Charlie Kirk - so what now ?

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I think the 'logic' goes something like this -

1. CK was murdered by a US agency, US military, a foreign gov't, aliens from space, or an elite squad of ninja cats,. Maybe it's all of them. CO & company are on the case and working it all out for us. Tune in to her $how to find out.
2. For 1. to be true, actual evidence must be rejected and denied.
3. If CK's wife and friends are not willing to deny the evidence and believe the conspiracy, then they never loved CK.
4. If they never loved CK, then they could be complicit in his murder - updated theory coming soon.
yeah that's some real mental gymnastics there
 
I find it useful to question the official narrative. I find it useful that we want to be sure we are finding the true killer and what truly took place and not simply accept some patsy handed to us.

I have no idea about the love between Charlie and Erika.

However, she is not simply a grieving widow, she is also the new CEO of Turning Point USA. I agree with those taking issue of anyone harassing someone who is grieving for the loss of a loved one. That is simply wrong. I also agree with those who want to look at the resume of the new CEO, telling them they can't, well that is simply wrong too.

Question everything and verify. It's the verification part that's the problem here. It's a whole different case when someone publicly presents their theory as truth to millions of followers with no receipts, no evidence, no actual proof. At that point it's just rumors and lies with no regard to who they're hurting, harassing, and destroying.

I don't know anything about Erika Kirk and I don't hold her - or anyone else - up as an untouchable icon. She's a public figure and will therefore be scrutinized. That's fine, but scrutiny needs to be based on verifiable and proven facts.

Regarding Erika Kirk as CEO: Are TPUSA Board elections open to public vote and subject to public demands? If not, I don't see the problem here. They can elect who they want and keep details private if they want. If people don't agree, don't support TPUSA. Simples.

To consider: Not everything is meant for public consumption. Not everything is the public's business. The public doesn't have an automatic right to demand private details about everyone and everything. Privacy should be respected where applicable.
 
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Knock it off. No one said anyone had to worship Kirk. My Lord, get a grip!! If people did a march against Kennedy, JFK, and laughingly pointed a gun and mimicked his head exploding, would you consider that a normal person???

"Hope the bullet's OK after hitting Kirk", "Thoughts and prayers you Nazi bi#ch", A South Dakota faculty member has been suspended for posting "I don't give a flying f--k about this Kirk person. Apparently he was a hate-spreading Nazi.. "I'll praise the shooter; he had good aim". Just a few of the comments made about Kirk. How would YOU feel if that was your child? Do they have a right to say it, yep. But their boss also has the right to fire them. And they don't even have to ask HeIsHere's thoughts and opinions on it.

i still have no idea who he is.

but i weirdly feel like i am going to get doxxed and receive death threats for saying so.

imo the less media we consume, the better. it's toxic.
 
i still have no idea who he is.

but i weirdly feel like i am going to get doxxed and receive death threats for saying so.

imo the less media we consume, the better. it's toxic.
the same people who say you can't dare say anything critical of Charlie Kirk are the same people who mocked the death of George Floyd, celebrated the death of Ruth ginsburg, laugh about ice tearing families apart, said Californians deserve to have their houses burned, are currently gloating about people going hungry..... ect...
 
the same people who say you can't dare say anything critical of Charlie Kirk are the same people who mocked the death of George Floyd, celebrated the death of Ruth ginsburg, laugh about ice tearing families apart, said Californians deserve to have their houses burned, are currently gloating about people going hungry..... ect...

Weird times bro.
I hope the left will learn something but I doubt it.
 
i still have no idea who he is.

but i weirdly feel like i am going to get doxxed and receive death threats for saying so.

imo the less media we consume, the better. it's toxic.

He was a young guy who had a vision to stop the propaganda being spread in colleges around the US. He was a Christian and that was his worldview. He answered questions from young people on campus according to his conservative/Biblical POV because he felt radical liberal profs were brainwashing the youth of this country. And yet he's the one people are now saying he was a Nazi, white supremacist and Lord knows what else. Ironic.
 
the same people who say you can't dare say anything critical of Charlie Kirk are the same people who mocked the death of George Floyd, celebrated the death of Ruth ginsburg, laugh about ice tearing families apart, said Californians deserve to have their houses burned, are currently gloating about people going hungry..... ect...


What a jumbled mess of nonsense. I posted the "criticisms" of Charlie Kirk. If you want to shoot your stupid mouth off you can, but it can also get your dumb a$$ fired, life lesson learned. George Floyd lived and died a criminal, but the vast majority of the country agreed that the cops were wrong and they were held accountable. Celebrated Gingsburgs death? None of these dumb millennials even knew who she was until they did a movie about her. smh If Californians are going to keep voting in people like greasy Newscum, they will continue to get what they get. No one deserves to lose their home. But if you vote in a moron who thinks a tiny fish is worth more than a human life, expect to be treated accordingly. The Dems are the ones gloating about the shut down, put blame where it is due. ICE are doing their jobs. If you came here illegally, you're a criminal and you need to go home, where you came from. They've told you to go. All kinds of people have taken the money and gone. You don't have a right to stay if you're illegal, period.
 
the same people who say you can't dare say anything critical of Charlie Kirk are the same people who mocked the death of George Floyd, celebrated the death of Ruth ginsburg, laugh about ice tearing families apart, said Californians deserve to have their houses burned, are currently gloating about people going hungry..... ect...
The rejoicing at the Lord's death is the sign.

Matthew 16:1 The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven.

There are many prophecies that have been fulfilled, but regardless, if your heart is not right with the Lord they will not help you see Him. Chuck Missler did a statistical analysis calculating the odds of a number of prophecies all being fulfilled as over a trillion to one, but again, if your heart is not right you will not see Jesus Christ the Messiah. We can share signs and wonders and prophetic fulfillment and the mysteries of the kingdom, but in order to receive this you need to pray, open your heart to the Lord and ask Him to enlighten you.

2 He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red. 3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

Right now the sky is red, it is filled with blood. I saw a video about what is going on in China. They evaluate all students and they put special clothes on them so they can track their location at all times. Then students go "missing" and the evidence indicates the kids are being snatched for body parts for elites. In the US they have become rabidly insistent on abortions up to the time of birth. They estimate that since abortions were legalized in the US there have been over 63 million of them. Then of course take a look at the wars around the earth and the gang violence on the streets of the US. The heavens are filled with blood. What does that mean? Well it depends, is this your evening or your morning? When Jesus was crucified was that the end of your day, the end of your hope? Or, was that the sun rising on your day as without the light exposing sins and convicting people you would be free to do as you please? When the saints get raptured then the Antichrist, the man of lawlessness, will no longer be restrained and will be manifested to the world. The earth is round, for some people the sun is going down on them while at the very same time for others the sun is rising. This is a sign, which person are you? Where is your heart? This chapter presents the Pharisees to us and it also presents the disciples.

4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

We are told this repeatedly in the gospels. In other places Jesus says this when they officially rejected Him as the Messiah saying He was casting out demons by Beelzebub. He pronounced judgment on them saying they had committed the unforgivable sin, if you reject Jesus Christ as the Messiah then there is no way to be forgiven of your sins. When God pronounces judgement through the prophets He will accompany it with a sign. The sign of Jonah is that he was three days and nights in the belly of the great fish. The Ninevites had been told that this is what they would see, so it was a sign that had been prophesied to them. In addition to this sign Jonah walked to and fro throughout Nineveh telling them to repent for forty days. Now they did repent and as a result God did relent. He did not destroy the city immediately, instead it was a few hundred years later that the judgment came. So just like Jonah and that sign we see that there are two kinds of people, those for whom seeing Jesus crucified causes them to repent, and those for whom it causes them to be revealed as men of lawlessness.

But this brings us to the central point, why are they seeking a sign? The rapture will be a huge sign, and some have been seeking to know when the rapture will be. Why? There is this thought that you can live your whole life in sin and then at the last moment you can repent and be saved. If you are walking with the Lord every day, if your life is fully given to Him, does it really matter when? For you knowing who the Lord is, that is what is important, that is what you are seeking. But if you are an adulterer you don't want the rapture to take place while you are committing adultery. If you are a wicked person committing lawlessness you don't want to be in the midst of committing some evil crime when the Lord returns. For you knowing "when" is so essential. Only a wicked and adulterous person would have such a plan. The problem for them of course is they have to know when to repent which is why we are told that for them it will come as a surprise. The Lord is going to return when someone who is wicked and adulterous will be the most tempted to commit sin. God is a discerner of the hearts and this event is going to divide the earth from those who mourn at the Lord's death from those who rejoiced.
 
Thank you brother, reminds of the reference of "those with ears to hear", and parable of the seeds cast, some fell on good soil, most did not. We must be good soil.
I and I am sure others pray for Dude that he come around, no longer living such that he opens the door for further evil in his life.
That dump of the abundance of his heart was telling.
blessings:)(y):coffee:
 
It would appear the counterterror chief doesn't think a conspiracy to murder Charlie Kirk is so far fetched - "Kash Patel shuts down Charlie Kirk foreign intelligence probe in explosive feud with Trump’s counterterror chief". Certainly, the matter should be thoroughly investigated, and the public are losing faith that the FBI has the direction or ability to achieve this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15238181/Charlie-Kirk-White-House-Patel.html
 
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It would appear the counterterror chief doesn't think a conspiracy to murder Charlie Kirk is so far fetched - "Kash Patel shuts down Charlie Kirk foreign intelligence probe in explosive feud with Trump’s counterterror chief". Certainly, the matter should be thoroughly investigated, and the public are losing faith that the FBI has the direction or ability to achieve this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15238181/Charlie-Kirk-White-House-Patel.html
Anyone having a problem with a thorough investigation of this assassination tells you all you need to know. I would not even bother responding to them.
 
What a jumbled mess of nonsense. I posted the "criticisms" of Charlie Kirk. If you want to shoot your stupid mouth off you can, but it can also get your dumb a$$ fired, life lesson learned. George Floyd lived and died a criminal, but the vast majority of the country agreed that the cops were wrong and they were held accountable. Celebrated Gingsburgs death? None of these dumb millennials even knew who she was until they did a movie about her. smh If Californians are going to keep voting in people like greasy Newscum, they will continue to get what they get. No one deserves to lose their home. But if you vote in a moron who thinks a tiny fish is worth more than a human life, expect to be treated accordingly. The Dems are the ones gloating about the shut down, put blame where it is due. ICE are doing their jobs. If you came here illegally, you're a criminal and you need to go home, where you came from. They've told you to go. All kinds of people have taken the money and gone. You don't have a right to stay if you're illegal, period.
there's a difference between supporting law and order and literally being giddy about another person suffering.
 
Anyone having a problem with a thorough investigation of this assassination tells you all you need to know. I would not even bother responding to them.
Perhaps they already know what truly transpired and need to keep the further work under wraps?
blessings
 
there's a difference between supporting law and order and literally being giddy about another person suffering.

Anyone giddy about someone suffering isn't right in the head. Dems caused this shutdown and like they said, this is their only playing card against Trump. They don't care about who suffers. Put the blame where it's due for once.
 
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criminal investigations go where the evidence leads and no crime would ever get solved if they wasted time chasing down rabbit trails by cuckoo YouTubers
 
criminal investigations go where the evidence leads and no crime would ever get solved if they wasted time chasing down rabbit trails by cuckoo YouTubers
Kash Patel is not basing his investigation on your posts on Youtube. Thank God.

No, we are simply quoting him here so that people know who the cuckoo's are on this thread in contrast to who is actually in charge of this investigation.
 
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Kash Patel is not basing his investigation on your posts on Youtube. Thank God.

No, we are simply quoting him here so that people know who the cuckoo's are on this thread in contrast to who is actually in charge of this investigation.
I'm going back and forth with you on various issues for years on this forum and you always think everything is some evil conspiracy
 
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I'm going back and forth with you on various issues for years on this forum and you always think everything is some evil conspiracy
Everything? Are you talking about the assassination of Charlie Kirk? Yes, I think that was evil and yes, I think it is highly likely that at least three people were involved making it a conspiracy.
 
He was a young guy who had a vision to stop the propaganda being spread in colleges around the US. He was a Christian and that was his worldview. He answered questions from young people on campus according to his conservative/Biblical POV because he felt radical liberal profs were brainwashing the youth of this country. And yet he's the one people are now saying he was a Nazi, white supremacist and Lord knows what else. Ironic.

can you prove these statements?

i've also heard he pretended to be Christian but radically misrepresented Biblical Christian worldview, and that he professionally manipulated unprepared college-age youth in debate, then heavily edited video of those debates, specifically to further a particular secular worldview, and at the same time interacted a few times with actually prepared and educated debate opponents and was utterly destroyed in argumentation -- footage of which he of course did not not post himself, but is available.

given the current climate, i am literally afraid to find out what the facts are because i could lose my livelihood for searching for the truth. if i google to find a debate of him losing, i might be tracked and targeted and my life destroyed and my family's lives put at risk just for trying to find out.


what i understand is that he made a living on youtube by manipulatively abusing unprepared, ignorant youths in debates on college campuses for purely secular reasons, not religious reasons, and had a big following on heavily edited, very misrepresentative, inflammatory youtube videos, from which he drew a lot of money, and were sponsored by secular far right political groups.


this might not be correct but as i said, if i try to dig, there is a danger that i will be literally threatened with murder and that i will lose my livelihood.



my question is how is this someone that we think we should be erecting a monument to in our nations capital if (1) i don't have a clue who he is (2) the indications i can glean is that he is a 4th rate trickster capitalizing on super manipulative completely secular political waves (3) actually finding out - or even trying to find out - who he is and what he did carries an implicit threat of destroying your livelihood or evening being murdered (4) if you did find out he wasn't someone worthy of a monument to his glory and ever said something you would certainly be threatened with murder and lose your job for saying so.



all i have is what you tell me and a few headlines.
i literally am afraid to put his name in a search bar, because my family may starve to death if i click on the wrong search result.



just posting this reply, on CC, saying i don't know who this is and the little i have heard of him indicates he was a scumbag, i am literally afraid that you personally are going to find out who i am, where i work, get me fired, make sure i can never get another job, and then come murder my wife.


how is this "free speech"
 
just posting this reply, on CC, saying i don't know who this is and the little i have heard of him indicates he was a scumbag, i am literally afraid that you personally are going to find out who i am, where i work, get me fired, make sure i can never get another job, and then come murder my wife.

if i did not have full assurance of my salvation,
that neither my life, my comfort, nor the life of comfort of my family compares in the slightest to the eternal life i have in Christ Jesus, i would not dare make any mention in writing anywhere of the name of c. kirk without saying he was the best human ever and storybooks should be written of him.

i mean go ahead and destroy my life and murder my family. what i'm saying is wtf is this guy, why should i care, why are we destroying people's lives in "the free speech capital of the world" over saying wait, wtf is this guy? why do i care?

and what i'm saying is why does it not bother you that people's lives are being destroyed for their free speech about this, whoever this is...?
 
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