God's View on Clumsiness?

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StanDupp said:
Have you tried paying attention to what you are doing and believing the Lord for His help so you aren't clumsy?

Clumsy people are going to cause someone to get killed and/or cause destruction of property.
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I do not feel comfortable confirming more details of my personal experience of life, so I am going to continue hypothetically.

Also, although I understand that position as you are a business owner / manager, I ask where the line is to be drawn? Because, as you doubtless know, even "non-clumsy" people will inevitably make serious mistakes that could result in death and destruction to others! Obviously a clumsy person is more likely to do so, and that's your point, but still.
So what is God's solution to the clumsy man problem?
 
SilverBigBack said:
So what is God's solution to the clumsy man problem?
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The answer is in His Word.

But, the Lord does not force anybody to partake of His divine nation thru His promises (2 Peter 1:4) so the final answer will come when Jesus casts all those that refuse to obey the Gospel in to hell and the only ones left are the ones in submission to the Lord.
 
StanDupp said:
Very obviously the so called reformers did not know God's Word that well at all.
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If they had they would not have been tricked by the devil to become murderers View attachment 281232

They certainly did not have the Holy Spirit - 1 John 3:15
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My point was that Luther, by his actions, BECAME a murderer by what he did and turned from the path proclaimed by Christ. It takes no great theologian to understand that it is possible not not to deviate from that path. Luther chose what he became.
 
SilverBigBack said:
What?
Can't you just post it again? Because you are right, I did miss it, as it appears there is nothing?
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Yep, looks like your inability to read my last few posts and find the scripture reference that I posted is causing you to be left out.

Sorry pal, that's how the old ball bounces sometimes.



JimiSurvivor said:
My point was that Luther, by his actions, BECAME a murderer by what he did and turned from the path proclaimed by Christ. It takes no great theologian to understand that it is possible not not to deviate from that path. Luther chose what he became.
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Yeah Luther and Calvin both got played by a low level devil.

Those boys weren't the sharpest tools in the shed ya know.

All they had to do with go back to God's Word, but they followed the wisdom of man instead.

It's a cautionary tale for the rest of us to not depart from what God says in His Word.
 
StanDupp said:
Yep, looks like your inability to read my last few posts and find the scripture reference that I posted is causing you to be left out.

Sorry pal, that's how the old ball bounces sometimes.





Yeah Luther and Calvin both got played by a low level devil.

Those boys weren't the sharpest tools in the shed ya know.

All they had to do with go back to God's Word, but they followed the wisdom of man instead.

It's a cautionary tale for the rest of us to not depart from what God says in His Word.
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Oh good. I'm glad you found your home.

I told you this was a better forum for your kind of arguing. Lots of people here of like mind - acerbic.
 
SilverBigBack said:
What does the Bible have to say about all this?

A verse that come to my mind is I Cor. 1:27 "But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong"
But, in the context of workplace clumsiness, does God not call us to excellence and good works? Do we not glorify him most when we do our job(s) well?
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I'm a clumsy girl whose name, ironically, means "full of grace."

I looked up synonyms for clumsy so I could get a better idea of where I the concept could be found within the Word. The first example was found in the NLT's Isaiah 45:9 where the clay rhetorically asks the potter, "How clumsy can you be?" but most translation have it asking, "Does the work say, 'He has no hands?'" Of course, rhetorical questions are posed to encourage the noting of the obvious answer which, in this case is, "No, the potter has masterfully skilled hands." Also, noting an antonym for clumsy, we also know that The Maker is absolutely graceful. And this led me to one occurrence in God's Word of his treatment of the 'ungraceful' (accompanied by the Thesaurus' definition (a) Not graceful; not marked with ease and dignity; deficient in beauty and elegance; inelegant; awkward; as, ungraceful manners; ungraceful speech... (which, btw, was one of Moses' issues) is shown as occurring further into the Book of Corinthians 12:23 (Weymouth New Testament) in regard to the parts of the Body of Christ.
 
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Lynx said:
Oh good. I'm glad you found your home.

I told you this was a better forum for your kind of arguing. Lots of people here of like mind - acerbic.
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Contending for the faith as the scripture instructs is not being sour or bitter.

Those that are being corrected for following false doctrine are the ones who are acerbic
 
StanDupp said:
Contending for the faith as the scripture instructs is not being sour or bitter.

Those that are being corrected for following false doctrine are the ones who are acerbic
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Hehe...

Ahem... You cannot really claim that you have effectively shown somebody the error of his ways until he changes his ways, or at least agrees with you. I haven't seen any of either yet. All I have seen is a lot of you yelling at people.

Really effective, all this fighting you are doing. Really changing lives out here, yep.
 
Lynx said:
I haven't seen
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Blindness afflicts lots of folks

If you disagree with someone and keep getting all "triggered" as they say over it, maybe it's best for your own mental and emotional health that you refrain from reading their posts.

Children shouldn't be in the room when the adults are talking disagree.gif
 
StanDupp said:
Yep, looks like your inability to read my last few posts and find the scripture reference that I posted is causing you to be left out.

Sorry pal, that's how the old ball bounces sometimes.





Yeah Luther and Calvin both got played by a low level devil.

Those boys weren't the sharpest tools in the shed ya know.

All they had to do with go back to God's Word, but they followed the wisdom of man instead.

It's a cautionary tale for the rest of us to not depart from what God says in His Word.
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See here. You had only the first portion of that response- "The answer is in God's word-" when I replied. You went back and edited in that scripture after I replied. That doesn't matter though as your reference does not pertain to the question you were asked (God's view on clumsiness, evidenced by scripture). You are quickly gaining a reputation around here and in the other threads you participate in for being foolish and rude. I say this in love, brother- consider why you are on this platform saying the things that you are. And I am no longer willing to engage with you unless you show some sign of taking me seriously.
 
Mem said:
I'm a clumsy girl whose name, ironically, means "full of grace."

I looked up synonyms for clumsy so I could get a better idea of where I the concept could be found within the Word. The first example was found in the NLT's Isaiah 45:9 where the clay rhetorically asks the potter, "How clumsy can you be?" but most translation have it asking, "Does the work say, 'He has no hands?'" Of course, rhetorical questions are posed to encourage the noting of the obvious answer which, in this case is, "No, the potter has masterfully skilled hands." Also, noting an antonym for clumsy, we also know that The Maker is absolutely graceful. And this led me to one occurrence in God's Word of his treatment of the 'ungraceful' (accompanied by the Thesaurus' definition (a) Not graceful; not marked with ease and dignity; deficient in beauty and elegance; inelegant; awkward; as, ungraceful manners; ungraceful speech... (which, btw, was one of Moses' issues) is shown as occurring further into the Book of Corinthians 12:23 (Weymouth New Testament) in regard to the parts of the Body of Christ.
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Thank you for your intelligent and genuine response!
I agree then that to be less clumsy, and therefore as you explained, more graceful is to be closer in the image of God. I love the diving in you did with scripture to come to your conclusions, and with comparing Moses as an example.
So how do you think we can cultivate gracefulness? How should we respond to others' clumsiness and our own?
 
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SilverBigBack said:
"The answer is in God's word-" when I replied. You went back and edited in that scripture after I replied.
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And still, the answer is in God's Word.

The Lord sent the Holy Ghost to lead us in to all Truth which is what God's Word is.

There is no excuse before the Lord for anybody to live in defeat in this life.

The Lord does not force anybody to partake of His divine nature thru His promises (2 Peter 1:4)
 
The Lord does not force anybody to partake of His divine nature thru His promises in order to escape the corruption that is in the world through lust (carnal desires) - 2 Peter 1:4
 
SilverBigBack
With your grace if I may ,
I thought of
2 Tim 1:7
For God has not given us the spirit of fear, but of love, power, and a sound mind.
Emphasis in the context of Your issue ...
The sound mind the Lord has given you controls Your motor skills.
Also as a Son of the living God you have authority to speak to any
physical concern which hinders the Lords given gift!!
 
Caan said:
Also as a Son of the living God you have authority to speak to any
physical concern which hinders the Lords given gift!!
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You mean like Word of Faith?

A lot of people didn't know Jesus was a Word of Faith Teacher.

Speaking God's Word is all over His teachings
 
Caan said:
SilverBigBack
With your grace if I may ,
I thought of
2 Tim 1:7
For God has not given us the spirit of fear, but of love, power, and a sound mind.
Emphasis in the context of Your issue ...
The sound mind the Lord has given you controls Your motor skills.
Also as a Son of the living God you have authority to speak to any
physical concern which hinders the Lords given gift!!
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Thank you very much for this. Intelligent, encouraging truth from God's Word.
I agree that any issue that besets a Child of God should be brought forth in regular prayer.
There is one thing I'm contending with a bit however: By that interpretation of "sound mind," why do so many Christians come down with things like Parkinson's?
And may I ask deeper as to what you mean when you say "speak to any physical concern?" Are you referring to healing or just prayer? I am genuinely curious.
Thanks again for your heart and response!
 
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