Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Jordon said:
I had Rottweiler, Ben was his name and if you had a friend like Ben, you wouldn't be how you was.

And when the time came to say goodbye to ben, only then would you really value life
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I had a Rottweiler friend that I knew since she was a puppy.
She would lick my face clean when she would see me.

But, have a stranger around her?

You should know better.
 
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Genez said:
I had a Rottweiler friend that I knew since she was a puppy.
She would lick my face clean when she would see me.

But, have a stranger around her?

You should know better.
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depends on how you've trained them, no doubt your dog was savage 😬.
 
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Jordon said:
depends on how you've trained them, no doubt your dog was savage 😬.
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No no no no.....

It is a known trait Rottweilers when they get around "certain" strangers.
They are highly protective.
Even as a puppy she would act quite differently when a stranger wanted to come up and pet her.

It was inborn.
 
Genez said:
God chastises every one he receives as a son.

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For the Lord corrects and disciplines everyone whom He loves, and He punishes, ​
even scourges, every son whom He accepts and welcomes to His heart and cherishes." Hebrews 12:6​

Angels are also called, "sons of God."
And, up until Lucifer rejected his last chance?
The Lord loved Lucifer as a son.

God punished Lucifer as a son in hopes he would learn that he was not as powerful and smart as he deluded himself into thinking he was. God wanted Lucifer to repent.

Or, did God's nature somehow change?
When God created them, God loved all the angels.
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ah I see what's happening m,

You need help with a bad spirit, it's looking for answers, but probably more like getting you to question his authority to.

It's probably the kind that performs lying miracles to, how long have you had it ?
 
Genez said:
No no no no.....

It is a known trait Rottweilers when they get around "certain" strangers.
They are highly protective.
Even as a puppy she would act quite differently when a stranger wanted to come up and pet her.

It was inborn.
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How did it react to calvinists

Did it bite there heads off 🤩
 
Yes, we can exercise free will. How would we know otherwise unless we didn’t have the will to exercise it? In order to say we didn’t, one would have to be using their free will to say they are not. And if someone says they have free will, then they are using their free will to say we have free will, and they are also using their free will to deny the idea that we do not have free will. So whether one believes or doesn’t believe in free will, they are either using it to affirm it, or they are using it to deny it.
 
Blue155 said:
Yes, we can exercise free will. How would we know otherwise unless we didn’t have the will to exercise it? In order to say we didn’t, one would have to be using their free will to say they are not. And if someone says they have free will, then they are using their free will to say we have free will, and they are also using their free will to deny the idea that we do not have free will. So whether one believes or doesn’t believe in free will, they are either using it to affirm it, or they are using it to deny it.
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Yep you can , but can only because the flesh likes to do what it wants.

It just amazes me tho how people can believe more in free will than they do God .
 
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Genez said:
God chastises every one he receives as a son.

​
For the Lord corrects and disciplines everyone whom He loves, and He punishes, ​
even scourges, every son whom He accepts and welcomes to His heart and cherishes." Hebrews 12:6​

Angels are also called, "sons of God."
And, up until Lucifer rejected his last chance?
The Lord loved Lucifer as a son.

God punished Lucifer as a son in hopes he would learn that he was not as powerful and smart as he deluded himself into thinking he was. God wanted Lucifer to repent.

Or, did God's nature somehow change?
When God created them, God loved all the angels.
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you know genez, you don't have to do it all alone, but I just wonder How long have you been getting attacked by this creature and how frequent does it disturb your thoughts ? 🤔
 
Jordon said:
Yep you, but can only because the flesh likes to do what it wants.

It just amazes me tho how people can believe more in free will than they do God .
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It amazes me how people believe free will and God are incompatible, as if believing someone who believes they have free will means they believe in it more than God, when God is the one who has given them free will.
 
Blue155 said:
It amazes me how people believe free will and God are incompatible, as if believing someone who believes they have free will means they believe in it more than God, when God is the one who has given them free will.
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Well you know you have to ask would God give a person free will when he has fallen ?

I mean he prevented him from eating from the tree of life didn't he.

Can't call that letting a fallen man live by this free will he apparently gave them can you ?
 
Jordon said:
Well you know you have to ask would God give a person free will when he has fallen ?

I mean he prevented him from eating from the tree of life didn't he.

Can't call that letting a fallen man live by this free will he apparently gave them can you ?
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So, God doesn’t have the capability, capacity, or the power to give someone free will? Free will is stronger than God? In what way does God prevent others from sinning?
 
Jordon said:
ah I see what's happening m,

You need help with a bad spirit, it's looking for answers, but probably more like getting you to question his authority to.

It's probably the kind that performs lying miracles to, how long have you had it ?
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How long have you had yours?

You keep giving away your true motives...
 
Blue155 said:
So, God doesn’t have the capability, capacity, or the power to give someone free will? Free will is stronger than God? In what way does God prevent others from sinning?
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well you could ask him with free will in mind, because your flesh is allowed to do what it wants but not by him it's not.

But what you could do is ask him with your free will, in sure he will be big enough your only human.

Say hey God is human reasoning over your authority acceptable.

I'm sure he will answer to your free will 🤩
 
Jordon said:
well you could ask him with free will in mind, because your flesh is allowed to do what it wants but not by him it's not.

But what you could do is ask him with your free will, in sure he will be big enough your only human.

Say hey God is human reasoning over your authority acceptable.

I'm sure he will answer to your free will 🤩
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So, God is not powerful enough, wise enough, sovereign enough, etc etc to give man free will, because it would then be stronger than Him and His sovereignty, supreme authority?

So, He has given us free will to be able to allow to do what our flesh wants, but not given us free will to be able to do what He wants?
 
Genez said:
How long have you had yours?

You keep giving away your true motives...
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ah I see it's like that is it buddy. It's well and truly got a a hold on you, it's. a shame, my mum helped many people beat addiction all her life.

But when you can't admit you need help sadly these creatures have taken more from you than you realise.
 
Blue155 said:
So, God is not powerful enough, wise enough, sovereign enough, etc etc to give man free will, because it would then be stronger than Him and His sovereignty, supreme authority?
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never asked you that m, I asked you to ask him a question, I would not think he was all powerful if he could not answer you...
 
Jordon said:
never asked you that m, I asked you to ask him a question, I would not think he was all powerful if he could not answer you...
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Cool! So has God given me the free will to be able to ask Him that as a Christian?
 
Jordon said:
you have to wonder where that idea came from.

Ask him if that was your idea or his
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Ok, so God did not give me the ability to be able to form ideas? Is God not powerful enough to give me the ability to be able to think and reason?
 
Blue155 said:
Ok, so God did not give me the ability to be able to form ideas? Is God not powerful enough to give me the ability to be able to think and reason?
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did he tell that m.

Sounds about right that he formed you to be able to think.


Maybe you should ask him if it's possible to have a hard time thinking because of what everybody else thinks.
 
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