When you receive the gift-promise, where does your trust then lie? Not with yourself that's for sure. You put your faith and trust in the fidelity of the Giver.So a child is trusting themselves when they trust in their parent to take care of them, yes that makes sense.
The verse on God’s drawing to salvation is John 6 v 44 where Jesus declares that “no one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day.” The Greek word translated “draw” is helkuo, which means “to drag” (literally or figuratively). [He draws us with loving kindness that we may repent.] Clearly, this drawing is a one-sided affair. God does the drawing to salvation; we who are drawn have a passive role in the process. There is no doubt that we respond to His drawing us, but the drawing itself is all on His part. (from GQ) So much for divine intervention not being needed at all. And so much for God not acting unilaterally in matters of salvation. The free will camp is washed out. They have the man who is a slave to sin and opposed to the things of God deciding with no help from God at all choosing to walk into the light which he hates as a lover of darkness and slave to sin. The free willer essentially claims these truths about the unregenerated man are not true. According to them, he can receive and comprehend the spiritual things of God even though Scripture says he cannot. According to them, he can summit to and obey God even though Scripture says he cannot.
Magenta partially answered my meaning with John 6:44.
Candy coating the core determinist "pre-birth sovereign lottery" dogma with Christian sounding sprinkles again are we?
You provided a sophomoric one word study from one verse, then backed it up with several paragraphs of your own opinions.
Yep.
Eh? I quoted a source and gave it, I guess your blindness extends to that also. Plus, nobody decides to hear. Are you one of the ones who says God would not command things people cannot do? Are you going to tell us how you circumcised your ears so you could hear? Because the gospel message is foolishness to the unregenerated. Just one of those many many many things Scripture explicitly articulates that FWers deny. Please also tell us how you circumcised your heart, also. Thanks. Oh, just to clarify, the part I said was that God draws us with loving kindness that we may repent. Did you miss that too?
I was born into a family that goes back to the ancient Hebrew Jew so I would have always been informed and taught about God.
Jesus answered, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick.” Luke 5 v 31 The Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost. Luke 19 v 10 For the Son of Man came to save the lost. Matthew 18 v 11 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners. Matthew 9 v 13b, Mark 2 v 17b I will seek the lost, bring back the strays, bind up the broken, and strengthen the weak; but the sleek and strong I will destroy. Ezekiel 34 v 1 6
Yes... they believe they have outsmarted God because God claims to have confounded the wise. FWers are certainly wise in their own eyes, to make such a good moral decision especially when Scripture proclaims the unregenerated are unable to do the things they claim he can, like bring forth fruit unto life from their flesh while serving the law of sin and refusing to come into the light as a slave to sin and lover of darkness.
But what would have happened if the lord didn't cloth them.
Without being loved what happens to a person who isn't living very well.
Without the name that's considered a name for the living like eve, how can you feel like living.
Did eve think her punishment had been taken away because Adam called her eve the mother of living.
Was eves spiritual existence totally secure the moment she was called eve.
Well it may have been but God coupled have looked at her whole life first spent with God . Is that a possibility
Some already call God an unjust tyrannical monster kidnapping people against their free will, and disgustingly enough, a rapist,What!? God didn't ask Paul for his permission first!? FWers will be aghast!
