The only problem is that people twist/ wrest the Scriptures to their man-made doctrines. Thats why there are so many problems…..
How do you know your not doing that?
The only problem is that people twist/ wrest the Scriptures to their man-made doctrines. Thats why there are so many problems…..
Yes, John tells his Christian readers to try (test) the spirits. But it is the spirits that are to be tested. It is not a test which Christians either pass or fail.
How do you know your not doing that?
You misunderstand the point I am making. Of course I accept what the scripture says. My point is you are making an assumption as to who God is addressing since the verse does not specify that.It’s not my opinion! Lol. It’s what the Scripture states, but you’re not willing to accept it.
When you wrest the verses to conform to your man-made doctrines, you will have problems and misunderstandings, because things won’t fit.
Consider how your comment pertains to what you and I have been discussing regarding Genesis 1:26. You view the reference to "US" in the scripture through the lens of a man-made doctrine.The only problem is that people twist/ wrest the Scriptures to their man-made doctrines. Thats why there are so many problems…..
Not to test the person. It is the spirit within the person.
There are 2 kinds of spirit within the person.
*People who have the spirit of the devil within them. Like this man.
LUKE 8:26-29
26 And they arrived at the country of the Gadarenes, which is over against Galilee.
27 And when he went forth to land, there met him out of the city a certain man, which had devils long time, and ware no clothes, neither abode in any house, but in the tombs.
28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not.
29 (For he had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For oftentimes it had caught him: and he was kept bound with chains and in fetters; and he brake the bands, and was driven of the devil into the wilderness.)
*People have the Holy Spirit within them. Like the Disciples of Jesus Christ.
ACTS 2:1-4
2 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
That is why the Lord Jesus instructed his Chosen to test the Spirit within the person.
If the person spirit is like the Disciples in Acts 2:1-4. That person is of God. We should listen to him..
If the person spirit is like in Luke 8:26-29. That person is not of God. We should not listen to him. He needs healing from the Lord.
Consider how your comment pertains to what you and I have been discussing regarding Genesis 1:26. You view the reference to "US" in the scripture through the lens of a man-made doctrine.
I believe in Jesus dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Not that Jesus is one of three people in the Godhead. (Col 2:9-12)Only it’s not man-made! It’s visible throughout the NC, but you’re failing to see it! When you understand things, everything fits together; it becomes a beautiful thing!!
It’s obviously not fitting for you…… I’m shocked that you people don’t believe in the Trinity; it’s basic understanding in the NC!!
Do you believe what Jesus revealed about Himself in the Book of Revelation?Only it’s not man-made! It’s visible throughout the NC, but you’re failing to see it! When you understand things, everything fits together; it becomes a beautiful thing!!
It’s obviously not fitting for you…… I’m shocked that you people don’t believe in the Trinity; it’s basic understanding in the NC!!
I believe in Jesus dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Not that Jesus is one of three people in the Godhead. (Col 2:9-12)
"Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also." 1 John 2:23
Again, your perception of who the "US" is is rooted in a man-made doctrine established hundreds of years after the apostolic era.
Answers are revealed and confirmed within scripture. It reveals what is and is not true. (Matt. 18:16, 2 Cor. 13:1...)
God's Word. God became flesh and dwelt among us.Even when Jesus said that He was in the beginning? I’m baffled!
Trinity means 3; those who believe in it acknowledge the Godhead in the beginning; hence the US, OUR, WE. It’s not a mystery!
In Luke, you would have to rely on the visual because that person would be possessed with demons having no home and no clothes, living among the tombs.
These are not examples of testing people!
There are verses that specify testing….
That doesn’t make any sense. Really, you need to put some effort into learning English if you value presenting biblical ideas clearly.If the person is posses BY the spirit of devil, you can't see it by visual.
Mary Magdalene never saw she was no homes, no clothes and living in the tombs.
If the person is posses BY the spirit of devil, you can't see it by visual.
Mary Magdalene never saw she was no homes, no clothes and living in the tombs. And yet she was posses by the spirit of devil. And not just 1 but 7 devils.
Jesus who is only have the power to see them.
LUKE 8:1-2
8 And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him,
2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,
The test you invented? Your tests are irrelevant. Grow up.
Exactly!Don't listen to the babbling theologians, focus, focus, on Jesus.
Says you. My Father in Heaven says otherwise. Your assessment of me is irrelevant.You've been exposed by Lord Jesus Christ that you failed the test and what kind of spirit within you.
Says you. My Father in Heaven says otherwise. Your assessment of me is irrelevant.
It is the Lord Jesus who gave the commandment to test the spirit.
1 JOHN 4:1
4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
The reason is to distinguish the spirit within the person.
Remember there are 2 kinds of spirit within the person.
*Those people who have the spirit of the devil within them. Like this man.
LUKE 8:26-29
26 And they arrived at the country of the Gadarenes, which is over against Galilee.
27 And when he went forth to land, there met him out of the city a certain man, which had devils long time, and ware no clothes, neither abode in any house, but in the tombs.
28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not.
29 (For he had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For oftentimes it had caught him: and he was kept bound with chains and in fetters; and he brake the bands, and was driven of the devil into the wilderness.)
*Those people have the Holy Spirit within them. Like the Disciples of Jesus Christ.
ACTS 2:1-4
2 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utteran
People like those in Luke 8:26-29 are not of God. We should not listen to them.
People like the chosen of God in Acts 2:1-4 are of God. Then we should listen to them.
How to distinguish those people whose the spirit within them is same as in Acts 2:1-4 and same as in Luke 8:26-29?
In the New Testament those people have the spirit like the Disciples in Acts 2:1-4 are the Chosen of God because their recognition to Jesus is a revelation from God the Father (Matthew 16:15-17). So they know who God the Father is (John 8:19)
The Scribes & Pharisees because their recognition to Jesus is not a revelation from the Father. So even they worshipped and loved God. The spirits within them is same as the spirit of the man in Luke 8:26-29. Because of that Jesus called them liars..
JOHN 8:54-55
54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
And so Jesus exposed them what kind of spirit they have.
JOHN 8:44
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
The test you invented? Your tests are irrelevant. Grow up.
I don't know why you are still saying to test the spirit is my invention only.
Perhaps you are trying to teach the readers to ignore 1 JOHN 4:1.
Because you've been exposed by Lord Jesus Christ that you failed the test and what kind of spirit within you.
How pitiful the readers who learned from a person whose spirit within him is same as the Scribes & Pharisees or the man in Luke 8:26-29.
No wonder why you considered Scribes & Pharisees are not false Prophets.
His thoughts about me are what is important. He loved me enough to send His Son to die in my place. I don’t care what you think.Says you. My Father in Heaven says otherwise.
I don't think your address My Father in Heaven is valid to God.
You don't even know who he is then you are addressing him My Father.