If I had know you were an unbeliever, I would have shared the gospel with you. I thought everyone here was a professing Christian. Apparently not, though, heh?
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If I had know you were an unbeliever, I would have shared the gospel with you. I thought everyone here was a professing Christian. Apparently not, though, heh?
It's very interesting to watch and read.
We will get a string of 50-60 posts from the reformed/calvie/tulip theory.....That man can do nothing and know nothing about the Gospel of HIS salvation.
The man is just walking down the street, picking up ladies of the night, drinking his beer and smoking some whacky weed and BAM God Sovereignly saves his proud, arrogant and know nothing butt.
Only then can the Gospel be known to that man.
And then they preach..........God gives Grace only to the humble.
INSANITY.
And yet, you still didn't share the Gospel with me.
You guys have no heart for the lost. You are too wrapped up in your flesh and theory.
Why don't you ask a fellow-FWer who can share his perverted version of the gospel with you? I bet CV5 has a super-duper Adamic version he'd love to share with you.
Still............... No Gospel from you.Why don't you ask a fellow-FWer who can share his perverted version of the gospel with you? I bet CV5 has a super-duper Adamic version he'd love to share with you.
The Lord Jesus Christ.......The NAME is salvation.
IMO, The Lord Jesus Christ is sorely missed in their reformed/calvie/tulip theory.Whenever they need to remember who the guy was/is
the singular Seed of the woman refers to the Lord Jesus Christ.
the singular seed of the serpent refers to the devil.
The battle is a spiritual battle about which we only know what is revealed in Scripture. We don't see the actual battle ... we only see the consequence of the spiritual wickedness in high places. God has provided for us all that is needed (the whole armor of God) in order to stand and withstand strong in faith. However, we are to put on the armor of God in order to stand, withstand, strong in faith, then pray (Eph 6:17). The actual battle takes place in a realm we know so little about. Prayer is the most underutilized tool in the arsenal of the believer. Some folks get it ... but for the most part, prayer is used as a last resort in the life of the believer. sad fact.
The Lord Jesus Christ is the sole Savior of mankind. you cannot be the sacrifice for sin as you were sinful prior to being born again.Rufus said:
Believers stand before God as blameless ... only because of the believer's faith in the Lord Jesus Christ ... not because we do not stumble at times. And when we stumble, we get up, we confess our sin to God, and He is faithful and just to forgive us our sin.
In Matt 16 when Jesus asked His disciples "whom say ye that I am?" (vs 15) and Peter answered "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God" (vs 16), Jesus said "thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church" (vs 18) ... "will build" = future tense which indicates His church was not yet in existence.Rufus said:
so? ... greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world.Rufus said:
Acts 2:46-47 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
How can these believers be "added" to the body of Christ since, according to you, "God's elect (Christ's Body) were in Him all eternity"?
Born again ones are added to the church, the body of the Lord Jesus Christ, at the time they are born again ... not before ... and definitely not in eternity past.
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One I know for certain always uses His conversations strictly to the Disciples and no one else as if he was there himself.
and I've told you that your belief system has "a type of the devil!" in the genealogy of the Lord Jesus Christ ... which I'm sure satan just loves that! you are in error and I pray you will humbly submit to the truth of Scripture concerning Gen 3 ... the very beginning days of mankind ... your error skews your understanding of Scripture concerning mankind.
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Cain was the offspring of Adam and Eve ... not the serpent.
Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
and God told Cain in Gen 4:7 that if Cain would do well, he would be accepted ... so I don't buy into the notion that the only response natural man can have to Scripture is as stated by some who have posted in this thread. We know from the record that Cain suppressed the truth in unrighteousness and rejected what God said, but that does not mean all natural men will and/or do the same.
When the truth of God's Word is spoken to a natural man, he or she either believes and receives the blessing promised ... or he or she suppresses the truth in unrighteousness and receives the consequence. Gen 3:22 states clearly that mankind can know both good and evil. Some believe only half of that verse and claim that natural man can only know evil.
What I do agree with is that mankind would know nothing of God if not for God reaching out to mankind. And God reveals Himself through creation ... through the Scriptures which He had His faithful believers write ... through faithful believers preaching the truth of God's Word.
yeah ... I'm not sure when you joined the thread ... Rufus and I discussed Adam and Eve back in July.Doll said:
well, it's certainly grievous error as the understanding of Scripture is skewed from Gen 3 ... the very beginning ... yikes.Doll said:
hope/pray all chores are done ... and you've got energy left to enjoy your evening.
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nothing wrong with being unique ... however, it's best to behave like a Holy Spirit led unique one.
do you think you're humble because the Lord Jesus Christ was humble?Rufus said:
We are to follow His example ... here's something Paul wrote about how we are to behave toward others:
Galatians 6:10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
Philippians 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
I did not lie ... how many times have you told all who have posted on this thread that you are humble?Rufus said:
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"I did not lie ... how many times have you told all who have posted on this thread that you are humble?"
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Agree, for me, as well, is the impact of this faulty soteriology on evangelism.
Agree, there is NO Good News in the Tulip/Calvie/Reformed theory at all!!
The big "aha" moment for me on this thread was how they would share the Good News to a non-believer, the message was completely impoverished of its full weight.
As you have stated many times it has to be that way, because God may not have that person on the salvation "list."
As well, they create walls of text, removed from the surrounding context, arguing that the central the message of the Bible for all humanity is that god has created a special people before time, selected for spiritual salvation and He hates all the others.
If that was God's message to humanity I am pretty sure He could have done it in 50 words or less and could pin the message to the sky so there would be no doubt.
This soteriology needs to be rooted out, it is tragic.
You mean salvation isn't found in Adam -- scripture's super-duper, altruistic, self-sacrificing hero. I wonder why that is...
The hard-core super-determinists manifest a very disturbing spectrum of......behaviors and attitudes. It runs the gamut from extreme to subtle, but very common.
[Luk 18:11 KJV]
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men [are], extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
The subtle is most disturbing.
I also find the attempts to repackage Calvinism, trim off the rough edges, make it more palatable, also something people need to be very aware of... tis true Calvinism appeals to the flesh >>>> "I was uniquely regenerated so that I could believe, I am specially chosen to receive this gift."