get bored, they get unhappy, they don’t love the person they married anymore. They cheat. Divorce comes next. A good man working 5-7 days a week sometimes comes home to a not-so-good woman who doesn’t want to cook, clean or take care of their children properly. She’s bored, she cheats, she breaks his heart and he can’t stand the sight of her anymore. He takes her to divorce court. Good thing he asked her to sign the prenup—right? Wrong. Prenuptial agreements get thrown out all the time. The court system is almost entirely in her favor, so long as she’s working and not addicted to substances. She takes half of his stuff, and between taxes, alimony and child support, he now makes half of what he was making when he was with her, sometimes it’s so bad he has to live in his car because he can’t afford rent for the cheapest apartments in the ghetto. Child support lasts until the children turn 18. Alimony lasts half of the time they were together. So if they’re married for 40 years, she gets 25% of his paycheck for the next 20 years. That’s the rest of his life. All because he was biologically born a male. How is that fair? It’s not. It’s a broken system created by corrupt officials. Let’s say they didn’t even make it to marriage and children. Say he made her mad because he paid $50 for dinner instead of $300. She can make a false allegation, get him fired, jail time while they take their sweet time investigating it, and he gets a permanent mark on his record as a predator. Doesn’t even need to be that much. One lady did it because she thought the guy she walked past in the parking lot looked creepy and ruined his life for it. Guilty until proven innocent.

So yeah—I fully understand why men are walking away. Because it’s just not worth it anymore. I also feel that men now have to be extremely cautious just to be around women, much less with one. And it’s their responsibility to make sure that she’s wife material. Coming home to warm food and a foot rub instead of a bed filled with his wife and two other men. Based on all of the risks that a man is taking, is it so much to ask that his wife treat him with loyalty and respect? To bring peace and comfort into his life rather than stress and chaos?

Now these AI girlfriends are popping up everywhere, robots are already on the market. Last year it’s become approximately a $2.8 billion dollar business. It’s expected to grow to $24.5 billion dollars by 2034. This has become man’s solution to the loneliness epidemic. Men get everything they want—minus children. Peace, love, nurturing, comfort, intimacy, within a decade or two, they’ll be cooking and cleaning, for a fraction of the price, with no risks. Women get a male companion thing with no heartbeat, no money for dates, no ambitions or plans or anything outside of external validation and a synthetic cure for loneliness, which isn’t sustainable for most women. Is that the Christian way? Heck no. Is it healthy? No. Is it moral? No. Are they getting genuine human connection? No. But is it safe? Absolutely.

All of which is sad. Life shouldn’t be like this. So to answer your question, is it okay for men to ask these questions on the first date, it’s a resounding yes. If it makes you uncomfortable, tell him you want to keep things fun and lighthearted the first date and you can talk more about serious stuff on the next date.

Okay, back into the shadows. I haven’t been on here a lot lately. I’m spending all of my free time and energy now focusing on growing and building my life and protecting it diligently until the right one shows up. Peace. ✌️
Perhaps all this is true where you live. It is not true down here in southwest tennessee.

If it is that bad for guys where you live, I recommend moving down here. We still got plenty of room.
 
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Perhaps all this is true where you live. It is not true down here in southwest tennessee.

If it is that bad for guys where you live, I recommend moving down here. We still got plenty of room.
You’re probably right. I am planning on moving to another state in a few years. I’ll just be a couple of states over from you.
 
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Recently, I have seen multiple Youtube videos of men "walking away" from dating and marriage due to their distaste of the "modern woman", feminism, etc. This is a separate discussion of its own. However, one thing these men want to know from their dates early on is what these women bring to the table. In fact, some men even directly ask the women what they bring to the table, and the women are often shocked and offended.

What do you think of this question, and how would you react? I think it is a valid question, but seems very transactional and probably not a good way to start a relationship. Especially, if a woman asks a man this question, I am certain a man would not like a woman questioning him this way.

And, to both men and women, if your date asked you this question, how would you respond?


Food I bring food to the table and then you better eat it like it or not. If I cooked you clean...got it? lol
 
Recently, I have seen multiple Youtube videos of men "walking away" from dating and marriage due to their distaste of the "modern woman", feminism, etc. This is a separate discussion of its own. However, one thing these men want to know from their dates early on is what these women bring to the table. In fact, some men even directly ask the women what they bring to the table, and the women are often shocked and offended.

What do you think of this question, and how would you react? I think it is a valid question, but seems very transactional and probably not a good way to start a relationship. Especially, if a woman asks a man this question, I am certain a man would not like a woman questioning him this way.

And, to both men and women, if your date asked you this question, how would you respond?

O.k. seriously, I bring myself and at 70 years old you take it or leave it. I have learned in all these years that you do not play games, you do not try and change yourself to fit their mold, you learn to lean on Jesus and trust He will see you through anything and then if you can learn to live with someone else's faults and accept them for who they are and you can truly be yourself around them then you just might have found a match. As long as the two of you keep God as the first and front of your relationship you will make it.

This is learned after many failed attempts at relationships and 35 years of single life between marriages. Wisdom and time are good teachers. God is the best teacher and sometimes waiting will yield a really good relationship.