Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Solitude said:
You are the one who promoted a Catholic Saint. Are you really that ignorant?
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Are you a Catholic? That would explain a lot.

I posted Scripture. Do you not recognize it at all?

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Romans 8 verse 29-30; Ephesians 1 verse 5 ~ Those God foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers. And those He predestined, He also called; those He called, He also justified; those He justified, He also glorified. He predestined us for adoption as His sons through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of His will.
 
Jn 6:28-29 They said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?”

Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”

Notice He doesn’t say, “You can’t do nothing.” Instead He tells them to believe in Him.


Context kills Calvinism.
 
HeIsHere said:
Jn 6:28-29 They said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?”

Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”

Notice He doesn’t say, “You can’t do nothing.” Instead He tells them to believe in Him.

Context kills Calvinism.
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Scripture tells us who can and cannot believe. But you contradict Scripture,
for instance, telling us everyone hears and the gospel is not hid.

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John 8 verses 43, 47, Acts 13 verse 48, Romans 8 verse 8, John 8 verse 43 “Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you are unable to accept My message.” “Whoever belongs to God hears the words of God. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” When the Gentiles heard this, they rejoiced and glorified the word of the Lord, and all who were appointed for eternal life believed. Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God.
 
HeIsHere said:
Jn 6:28-29 They said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?”

Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”

Notice He doesn’t say, “You can’t do nothing.” Instead He tells them to believe in Him.


Context kills Calvinism.
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NO, Jesus told them that if they believe it is because it is by work of God not of themselves. You twisted the interpretation of the verse
 
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John 3 verse 6, Romans 8 verse 7, Galatians 5 verse 17, 2 Timothy 3 verse 13, Romans 3 verse 18 ~ Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. The mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. The flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are opposed to each other. Evil men and imposters go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. There is no fear of God before their eyes.
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
You imagine it does, but in reality it comes straight out of Insitutes of Christian Religion.
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I imagine no such thing. I post the proof texts often and they are rejected, contradicted, and denied, even by you.

Free willers have even been known to rewrite the words of Jesus to make them fit their presups.

They refuse to accept what Scripture says in a multitude of places.
 
HeIsHere said:
Context kills Calvinism.
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Scripture says, the world cannot receive the spirit of truth. Your view is, it can. Scripture says the man of flesh (unregenerated) cannot submit to or obey God. Your view is, he can. Scripture says the natural man cannot receive the spiritual things of God. Your view is, he can. Scripture says the natural man cannot understand the spiritual things of God. Your view is, he can. Scripture says a bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit. Your view is, it can. Scripture says the natural man is opposed to the spiritual things of God. Your view is, he is not. Scripture says the gospel is hid. Your view is, the gospel is not hid. Jesus said not everyone hears. Your view is, everyone hears. Scripture says flesh serves the law of sin and brings forth fruit unto death. Your view is, the flesh can choose to make a decision a plethora of Scriptures say it cannot, to please God and bring forth fruit unto life. Scripture says the devil has taken people captive to do his will. Your view is, man has a will that is free. Scripture says no man can come to God unless God draws them. Your view is, divine intervention is not necessary. Your view is, man has everything he needs to come to believe. Scripture makes plain certain things are only known through the Spirit and revelation which you continually denigrate. Scripture shows over and over again from Genesis all the way through to Revelation that God reveals Himself differently from one person to the next. Your view is, God is unfair if He were to reveal Himself in any way differently from one person to the next. Your view is those you disagree with should preach in cemeteries, then you lie about conflating spiritual death with physical death. Your view is to not only blaspheme God yourself, but agree with those who blaspheme God in other ways. Along with other free willers, you come across as despising God's sovereignty, and call Him doing things for His own purposes doing them for no good reason. No matter how you look at it, your theological stance on this issue directly contradicts and outright denies what the Bible explicitly articulates in a number of places, and you are not likely to change it any time soon because to bring your view into line with what Scripture actually teaches would bring your whole house of cards down, and demolish your vain self-exalting stance. You cannot have that, since you are far too attached to your ear-tickling doctrine. One could even say you were in love with it. You certainly love it more than the Truth of Scripture.
 
HeIsHere said:
Jn 6:28-29 They said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?”

Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”

Notice He doesn’t say, “You can’t do nothing.” Instead He tells them to believe in Him.


Context kills Calvinism.
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Your problem is that while you can read words you are unable to logically process them as a whole.
 
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rogerg said:
Your problem is that while you can read words you are unable to logically process them as a whole.
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"You can't do nothing" would be very poor grammar, also. Well, maybe heis really speaks like that. Jesus did not.
 
Magenta said:
I imagine no such thing. I post the proof texts often and they are rejected, contradicted, and denied, even by you.

Free willers have even been known to rewrite the words of Jesus to make them fit their presups.

They refuse to accept what Scripture says in a multitude of places.
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Oh really? What passage of Scripture would you like to study systematically?
 
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GWH said:
You should read it some time, so you can better understand the roots of your religion.
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The Bible alone is the root of my religion. Unfortunately, you don't comprehend enough of it to realize/understand its message.
 
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What Say You? ~ When Scripture says there are none good, does it mean some are good? When Scripture says we all fall short, does it mean there are some who meet God's standards? When Scripture says, "The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned..." Does it mean the natural man can understand the spiritual things of God? Does it mean he really can understand the gospel message even though it is heard as foolishness to him as Scriptures say? Is the natural man gifted with wisdom even though he has no fear of God, which is the beginning of wisdom? Will the lover of darkness come into the light even though Scripture says he will not, because he suppresses the truth of God in unrighteousness and is actually defined as darkness itself, hates the light, and is a slave to sin, blinded to the truth and captive to the will of the devil, which many define as being free? Is the heart of the natural man, the stony ground which needs to be replaced, fit for receiving and growing the Seed of God's Word into faith? Will that incurably wicked heart choose of its own accord to believe? Will that bad tree bring forth the good fruit of faith even though Jesus said it was not possible?
 
GWH said:
Oh really? What passage of Scripture would you like to study systematically?
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"Systematically" is anathema to the Bible tweet Barbies and Bible tweet Kens around here. To be avoided like the plague.
 
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