Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Kroogz said:
He reconciled the WORLD/ALL to Himself by His death. He propitiated the Father concerning ALL sin.

To be JUSTIFIED and saved by His life?...........Acts 16:31.


Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved you and your household< equal privilege and equal opportunity for ALL
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Did you not understand the verse I included in my post? It said clearly that all those whose Christ's death applied to, they were reconciled to God. That means for those not so reconciled, they weren't covered by it.
Acts 16:31 does not mention the world, at least not as far as I can determine. Anyway, the question is actually one of HOW does someone come to belief, not what happens if they truly believe. The aspect of how is found elsewhere.
 
Kroogz said:
Judged according to their deeds. Christ is the perfect standard.

The dead are not judged "according to the deeds of Christ."........All would be saved if that were true.
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Okay, I'll make it clearer for you: their deeds will be measured against the deeds of Christ.
 
rogerg said:
Okay, I'll make it clearer for you: their deeds will be measured against the deeds of Christ.
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Unless you can qualify to die for the sins of the world?
We are not measured against the deeds of Christ, who only walked on earth for three years of ministry.

God will measure your works according to the capacity for life He grants you.

You may walk the earth for forty years of being saved?

Forty years of doing works?
You believe Jesus did all the same works God will bring your way, that Jesus squeezed into just three?

Your works are uniquely just for you, assigned by God!

For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, ​
which God prepared in advance for us to do.​

Ephesians 2:10
 
Genez said:
Why should you take offense? When it is you who are doing something to offend the other?

Typical...





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All goes back to what I said earlier...for all the knowledge you have gained, you haven't acquired any wisdom.
 
rogerg said:
It said clearly that all those whose Christ's death applied to, they were reconciled to God.
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Yep. and it is clearly........ ALL. Christ Propitiated the Father. All sin is finished/reconciled.
2 Cor 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
 
Kroogz said:
Yep. and it is clearly........ ALL. Christ Propitiated the Father. All sin is finished/reconciled.
2 Cor 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
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Wrong world. The world to come is the one in view, not this one. This world is to be destroyed.

[Isa 65:17 KJV] 17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
 
Cameron143 said:
All goes back to what I said earlier...for all the knowledge you have gained, you haven't acquired any wisdom.
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You have no clue.
You have only your spiel, which you have perfected over the years according to instinct and your sin nature tendencies.

You don't really understand me.
But, you think you do.

If you were not useful for me, I would put you on Ignore.
So far, you have been useful.
For, I can use your example to help others with.
 
Cameron143 said:
You don't see the sovereignty of God in the parable. While there are many points to be made from the parable, the sovereignty of the land owner to control and dispense of his abundance is quite clear.
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In other words, you have no clue....
 
Kroogz said:
Yep. and it is clearly........ ALL. Christ Propitiated the Father. All sin is finished/reconciled.
2 Cor 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
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And to demonstrate that reconciliation was not made for all:

[Rev 21:8 KJV] 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
 
Genez said:
You have no clue.
You have only your spiel, which you have perfected over the years according to instinct and your sin nature tendencies.

You don't really understand me.
But, you think you do.

If you were not useful for me, I would put you on Ignore.
So far, you have been useful.
For, I can use your example to help others with.
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Exactly what I said of you a few posts back. At least you are learning.
 
NightTwister said:
Another Red Herring

Do you think if you scream the same thing over and over again it means anything different than when you just said it?
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Rufus said:
The much better and more appropriate questions would be: Why do you trust in mere humans? How do YOU know that they recorded or remembered everything accurately the apostles told them? Or why do you elevate their writings to the level of the inspired, infallible Word of God?
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From both posts it would almost and I am trying to give the benefit of the doubt here but the both posts almost seems to be saying to me that even though John, Peter, Paul wrote the text they really didn't understand the text when they explained it to their Disciples because the Disciples say they were instructed it meant Free Will and that Jesus died for both the saved and those who rejected Him?

But the idea that you both could think John, Peter, and Paul would be so IGNORANT of what they wrote and taught just really shines a great light on just how far the Reformed will go to spread their maligned Doctrine. They will go so far as to say the very men who wrote the majority of the New Testament didn't have a clue about any of it.

Honestly, that's hard to believe they didn't understand. It really seems that they taught their Disciples correctly and their Disciples documented truthfully what they were taught by John, Peter, and Paul.
 
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