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How do we distinguish false Christ & false Prophets according to Our Lord?
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How to distinguish the false Christ and the false Prophets?
It is by knowing the real Jesus recognize by the Disciples of Christ.
Jesus could reveal the false Christ and false Prophets for those people whose the recognition to Jesus is a revelation from the Father (Matthew 16:15-17)
Remember that Scribes and Pharisees basis to salvation is the words of God. Despite of that Jesus never revealed to them who is the false Christ and false Prophets.
The Devil has been given a power to do great wonders to disguise his own identity.
REVELATION 13:13
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
So with that power, there is no man who can distinguish the false Christ and false Prophets by reading the words of God and use own understanding.
It is only Jesus could reveal who are they.
It is by reading the words of God but to know Jesus with the revelation of the Father comes first.
It is by knowing the real Jesus recognize by the Disciples of Christ.
Jesus could reveal the false Christ and false Prophets for those people whose the recognition to Jesus is a revelation from the Father (Matthew 16:15-17)
Remember that Scribes and Pharisees basis to salvation is the words of God. Despite of that Jesus never revealed to them who is the false Christ and false Prophets.
The Devil has been given a power to do great wonders to disguise his own identity.
REVELATION 13:13
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
So with that power, there is no man who can distinguish the false Christ and false Prophets by reading the words of God and use own understanding.
It is only Jesus could reveal who are they.
It is by reading the words of God but to know Jesus with the revelation of the Father comes first.
@ Godsgood
Amen Brother,
It is only by knowing the real Jesus, that we can tell the counterfeit.
And knowing the REAL JESUS. comes by reading The Word, (Jesus) & coming to KNOW HIM, 2 Cor. 3:18 ( ... by beholding, we become ) to where He WILL instill HIS Holy Spirit in us, by Faith & Prayer.
1 Cor. 2:14 But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness to him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
v15 But he that is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
v16 For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
Discerning true from false prophets is possible, but it is a task that rests first and foremost on the Holy Spirit’s illumination, not merely on human intellect.
Amen !! ... and ~~> Blessed Sabbath, Folks
Amen Brother,
It is only by knowing the real Jesus, that we can tell the counterfeit.
And knowing the REAL JESUS. comes by reading The Word, (Jesus) & coming to KNOW HIM, 2 Cor. 3:18 ( ... by beholding, we become ) to where He WILL instill HIS Holy Spirit in us, by Faith & Prayer.
1 Cor. 2:14 But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness to him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
v15 But he that is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
v16 For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
Discerning true from false prophets is possible, but it is a task that rests first and foremost on the Holy Spirit’s illumination, not merely on human intellect.
- Yes, a person can discern false Christs and false prophets, but only when the Holy Spirit actively enlightens the heart and mind. We must pray earnestly for the Spirit’s guidance” before attempting to judge any teaching.
- Reading the Bible is necessary, but it must be done with humility, prayer, and a willingness to submit one’s conclusions to the Spirit’s leading. Statements made by anyone—as whether made by a “Christ” or a “prophet”—must be measured against the Bible.
- Personal understanding alone is insufficient; it must be tested against Scripture and, ideally, confirmed within the community of believers. Diligent, prayer‑filled study of the Bible so that the believer’s mind is shaped by its truths, into the likeness of Christ's Gal 2:20
Amen !! ... and ~~> Blessed Sabbath, Folks
Firstly, whatever translation software you're using is quite poor. The English is awkward, improperly punctuated, and grammatically incorrect. If you expect readers of English to understand your words, find a better tool. Don't presume the Holy Spirit will give the meaning; that's lazy. Of course, if you are not using software, then respect your readers enough to find and use a proofreading tool that will correct your sentences.
Secondly, the thing you keep missing is that God gave clear instructions in the Law for identifying false prophets. While you correctly note that recognizing Jesus as the Son of God and Messiah requires a revelation from God the Father, you incorrectly interpret that to mean people can only discern false teachers and false prophets by similar revelation, and that is simply not what Scripture teaches.
When you say the Bible says something, but it does not say that thing, you are a false teacher. When you claim God told you something would happen, and it does not happen, you are a false prophet. When you say something true but point people to a false god, you are a false prophet.
Firstly, whatever translation software you're using is quite poor. The English is awkward, improperly punctuated, and grammatically incorrect. If you expect readers of English to understand your words, find a better tool. Don't presume the Holy Spirit will give the meaning; that's lazy. Of course, if you are not using software, then respect your readers enough to find and use a proofreading tool that will correct your sentences.
You said you are after the scripture.
With regards to understanding it is God who is giving the understanding and you can read the scripture.
PROVERS 2:6
6 For the Lord giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.
Then Lord Jesus show a demonstration thru the Disciples on how God the Father is giving understanding. It is also written in the scripture.
Do you think that these people who come from different nations understand what the disciples saying is because by the Disciples the way they speak?
It is God who gave an understanding to these people.
ACTS 2:4-12
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
If I can speak fluently in English. I might be proud of myself and think that people will believe my sharing it is not because God gave them an understanding but because I'm very good in English as you see yourself.
If a good speaker is your basis to believe the person.
If you are an Israelite in the Old Testament you never believe Moses. And you prefer to stay as slave in Egypt.
EXODUS 4:10
10 And Moses said unto the Lord, O my Lord, I am not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant: but I am slow of speech, and of a slow tongue.
This truth is written in the scripture but you never believe because I'm not good in English then you may stay as slave of your hermeneutical method as you believe.
Even I can post many scriptures as you want you still not believe. Because you don't have the understanding. Because God the Father doesn't give you an understanding (Proverbs 2:6). Because you don't know who God the Father is. Without God given understanding (truth) there is no truth within you.
So you are one of the people who heard the Disciples but since there is no God given understanding to them. They taught Disciples are drunk
ACTS 2:13
13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
It means the other way around. Even I'm a very good in public speaking. Even I'm a grammatical expert. You still not believe because there is no God given understanding within you. You still say Acts 2:13 to me.
Secondly, the thing you keep missing is that God gave clear instructions in the Law for identifying false prophets. While you correctly note that recognizing Jesus as the Son of God and Messiah requires a revelation from God the Father, you incorrectly interpret that to mean people can only discern false teachers and false prophets by similar revelation, and that is simply not what Scripture teaches.
Secondly, you are just giving explanation base on hermeneutical methods of what you believe.
You are always saying it should be written in the scripture but you never show any written scripture with your comment but your own explanation base on hermeneutical method which is a man's method only.
When you say the Bible says something, but it does not say that thing, you are a false teacher. When you claim God told you something would happen, and it does not happen, you are a false prophet. When you say something true but point people to a false god, you are a false prophet.
I'm not a teacher. If I'm a teacher I will convince everybody here to believe me and I will always insist to do so.
I'm just sharing what is the truth.
But you are exposed by Lord Jesus that you are a teacher because you are forcing everybody to believe in your hermeneutical method. If they refuse then you will show your attitude by criticizing them.
The real followers of Christ never force people to believe them and have no attitude like yours. After they share what is the truth then they will leave.
This is what Lord Jesus taught them.
MATTHEW 10:14
14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
But in your case, you never taught by Lord Jesus and so it is hard for you to follow what the Lord Jesus command.
And yet you keep on teaching, now thru Jesus words in Matt 10:14 you've been exposed that you are a false teacher and false Prophet.
Are you incapable of searching things out for yourself?
Deuteronomy 13:1-3
If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul.
Are you incapable of searching things out for yourself?
As I understand with your question. It requires a group study to learn
Everybody is capable in searching by themselves,
It doesn't need to be a group in order to learn from God.
As long as there is humbleness. And God will teach by means of revelation and the person will learn.
MATTHEW 6:6
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
The Lord Jesus never said that this is for a group of person in order to learn.
Even you alone could learn if you are not a double minded.
JAMES 1:5-8
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul
This is why Lord Jesus gave this commandment to test the spirit if it is of God and not of God.
1 JOHN 4:2
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
People who don't know who God the Father they are the false Prophets and and false teachers and so they will do Deuteronomy 13:1-3.
But the chosen of God, never afraid of this false Prophets and false teachers because they never deceived by this people. Because the chosen of God are always guided by the Holy Spirit.
ACTS 2:1-3
2 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
How come you are afraid of Deuteronomy 13:1-3?
It is because I'm not agree with your tradition (hermeneutical method) on how to learn the word of God.
As the Lord Jesus saying.
MATTHEW 15:3
3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
I'm only making a comment with your post. It is for the other readers who might have the same opinion.
Then you don’t understand my question. I neither said nor implied anything about group study.
Try again.
Nothing in Scripture supports this assertion.
I’m not. It appears you are inventing things.
You don’t get to bear false witness just to make a comment. You definitely don’t get to lie blatantly to see if others share your false testimony. That is not the behaviour of a faithful follower of Christ.
So either you are a servant of the devil, or you are a Christian who is transgressing the law and who needs to repent.
So either you are a servant of the devil , or you are a Christian who is transgressing the law and who needs to repent
When the Scribes and Pharisees don't want to hear the truth sharing by Lord Jesus, that they don't know who God the Father is (John 8:54-55), this what they were saying to him.
JOHN 10:20
20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
He provides my every need and fulfill His promises 
The entire basis for every response you make to me is your WRONG assumption that I don’t know the Father.
You can’t prove that, your reasoning has been debunked, and your alleged scriptural evidence is nonexistent.
You have NO legitimate reason for thinking I have failed any test.
I'm not here to argue with you. At the same time I'm not here to convince you.
You may keep your belief as the Scribes & Pharisees in John 9:40.
As I mentioned I'm commenting to your reply just for the other readers who are seeking the truth. They may have the same question.
I think I shared what is the truth to your comment and no need to add more.
Without the revelation of Jesus. No one knows who is the false Christ and false Prophets.
Even his disciples should listen to Jesus first before they know who are the false Prophets.
MATTHEW 16:6-8 & 12
6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
7 And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have taken no bread.
8 Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them, O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves, because ye have brought no bread?
12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
“Jesus Only” (often called the Oneness or “Apostolic” movement) is a modern form of Modalism — a doctrine that denies the Trinity and teaches that God is one Person who reveals Himself in different modes or manifestations rather than existing as three distinct, co-eternal Persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).
Baptism in Jesus’ Name only.
They reject baptism “in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost” (Matthew 28:19 KJV) and insist that the true formula is baptism “in the name of Jesus Christ” (Acts 2:38 KJV).
Baptism is essential for salvation.
They teach that water baptism is part of the new birth (John 3:5) and is necessary for forgiveness of sins (Acts 2:38).
To them, an unbaptized believer has not yet been “born again.”
Faith, repentance, and baptism form a single, inseparable process of salvation.
So, salvation = Repentance --> Baptism in Jesus’ name--> Receiving the Holy Spirit (with tongues)
If you skip baptism, they say your sins are not yet remitted.
The “Jesus Only” (Oneness Pentecostal) doctrine is historically and theologically considered heresy by the mainstream Christian Church (Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox alike).
Grace and peace
Baptism in Jesus’ Name only.
They reject baptism “in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost” (Matthew 28:19 KJV) and insist that the true formula is baptism “in the name of Jesus Christ” (Acts 2:38 KJV).
Baptism is essential for salvation.
They teach that water baptism is part of the new birth (John 3:5) and is necessary for forgiveness of sins (Acts 2:38).
To them, an unbaptized believer has not yet been “born again.”
Faith, repentance, and baptism form a single, inseparable process of salvation.
So, salvation = Repentance --> Baptism in Jesus’ name--> Receiving the Holy Spirit (with tongues)
If you skip baptism, they say your sins are not yet remitted.
The “Jesus Only” (Oneness Pentecostal) doctrine is historically and theologically considered heresy by the mainstream Christian Church (Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox alike).
Grace and peace