Charlie Kirk - so what now ?

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ZNP said:
What hypocrisy to claim Charlie Kirk was a saint on one hand and on the other to be saying that unbelievers and skeptics should not be allowed to ask questions on a Christian forum.
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There is truth there, but many if not most, Christians are not equipped to deal with the truth let alone speak to those who are without Christ. And it's getting worse and we have not even come close to seeing how bad it will become. We are far far removed from the days of 'accept Jesus into your heart and your life will be wonderful'. Hah. That was always a lie anyway. You become a target of the devil if you are actually following Jesus.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
No one demanded worship of Kirk. Actually, Kirk didn't even start the idea, a man named Steven Crowder did. The whole "change my mind" was his idea. He also has two children, he is 38 yrs old. People would feel the exact same way if they saw him murdered in cold blood in front of a college crowd he was speaking to. You could literally change the men and it would be the exact same story except for the fact he is divorced. But he said his ex-wife asked him not to go back to doing colleges but he felt that responsibility more than anyone else because he started it in the first place. He indeed is back on the road with high security and a bullet proof vest.
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Well I got attacked by Doll for questioning the official narrative and I was slandered for it. So I'll stick with what I said as it matches my own experience.
 
pinebeach said:
As for ZNP, he is the king of the news forum
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Wow! I don't know what to say! Only this is a very momentous day for me, I'll remember it always, and any time I have an issue with Dude I will remind him of who he is talking to. :ROFL::LOL:
 
pinebeach said:
It is interesting to note that some of the worst opposition comes from those naming the name of Christ. I was not a follower of Kirk and really do not follow anyone but Jesus but I have had plenty of good and thorough biblical teaching. One of the main problems in our churches today, is that a proper foundation in scripture is not taught. People jump all over the place, twist scripture, take things out of context and do not think to examine themselves. Instead they look for someone to blame for just about anything they think could be improved.

And of course people are fickle. One day they love you and the next they desire to harm or even kill you. That includes Christians and I do know what I am talking about.

As for ZNP, he is the king of the news forum and the drip drip drip of his constant obsession with conspiracy theories does not belong in this forum but he posts them here because of the attention he will get. I know about Steven Crowder though and how his wife did not want him going back to colleges.

The left has been running this country for many years no matter who was in the White House. They have had the schools, healthcare and in a good number of cases, the church also. We are in a spiritual battle and it cannot be stressed enough that is actually the case.
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The devil just loves confusion. The Bible talks about deceiving spirits, if there ever was a time, this is it. I spend time on Youtube for various reasons, I craft a lot so always on there for ideas. But if you look at one thing another related to it comes up. So years ago I saw Crowder and started following his channel and Kirk of course was next. Both of them were trying to come against these deceiving spirits ( which a lot of churches won't speak to) and spreading the Gospel. Now I believe Crowder is Catholic, but it's the same thing that Kirk faced, the same topics and they used Biblical concepts to answer these lost college students. Who shot Kirk, their reasons for it I really don't care. Whoever did it should receive the death penalty IMO I really don't get this whole need to know why. They were evil, good enough, charge them and get it over with.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
The devil just loves confusion. The Bible talks about deceiving spirits, if there ever was a time, this is it. I spend time on Youtube for various reasons, I craft a lot so always on there for ideas. But if you look at one thing another related to it comes up. So years ago I saw Crowder and started following his channel and Kirk of course was next. Both of them were trying to come against these deceiving spirits ( which a lot of churches won't speak to) and spreading the Gospel. Now I believe Crowder is Catholic, but it's the same thing that Kirk faced, the same topics and they used Biblical concepts to answer these lost college students. Who shot Kirk, their reasons for it I really don't care. Whoever did it should receive the death penalty IMO I really don't get this whole need to know why. They were evil, good enough, charge them and get it over with.
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I listened to Steve Bannon's Warroom pandemic, not too much in recent years, his agenda is very political, but he is also the best source of the news as long as you are clear on his agenda. By listening to him I saw Charlie Kirk who appeared on his show a number of times.

I went to the memorial service and my wife was like you, why do you need to do that (I live more than a thousand miles away). However, I was fully convinced I needed to go. I have been totally focused on the rapture and where we are in history and in the church age. I don't want to miss any of it and I was convinced that his assassination was a key event in church history and in the leading up to the rapture. I do not want to be a spectator, I want to be a participant. Also I thought it was crucial to be able to fairly report on this in my blog about the rapture. I am glad I did because during the Memorial service the correlation between Charlie kirk's ministry and Samson were crystal clear. I had not seen that until I went to that Memorial.
 
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ZNP said:
Well I got attacked by Doll for questioning the official narrative and I was slandered for it. So I'll stick with what I said as it matches my own experience.
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I don't know what the official narrative is right now. They say they are still following leads but so far there is only one in custody. But when we go down the rabbit whole with Candice and she shot her mouth off about Israels PM and he published the letter Kirk sent him, she looks like a fool. I don't honor or worship Kirk, but I saw the work he did, it was a form of ministry. A young man's life was cut down before he hit his prime leaving a young widow and children that probably won't be able to remember him. Find the killer, make him pay, that's the only part I care about. So far they are sticking with this guy. If it changes for good reason, fine.
 
ZNP said:
I listened to Steve Bannon's Warroom pandemic, not too much in recent years, his agenda is very political, but he is also the best source of the news as long as you are clear on his agenda. By listening to him I saw Charlie Kirk who appeared on his show a number of times.

I went to the memorial service and my wife was like you, why do you need to do that (I live more than a thousand miles away). However, I was fully convinced I needed to go. I have been totally focused on the rapture and where we are in history and in the church age. I don't want to miss any of it and I was convinced that his assassination was a key event in church history and in the leading up to the rapture. I do not want to be a spectator, I want to be a participant. Also I thought it was crucial to be able to fairly report on this in my blog about the rapture. I am glad I did because during the Memorial service the correlation between Charlie kirk's ministry and Samson were crystal clear. I had not seen that until I went to that Memorial.
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Did you write about that in the forum? I didn't see it if you did.
 
Dude653 said:
I used to see memes which were basically jokes about him being bad at debating
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His haters said lots of things that were not true because he was good at debating. And unlike his opponents, he was very well informed.

I saw a vid where he went into a football stadium and threw a ball over fifty yards cuz they said he couldn't throw. Buncha liars.

And how many of them said things like men can have babies??? My goodness. They needed his wake-up call.
 
ZNP said:
Wow! I don't know what to say! Only this is a very momentous day for me, I'll remember it always, and any time I have an issue with Dude I will remind him of who he is talking to. :ROFL::LOL:
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Dude has sway around here too.
 
ThereRoseaLamb said:
The devil just loves confusion. The Bible talks about deceiving spirits, if there ever was a time, this is it. I spend time on Youtube for various reasons, I craft a lot so always on there for ideas. But if you look at one thing another related to it comes up. So years ago I saw Crowder and started following his channel and Kirk of course was next. Both of them were trying to come against these deceiving spirits ( which a lot of churches won't speak to) and spreading the Gospel. Now I believe Crowder is Catholic, but it's the same thing that Kirk faced, the same topics and they used Biblical concepts to answer these lost college students. Who shot Kirk, their reasons for it I really don't care. Whoever did it should receive the death penalty IMO I really don't get this whole need to know why. They were evil, good enough, charge them and get it over with.
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You know one of the most sensible and biblical descriptions of dealing with evil spirits (that I came across some time back)had been put out by a Catholic priest. Came across it by accident while doing a search for something else. Not all Catholics are asleep at the wheel while often enough 'Protestants' just condemn everyone with the broadest brush they can find.

The best is when churches tell their congregants that the devil cannot touch them. Been there, heard that. The end of that is that people can believe that God does not care for them or that they are some kind of exception to God loving believers or maybe they are not even really saved. I think some who think they are all that, are going to have to answer for their disregard of scripture and the passive way they do not want to deal with spiritual reality.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Go listen and see if you believe that.
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there was a clip when he was asked about how many School shooters have been transgender.
His reply was "too many"
That was not an answer to the question or was it and honest attempt to engage the question.

Then he was asked a question about how many mass shootings happen in America in his reply was...... does that include gang violence?
Another dodge and disingenuous answer.

so I guess he was good at dodging questions
 
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