Charlie Kirk - so what now ?
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What did Jesus (God) do to his enemies in the Old Testament?
Did he love them?
Also ask what Jesus will do to His enemies when He comes back!*
*Hint: It won't end well for for them.
You want people to love you when you say dumb stuff?
Nope, that's not how that works.
For example, i can spare a piece of bread for you but if you say that the bread does not exist, you're either stupid or you got some mental problems which are beyond my understanding.
This needs clarification
"That's not how that works."
In Eli's world only.
Not God's.
You may now continue with your regularly scheduled scrolling.
My question is what is an autopsy going to prove. We all saw what happened
I don't believe any of the conspiracy theories. In fact, they anger me. I believe they have the person that committed the murder. People saw him on the roof before hand. I won't get into the trans issue and the "lover", I don't care, and I don't care about his motive. I sincerely hope he gets the death penalty that he deserves.
Did you notice the differences between the old covenant and the New Covenant was are under now???
YES, God does love all people under the New Covenant because Jesus went to the Cross for ALL people meaning ALL people have opportunity for salvation... and sadly many will reject the Lord because of so many claiming to be "christians" are hypocrites who say one thing and do another
YES when Jesus returns He will execute wrath upon those that do not obey the gospel (2 Thessalonians 1:8) which includes those that were Christians but backslid and turned away from walking with the Lord going back to living after the pleasures of this life (being carnal minded walking after the flesh).
NO we are not the Lord... Jesus instructs us to love our enemies to do good to them that curse us and these are the marching orders for real Christians. Those that have the Spirit of the Lord do not wish evil upon those attacking them.
None to worry, it's highly unlikely this guy will ever repent and as such he's heading to eternity being tormented in hell.
This does not mean the Lord has not provided salvation for him or for Adolf Hitler for that matter.... but they have to repent from their sins with sincerity and turn away from living for the devil and turn to the Lord and live for him.
This is something Adolf failed to do and is something this assassin is not likely to do either.
The scriptures must harmonize. The God of the Old Testament is the Jesus of the New.
If you study how the written word came to be as the New Testament that may help you to realize we are not reading Jesus when we are told to love our enemies, allow thieves to rob us and give them even more than what they want to take from us. (Thou shalt not steal). Notice there's no commandment in the OT to love your enemies?
"Those that have the Spirit of the Lord do not wish evil upon those attacking them."
The Holy Spirit,God/Jesus, sends people to Hell for eternity for doing evil.
God drowned all life on Earth except for those he predestined for Salvation in the Ark.
He burned all inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah alive except for those he predestined for Salvation from the flames.
God ordered the Hebrews into war against others.
Commanded the slaughter of all living things no matter what they were. Including babies. And ordered babies be cut from their mother's womb.
Herod is reviled for his order to slaughter babies when he sought to kill the prophecied Messiah.
And yet God killed the first born of every Egyptian house in his campaign to force Pharaoh to let his people go.
And this occurred after God insured Pharaoh could not obey that command ever.
Because,as God told Moses, God hardened Pharaohs heart so he could not let God's people go.
Yes, Pharaohs heart was hard before that. Had he been left alone, Pharaoh could have relented after witnessing any number of plagues that beset himself and his people. But God insured the hardening would not soften.
Because all the plagues God sent were direct challenges to the elemental domains of the pantheon of gods and goddesses of the Egyptian faith.
Jesus said the Pharisees were of their father the Devil.
All of that , God's and Jesus examples and therefore teachings by example, and more is documented in both Old and New Testaments.
When we are made first in the image and likeness of God,and are Christ like, being indwelt by his Holy Spirit and Sealed in his Redemption plan, thinking we have to live and refrain from harsh criticism,as example, of the man who raped and dismembers an eight year old,is not able to be sustained by the example God gave of his behaviors toward Sinners and others he thought worthy of his wrath.
The scriptures must harmonize in both Old and New.
However, when Roman government influence was behind those who in councils over many decades compiled the New Testament, loving ones enemies,doing good to those who hate or harm you, giving even more to those who would rob you,and honoring the Emperor,would then make sense.
If the Roman army seeks to make conquest of a town to which missionaries of the good news first converted the towns folk, it would be easier to achieve success if those Christians thought their eternity depended on loving those enemies,and giving them their town and freedom,and then obeying the Emperor behind it all.
In the conquests of Pagan Europe and even the Americas, priests accompanied the armies. Those not killed in the war were converted,or killed.
Jesus said,you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.
Many Christians believe in the Bible. Some even make an idol of it.
We're to believe in God.God is The Word.
The Bible is said ,by man, to be the inspired words of God. Yet,for centuries it has been changed and rewritten. And now there are great numbers of versions.
When God,The Word,does not change. And is the same,forever.
Truth is, The Word of God is God.
"In the beginning was the word..."
And Jesus is,was,the Word made flesh who dwelt among us.
The New Testament tells of the culmination of the Messiah prophecy in the Old.
The Bible contains God's Spirit and communication to us. We have to discern where those truths are in the text.
However,man with their motives interjected their part too.
When God will send that aforementioned rapist murderer of a child to Hell for eternity, God isn't going to tell the Elect of God who are indwelt by his spirit to love that rapist murderer of an innocent.
God sends him to Hell. But,we are to love him?
This is also a good time to address the ideology that insists,contrary to what God actually says, that we can freely choose to be Saved.
If that aforementioned child murderer and rapist chooses to believe in Jesus/Omniscient Sovereign God while serving on death row,he goes to Heaven? To live for eternity with that innocent child he destroyed on Earth?
And we're to think the Lambs Book of Eternal Life containing the names of God's Elect,written before the foundation of the world,would contain that rapist murderers name? Because God predestined him for his grace?
After what God/Jesus tells us he hates in Proverbs 6:16-19?
I think what causes conflict and division in the church,the whole of the Faithful, is in our trying to reconcile what are actually God's words and leading within ourselves by his Holy Spirit,and those interpolations of men who wrote their political agenda into the Bible so to let it be marveled at as not their work,but God's instruction.
Discernment,is the key.
There is no thing Sovereign God cannot know. Or,see coming. Especially when man has an ego.
The Romans wanted to conquer the world for all time.
What better way to accomplish this than to establish a church, send out armies and priests to conquer and convert,and then compile a text that assures all who hear it read to them,as was the case in that early Roman church(s), this is all God's will?
Which is why the Pagan Romans kept many of their practices,though with a new Christian veneer, when they reformed their Paganism into that global political vehicle of war,conquest and conversion.
The Romans Catholic (universal) Church.
Complete with idols,a goddess,(the mother of God and co-redemptrix), a Caesar (Pope) and a Senate (college of cardinals) and gold! Money!
Today,there's a "donation" box on the prayer altar where people light candles. And pray for those in Purgatory, which Jesus never spoke of, or for other reasons,so to "voluntarily" pay for the candles.
Need a special pass for healing,etc...? It's customary to make a donation for that.
April 2025:
https://www.americamagazine.org/fai...rms-donations-special-mass-intentions-250393/
And a historic Church agenda for success. Convert or die.
1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Protestant Reformation caused the slaughter of many too. Crusades. Mass murders in God's name.
Denominationalism today divides the church,the whole body of the faithful Elect of God.
Ours is to be an intimate personal relationship with God who's within us. We are a temple of the Holy.
Find God's leading in scripture. Discern what is not in harmony with his teaching,message,in history.i.e the Old Testament. And always listen,pray/pay attention to his voice from within you.
Upon this rock,that was Jesus not Peter,I shall build my church, i.e the whole of God's Elect called to Jesus. And the gates of Hell ,(what comes out of them from Hell)shall not prevail against it.(Us)
Follow The Word. And you shall find peace.
It proves the patsy arrested by the feds was innocent, for starters (at least innocent of using the rifle they allege he used). The bullet shard that severed Charlie's spinal column (but not the other side of his neck) would have blown through his neck and probably some of those standing behind him if it was from the murder weapon alleged by the feds (and which they can't even prove any alleged shooter fired from the roof, by the way). Facts matter.
It likely means the real murder weapon was a much different class of weapon, and that the real shooter was likely in front of Charlie, and much closer. And the fact that there was an alleged shooter on the roof and various decoys - this means the assassination was a conspiracy by a number of bad actors to commit the sophisticated hit, not dreamed up by some confused transgender a few days before, but rather carried out by a military or intelligence agency (who have attempted intended to pin it on a confused lone-nut transgender or similar patsy).
Candace Owens has an excellent podcast which has methodically refuted a lot of the lies the media and government officials have tried to spread.
If you were there you saw the bullet strike Charlie in the side of the neck.
He was dead,instantly. He never knew what hit him.
Heaven you shot a rifle with .30-06 rounds?
Yes,that bullet should have blown through his neck and into those few people closest to his right side of the stage.
But it didn't.
Conspiracy theorists will project years after that horrible day and put forth their myths.
After all,there are those who think Tupac is still alive after having faked his death. When the butterfly filet of his thorax tissue iwas on the Net.
People would rather believe in conspiracies rather than an act of God.
And Owens is putting forth her own conspiracy theories. She's not refuting with facts and hard evidence. She's projecting because she can't deal with the facts.
And the idea Charlie was shot by someone standing in front of him is ludicrous. Unless a bullet can travel straight,hang a hard right and then a hard left and hit the mark.
Charlie's dead. God saved others from the assassins bullet meant for him.
Disrespecting his widow and children with ridiculous projections insisting what those who were there saw,is unkind.
Facts do matter and no one should be intimidated into not asking questions and doing a thorough investigation. The only ones threatened by these questions are those who are trying to hold down the truth in unrighteousness.
Only about 30% of death row sentences are ever carried out. Most of them die of old age on death row
No, it is anything but pointless, it has led to a tremendous number of advances in forensics which in turn has greatly reduced the number of innocent people in prison who are wrongly convicted.
It's odd. I proofread my post and committed it to post. Now I look back much later and it's filled with typos. Again.
This is how it looked when posted.
If you were there you saw the bullet strike Charlie in the side of the neck.
He was dead,instantly. He never knew what hit him.
Haave you shot a rifle with .30-06 rounds?
Yes,that bullet should have blown through his neck and into those few people closest to his right side of the stage.
But it didn't.
Conspiracy theorists will project years after that horrible day and put forth their myths.
After all,there are those who think Tupac is still alive after having faked his death. When the butterfly filet of his thorax tissue was on the Net.
People would rather believe in conspiracies rather than an act of God.
And Owens is putting forth her own conspiracy theories. She's not refuting with facts and hard evidence. She's projecting because she can't deal with the facts.
And the idea Charlie was shot by someone standing in front of him is ludicrous. Unless a bullet can travel straight,hang a hard right and then a hard left and hit the mark.
Charlie's dead. God saved others from the assassins bullet meant for him.
Disrespecting his widow and children with ridiculous projections insisting what those who were there saw didn't happen , is unkind.
In my opinion Occam's razor probably rules out 99.9% of conspiracy theories
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