Charlie Kirk - so what now ?

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ZNP said:
So the head of the FBI and Charlie Kirk's wife don't know if they caught they guy and yet you do?
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Hide and watch - the guy they arrested who told his pervert friends that he did it is the guy they will be put in trial and will be convicted.



ZNP said:
So then nothing controversial about Charlie Kirk? I get it, a very droll sense of humor. LOL
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His point prove Candice Owens is a fraud, a liar, and a heretic (she's catholic)




ZNP said:
Judging someone without giving them a chance to speak is condemned in the Bible. Only a heretic or false prophet would teach people to do that.
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The guy that shot Charlie Kirk has spoken - to his pervert friends admitting he did the shooting.

He's had his opportunity to speak and it's one of several pieces of evidence against him that will bring conviction.

Even if his lawyers somehow get him off, he's a pervert so he'll going to hell no matter how you slice it.




seed_time_harvest said:
What exactly did you mean by, we should not take pleasure in it?
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Those that know the Lord know what is meant by not taking pleasure in having to correct people who are being deceived by the devil.




ZNP said:
having seen him a few times on Steve Bannon's show.
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Amazing that you listen to all the far right crazy people who don't know the Lord any more than those on the left do.




ZNP said:
he was fully involved with the deep state
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Speculation you cannot prove.

You must have gotten that from nutjobs such as Candace Owen and Steve Bannon clueless-doh.gif
 
StanDupp said:
Hide and watch - the guy they arrested who told his pervert friends that he did it is the guy they will be put in trial and will be convicted.





His point prove Candice Owens is a fraud, a liar, and a heretic (she's catholic)






The guy that shot Charlie Kirk has spoken - to his pervert friends admitting he did the shooting.

He's had his opportunity to speak and it's one of several pieces of evidence against him that will bring conviction.

Even if his lawyers somehow get him off, he's a pervert so he'll going to hell no matter how you slice it.






Those that know the Lord know what is meant by not taking pleasure in having to correct people who are being deceived by the devil.






Amazing that you listen to all the far right crazy people who don't know the Lord any more than those on the left do.






Speculation you cannot prove.

You must have gotten that from nutjobs such as Candace Owen and Steve Bannon View attachment 281677
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I made it clear where I got my information from, trying to distort that calls into question your credibility. You have been on this forum for two weeks, during this time people have been able to get to know a little about you, and whether or not it is worth engaging in dialogue with you. I find you to be judgmental and self righteous and now let's include insulting and arrogant. This post is an example of of those qualities.
 
Summary of what we know so far

Here are questions and facts concerning the assassination.

1. The Feds say a 30-06 bullet severed Charlies spine in his neck. This would seem to be absurd because if that bullet had severed the spine it would have decapitated Charlie. So this is the first very big question. Why would they be disingenuous about this?

2. How was it that security did not see this man on the roof with a gun?

3. How was this man able to walk away after shooting Charlie while carrying a rifle?

4. TPUSA is a very powerful political organization. Donald Trump and several other politicians gave this organization credit for getting him elected.

5. As a result of this assassination Erika Kirk became the CEO of TPUSA.

6. Also, immediately after this assassination, after Erika Kirk took control she canceled the full audit that Charlie had scheduled because of concerns over how the money donated to this non profit was being spent.

7. Charlie’s mom and sister both feel something is wrong with Erika and have said so. This is why they refused to come to the Memorial in Phoenix.

8. Charlie’s father also refused to come to the Memorial in Phoenix.

9. Some of the long time donors to TPUSA have frozen their donations after the audit was cancelled because of the lack of transparency.

10. Erika Kirk has direct links to the military industrial complex, her father is an executive for Raytheon and was instrumental in the building of Israel’s Iron Dome and her mother runs a company based in Arizona that receives military contracts. Erika herself ran a charity out of Romania called “Romanian Angels” for orphans. She also knew Trump prior to meeting Charlie because she was in his beauty pageants.

11. Erika Kirk was on Jesse Watters show and was interviewed, He asked her if she thought the person that was in custody was the one who killed her husband and was solely responsible. She refused to answer that question saying only that she trusts the investigators will find the truth.

12. The director of the FBI was also asked and said it was an ongoing investigation, they have not closed it yet and they are not claiming anything more than that the man in custody was involved. So neither Erika nor the FBI director are claiming the man in custody is the one who killed Charlie, they are not claiming the investigation is over, they are not even claiming they know who killed Charlie.

13. Meanwhile we have several very outspoken members of this thread with StanDupp being the latest one, telling people to shut up, the case is closed. Think of the arrogance to say this when the FBI director and Charlie’s widow won’t even say that. StanDupp is saying that anyone who does not go along with his demand that the case is closed is getting “The Clueless Award”. He also refers to anyone who is questioning this and concerned with the truth about what happened as liars, cheats, frauds and heretics.

Which of course raises the question, why would anyone, especially some guy who has only been on this forum for two weeks be so intent on shutting down any discussion about the Charlie Kirk Assassination?
 
ThereRoseaLamb said:
She's off the reservation and completely off her rocker. She fell down the rabbit hole and is never coming back. Not unless she has a real encounter with God.
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She also has the biggest podcast in the world and getting fired by Shapiro was the best thing that happened to her career.
 
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StanDupp said:
Hide and watch - the guy they arrested who told his pervert friends that he did it is the guy they will be put in trial and will be convicted.





His point prove Candice Owens is a fraud, a liar, and a heretic (she's catholic)






The guy that shot Charlie Kirk has spoken - to his pervert friends admitting he did the shooting.

He's had his opportunity to speak and it's one of several pieces of evidence against him that will bring conviction.

Even if his lawyers somehow get him off, he's a pervert so he'll going to hell no matter how you slice it.






Those that know the Lord know what is meant by not taking pleasure in having to correct people who are being deceived by the devil.






Amazing that you listen to all the far right crazy people who don't know the Lord any more than those on the left do.






Speculation you cannot prove.

You must have gotten that from nutjobs such as Candace Owen and Steve Bannon View attachment 281677
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@StanDupp : Good comments, brother!
 
OLDBUTNEW said:
You do all realise that Erica, Charlie's widow, could be on here reading these comments about her late husband, don't you?!!
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I would think anyone who loved Charlie, including his mother and sister and other servants of God that knew him would be moved and encouraged to see people all over the globe who are talking about him and are concerned with finding out who killed him and why. Granted there are some insulting posts on here directed at Charlie, but nothing that he didn't encounter everyday in his campus ministry. That was the field he was called to work in and so I don't think those that knew him would be bothered by those comments. If you work in the fields you will get muddy boots, no different.
 
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I have seen rumors on the internet about Erika. Whatever the truth is will come out in the wash, time will tell. If these things are true it will be known soon enough, and if they aren't true then everyone will be happy to not have participated in spreading gossip.

Related to this some people are sharing things that are not rumors, they are from Erika's past. The way I see it, everyone can have a past. I think who she is is relevant, who she was, not so much. Again, once she chose to be the CEO of Turning Point she opened the door for people to investigate her and examine everything. You can't be the CEO when you want to go on National TV and then claim you are the grieving widow who wants privacy when people are publishing things from your past. It is one or the other.

Also it depends a lot on what Turning Point is. If it is designed to be a political organization to help get out the conservative vote on college campuses, these stories are not offensive. It is only if you consider Turning Point to be a Christian ministry preaching the gospel to bring salvation to kids on campus. We will see what direction she takes Turning Point in.
 
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Dude653 said:
Candace Owens


Specific examples of her controversial statements include:
  • Holocaust Denial and Distortion: In a July 2024 podcast, she denied that Nazi medical experiments took place, calling accounts of them "bizarre propaganda." She also referred to the Holocaust as an "ethnic cleansing that almost took place" while claiming the Allies "actually did" an ethnic cleansing of Germans after World War II.
  • Promotion of Antisemitic Conspiracy Theories:
    • She has frequently promoted the "blood libel" conspiracy theory, a centuries-old false charge that Jews use the blood of Christian children for ritual purposes.
    • She suggested that the assassination of President John F. Kennedy was orchestrated by Israel or a pro-Israel entity.
    • She has claimed that a "small ring of specific people who are using the fact they are Jewish to shield themselves from any criticism" are involved in something "quite sinister" in Hollywood and Washington, D.C..
    • She has claimed that Jewish philanthropist George Soros funded the Black Lives Matter movement to destabilize the U.S., an antisemitic trope.
    • She has propagated the Khazar conspiracy theory, which falsely claims Ashkenazi Jews are not ethnically Jewish but descendants of a converted kingdom, often used to undermine the Jewish connection to Israel.
    • She has insinuated that Israel had advance knowledge of the 9/11 attacks.
  • Defending Antisemitic Figures: She initially defended Kanye West following his antisemitic remarks, later mocking Jewish fears over his comments.
  • Attacks on Judaism and Israel:
    • She has referred to Israel as a "cult nation" and an "occult nation".
    • She has made claims that Judaism is a "pedophile-centric religion that believes in demons... [and] child sacrifice".
    • She has suggested that Christians should be "very careful" when discussing the role of "the Jews" in Jesus' persecution, a common theme in Christian antisemitism.
  • Liking an Antisemitic Post: Her departure from The Daily Wire was finalized after she liked a social media post that asked a prominent rabbi if he was "drunk on Christian blood again".
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Sometimes, the truth seems offensive to those whose cherished beliefs it disproves. I'd be open to discuss the trustworthiness of Candace Owens' claims on a different thread, if it would be permitted by the site. As I said before, though, she brings receipts. No one can disprove what she says, as she backs it up with proof. Therefore the hateful slander against her, instead of open debate.

Also the reason her podcast has become the world number one - people are looking for the uncomfortable truth, rather than the comfortable lies they have accepted for so many years.
 
Charlesiii said:
Sometimes, the truth seems offensive to those whose cherished beliefs it disproves. I'd be open to discuss the trustworthiness of Candace Owens' claims on a different thread, if it would be permitted by the site. As I said before, though, she brings receipts. No one can disprove what she says, as she backs it up with proof. Therefore the hateful slander against her, instead of open debate.

Also the reason her podcast has become the world number one - people are looking for the uncomfortable truth, rather than the comfortable lies they have accepted for so many years.
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People are looking for entertainment and during the process they are lost in the game.
The trail of breadcrumbs doesn’t bring them home anymore.
They’re lost in the woods. They become the show themselves.
 
ZNP said:
She also has the biggest podcast in the world and getting fired by Shapiro was the best thing that happened to her career.
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she's not the biggest podcast in the world by any stretch of the imagination.
look at Joe rogan's numbers versus Candace Owens
 
Dude653 said:
she's not the biggest podcast in the world by any stretch of the imagination.
look at Joe rogan's numbers versus Candace Owens
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She was specific, she was not talking about in the US but worldwide. She also said this took place with this most recent podcast. So tell me where I would look to see how many people are viewing any given podcast worldwide?

I think one conclusion is certain and that is that she is doing very well ever since leaving Ben Shapiro. Her being fired has been a blessing to her, not a curse. She expressed nothing but thanksgiving to all those who had been involved in having her fired.
 
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