Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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As usual you have your soteriology backwards. God's chosen people were elected long before time began, and they come to saving faith precisely because God predestined them in eternity.
And I don't add any words to scripture. Quit lying about me. Don't you know God hates liars!?
That should be mandatory as long as it was done truthfully and alongside scripture. It would show it up for what it is, a piecemeal work of literature that makes no historical, philosophical or spiritual sense.
Great post! Thanks.
What the reformed/calvie/tulip theory folks overlook is the fact that the Lord Jesus Christ reconciled the world to Himself. He propitiated the Father and the Father is completely satisfied concerning His judgement and wrath against sin.....For ALL of mankind.
God reconciled the world to Himself and will not deal with mankind through wrath and judgment for sin. He will deal with mankind through the life and work of the Lord Jesus Christ. He made ALL of mankind "savable."
Unbelievable that this is considered evil by the reformed crowd!
While this is largely true, Paul had to correct Peter. And no one knows all truth.You forgot to add what they teach is true.
Mankind knows the difference between good and evil. I never said differently. But what mankind doesn't know is God; for the world hates Him, hates his Son, hates wisdom, hates knowledge and loves the darkness unto death!
And thanks for confirming your ignorance of the Word. You don't have the first clue who the "us" is in Gen 3:22. Not surprised!
Just saying that I do not believe this door should be opened. Would you say the same if I told you that all teachers must be Calvinist?
Eisegesis is your schtick along with all other freewillers'. Did the Book of Proverbs teach you how to project your foibles and follies unto others?
That has been answered a thousand times .... Grace! It frees and enlightens the soul.
I have explained this often. All grace comes through, in and by Christ, who himself was a meek, mild, lowly, humble servant of God AND also my Federal Head. Therefore, God sees all his elect as being as righteous, holy and good as Christ himself. How else could God see his chosen people since Jesus atoned for and forgave all the elect's sins?
Paul did not correct Peter in the sense Peter needed to learn a truth. Peter already knew he should make no distinction between Jew and Gentile but did it anyway. So it had nothing to do with "not knowing all truth".
There is a world of difference between teaching truths that are unknown to the people and rebuking a believer who knows better.
It's not FWers favorite parable; for the land owner is far too powerful, sovereign, has too many rights and and can dispense with what is His according to his good pleasure.
@Rufus has repeatedly said it was his humbleness, then he received Grace.
I still have not received an answer of how he humbled his natural man to receive Grace.
Nope that would make it by man's work through his intellectual abilities. Instead, it comes as a byproduct of salvation as a gift. And that too has been posted a thousand times.
[2Pe 1:1 KJV] 1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
Paul rebuked a believer who had forgotten a fundamental truth; so the end result was sin which is the same end result for those who are ignorant of the truth. As a matter of fact, Peter in his epistles acknowledged and understood the the critical importance of constantly reminding the saints of the truth!
That answer begs the question! How can anyone be free and enlightened by Grace before they receive it? Your answer presumes all mankind receives God's grace by default. But the condition for receiving grace is humility. Therefore, only God's elect in Christ receive grace due to His humility!
Really?? I have not seen that one. I guess "humble" is not a word I naturally associate with @Rufus
I used to work with a Muslim, and we had some discussions about various things.
I asked him how he could know he pleases Allah.
His answer?
"I am so humble."
He thought he was.
Behavior is doctrine in action. Peter also admitted that some of what Paul said was difficult to understand. Doesn't sound like someone who understands all truth.