Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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It is so very interesting how differently we walked up to that point, even with the many similarities, such
as being delivered from alcoholism and addiction. I cried out to the God I did not believe in for help when
I was 39, and was almost immediately relieved of the desire to use mind and mood altering substances
after 24 years of such. I was a seeker for many years, but very much averse to the Bible and that God, even
after He revealed His love and forgiveness to me when I was 33, when I was in such a broken state after the
dissolution of my marriage. I did treasure that which was imparted to me, even as I continued to reject the
Giver. My church family always laugh good naturally at how I walked away from that experience thinking
along the lines of how wonderful it was to know I was loved and forgiven... too bad it had to happen in a
church. I had gone to a neighbourhood church around Passover right after the failure of my marriage to see
a movie on the life of Christ based on the Gospel of Luke. And yes, imparted to me along with the experience
of His unconditional love and forgiveness through the cross of Christ, was the knowledge that
I was a sinner, and that I was to the uttermost unworthy of that which He was granting to me.

https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...itional-election.200944/page-224#post-5008112
 
I went looking for older posts where I know I spoke of the same things along the same lines using the same terms of
knowing how unworthy I am, but unless I search out posts made to specific people, I cannot find anything pre-dating
2018 doing a word search, whereas I know I spoke of this very thing numerous times right after joining in 2015.

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The free will camp assumes, with no supporting text and contrary to many verses that evidence the opposite, that the man of flesh is free to choose, and will believe, that which he can neither receive nor comprehend, and to which he is inherently opposed with his uncircumcised heart of stone. There is simply no getting around the fact that this is the core of their belief, and it flies in the face of what Scripture actually teaches about the natural man who is a slave to sin and lover of darkness refusing to come into the light, blinded to truth and under the power and influence of Satan: he serves the law of sin which brings forth fruit unto death, not life. Without the indwelling Holy Spirit of God, his incurably wicked heart cannot be changed. He hates God, rejects the light, and hears the gospel message as foolishness. Praise the Lord if He has set you free!
 
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Doll said:
You admit you're lost.
You should stop being a joiner then and refrain from the "calvie" no sense when you know nothing about Calvinism or,as you impart,the Gospel.
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Nope. Evidently the people who don't know about Calvinism.....are the Calvinists.
 
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Despite what the un-Biblical free will doctrine promoters put forth, the natural man does not have everything he needs in order to grow the good fruit of faith from the stony ground of his incurably wicked heart which is opposed to the things of God, and he cannot change himself, being a lover of darkness who suppresses the truth in unrighteousness as a slave to sin, being inherently hostile in his mind toward God, and blinded to the truth while under the power of the evil one. Those who promote the free will of the natural man reject a plethora of Biblical truths. Praise God if Jesus has set you free!
 
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Cameron143 said:
I've never come across so many disingenuous people who having had positions explained to them continue to misrepresent them.
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Good grief man, you neither hold to a position, nor can you explain it.

Sorry.
 
Doll said:
You admit you're lost.
You should stop being a joiner then and refrain from the "calvie" no sense when you know nothing about Calvinism or,as you impart,the Gospel.
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And another missed opportunity to share the Gospel.
The reformed/calvie/tulip theory does know the Gospel correct?
 
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Romans 10 verses 9-10 ~ If you confess with you mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. With your heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved.
 
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cv5 said:
That's not a "claim" buddy.
That is a forensic analysis and conclusion.
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Even more gobbledygook.

Seems you would rather countenance lying rather than call it out. Something something about calling evil good...
 
Cameron143 said:
Even more gobbledygook.

Seems you would rather countenance lying rather than call it out. Something something about calling evil good...
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Revelation 22 verses 11-13 ~ Let the unrighteous continue to be unrighteous, and the vile continue to be vile; let the righteous continue to practice righteousness, and the holy continue to be holy.” “Behold, I am coming soon, and My reward is with Me, to give to each one according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”
 
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Isaiah 5 v 20-21; Proverbs 26 v 12b Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who turn darkness to light and light to darkness, who replace bitter with sweet and sweet with bitter. Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight. There is more hope for a fool than for him.
 
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Cameron143 said:
I've never come across so many disingenuous people who having had positions explained to them continue to misrepresent them.
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I think you might consider there are those who thrive on generating conflict.
Imagine if producing pages made money.

Ack! Cash cow.:p:LOL:
 
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Proverbs 14 v 6, Proverbs 29 v 1 ~ A mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to the discerning. A man who remains stiff-necked after much reproof will suddenly be shattered beyond recovery.
 
Magenta said:
That is why you get called out so often. Scripture says, the world cannot receive the spirit of truth. Your view is, it can.
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Stop right there.
You have a convinced mind, because you have sewn together your little straw men that you play house with.

The Gospel is not something we need to hear once we are saved.
It was designed by God to be presented in such a way that one does not have to be spiritual to understand it.

Now?
After what we are to learn after salvation?
The natural man will not possess what is needed to learn Bible doctrine.
That category of teaching would be foolishness to him.
 
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