Huh? This is out of the blue
This is the very act that Christ blood atonement is based under. A blood atonement for others. This is why there was no other way.
Huh? This is out of the blue
1 Corinthians 2 tells us we are Saved by God's grace. Not of ourselves, our work,so we are then incapable of boasting we Saved ourselves by working for our redemption.
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
Your contention regarding Baptism is requsite or we are not Saved makes the onus yours.
Show the Scripture that teaches us, we are not in God's grace of irrevocable Salvation unless we are Baptized.
Did you see my clarification?Don't get caught in this trap brightfame52 I entertained this a bit but how could it justify a just God. Imo which goes quite fluently with scripture is to say God predestined salvation before the foundations were formed. As in Christ was predestined.
God was not at all caught off guard with the fall of man.knowing the end from the beginning had already establish salvation and atonement.
The work of God is to believe the son first and foremost. It is God who desires all come to repentance. For he has no joy in the destruction of the wicked.
There are some because they refuse to except the truth that God turns over to reprobate no matter how God has made himself known.
You will see this in Revelation where even God has angels proclaim the Gospel but still they refuse.
Predestination of people does not fit God's nature .
Paul even said that God can save from the uttermost but a person that refuses to believe no matter what they have seen or heard is simply lost beyond reason.
What are you talking about?This is the very act that Christ blood atonement is based under. A blood atonement for others. This is why there was no other way.
Was Cornelius saved B4 he was baptized in water?Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Was Cornelius saved B4 he was baptized in water?
Yes. Because I believe what Jesus taught.Do you really believe if you die without baptism you will be saved?
See. Those who are damned are those who believeth not.Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Christ took our sins upon Himself! Water Baptism is a sign and a seal that we believe this to be true.If you don't believe ALL of his word show me any other way to remove our sins.
The answer of a good Conscience toward God.See. Those who are damned are those who believeth not.
It doesn't say,those who are not baptized and believeth not are damned.
1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
and is baptized shall be saved;The answer of a good Conscience toward God.
That's not referring to Salvation.
https://www.bibleref.com/1-Peter/3/1-Peter-3-21.html
"1 Peter 3:21 discusses baptism, stating that it symbolizes a person's appeal to God for a good conscience, not merely a physical cleansing. It emphasizes that true salvation comes through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, indicating that baptism is an important expression of faith rather than the means of salvation itself."
So,you ignored the right understanding I shared. Which tells you there are layers in our human self that is washed clean,when we are Saved.and is baptized shall be saved;![]()
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.[/QUOTE]So,you ignored the right understanding I shared. Which tells you there are layers in our human self that is washed clean,when we are Saved.
OK.
Works do not Save.
The answer of a good Conscience toward God.See. Those who are damned are those who believeth not.
It doesn't say,those who are not baptized and believeth not are damned.
1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
So,this woman wasn't Saved?Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Christ took our sins upon Himself! Water Baptism is a sign and a seal that we believe this to be true.
You don't like what HIS word says?
That is sad.
It's IMPOSSIBLE to be saved without dying with Christ in baptism.
JESUS says unless a man is born of water and of spirit HE CAN NOT ENTER.
You tell me how can a person be saved when NEVER getting rid of their sins?
Why would ask such a silly question?
Was Cornelius saved B4 he was baptized in water? Did the Holy Spirit fall upon him B4 he was water baptized? That was a sign of ownership