Christian perspectives on transgender ideology?
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I can believe that. Where in the Bible does it mention this, please?
Deuteronomy 22:5 is the most succinct and direct about it. Other verses like the prohibition on homosexuality also apply.
You don't have to look far...
Genesis 1:27: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them"
Hello Amanda,
This has been in the news a lot.
Is that why you introduced your opening statement with this question?
I'm Just curious.
I don't see Transgender as an ideology. Besides a sin according to our faith,it is a mental illness.
I think many who enable the disorder are doing so because it is easier to give in,rather than stand up.
The idea of mutilating children who think they are inside themselves the opposite sex ,and so to make their outside what their mental illness inside says should be there instead is,in my view,the definition of Satanic.
And it is irreversible.
Personally,I will never use pronouns to refer to someone who insists they are the opposite sex to that if their God given gender.
Never.
They need help. Not concession.
I think many who enable the disorder are doing so because it is easier to give in,rather than stand up.
The idea of mutilating children who think they are inside themselves the opposite sex ,and so to make their outside what their mental illness inside says should be there instead is,in my view,the definition of Satanic.
And it is irreversible.
Personally,I will never use pronouns to refer to someone who insists they are the opposite sex to that if their God given gender.
Never.
They need help. Not concession.
My daughter recently contacted me after 14 years of us not having a relationship due to her choice to take hormones and decide she isn’t a female. I am now having to deal with her choice which I never decided to research or understand because it didn’t seem right anyway.
I’d have to agree with you just on the results that this transgender fad has caused. I see so many families torn apart.
Indeed.
It's a travesty. And I think it is only going to get worse.
I'm sorry to hear that.
That must break your heart.
I'll offer two videos you can share with your daughter. They are clear brief gospel messages that will be her salvation if she decides to put her trust in Jesus.
4 Minutes of Good News
God Loves This Man
If you get push back, there's been some troublemakers join the forum lately, a homosexual an atheist who have tried to sow discord, take up a lot of time and spam the members.
I believe you are sincere. It's just a very coincidental timing that makes us suspicious.
I definitely disagree with homosexuality as well. My daughter chose this path in secret while in school and later as an adult she had other people who advocated for her right to be called a different gender. When I refused, I was screamed at. All of these things; The secrecy, the erratic behavior and the distancing all tell me that this choice isn’t something people are feeling proud of. Every person I have come in contact with who supports transgender ideas doesn’t ever support or respect other people’s beliefs. There’s a definite pattern.
Such a difficult situation to be in. But you are doing the right thing by researching and relationally staying in contact. It seems the transgender issue is rooted in Gender dysphoria either as a child or later due to peer pressure and community acceptance.
Typically children will grow out of it. But the once who find themselves influenced by Hollywood, the internet, classmates, etc become entangled in a web of lies and a sea of validation.
They find a friend group, who rebels against the old ways of their parents generation.
To make things worse it doesn't just involve looking differently but now they must act the opposite sex from their mannerisms, body language, and even more damaging the sexual differences they now try to mimic. The radical LGBT is very cult like, if you don't fall in line, then you're labeled with hurtful names, defriended, and mocked.
The only answer to healing, is legit therapy. They have to feel safe and eventually understand that to change gender or sex is impossible. We can not change our DNA. Even if a person was born deformed or without reproductive organs, their DNA is still going to determine their gender and sex.
It is biologically impossible. If drugs and surgery are needed to create an image, that proves it to be unnatural.
Summary: It is indeed true that God made only two genders and each gender has a purpose. God made men for certain roles just as He made women for certain roles. Men will never give birth. Women will never be able to outdo men with muscle mass.
Praying for you and hope she comes around to the truth before irreversible damage is done.
It's messed up, no question about that. There are two genders, period. A person can take hormones, get surgery and wear different clothing, but they can never change the gender they were given at birth.
Now, that being said, I find it extremely troubling that so many people who call themselves Christian have decided to demonize and hate these people rather than love them as our Lord commanded. They're not demonic, they're confused people who need help. So from a Christian perspective, I'd say don't enable them; but by the same token, love them and try to help them like we would anyone else. We're all sinners saved by grace.
Than-you so much for your response! When all of this started my focus was on the loss of my relationship with my daughter. She didn’t want to talk about it with me and I couldn’t understand what was happening or why. Back then I didn’t have any opinions about transgender issues, in fact, I had no idea what the word transgender even meant! I was still trying to have a relationship with my son at this time and my daughter was still talking to him. So I asked him a bunch of questions about this. I wasn’t judgmental at all. Unfortunately, my son’s girlfriend was in the back bedroom listening to the conversation and heard me not switching my daughter’s pronouns. She stomped in the room and started screaming at me nonstop about not being respectful and I wasn’t allowed in her house. I had been invited over for Christmas and to spend the night with them and my grandchildren. She continued to speak in behalf of my daughter and I calmly said that I would have to talk to Devin (my daughter) about that. This infuriated her further and she repeatedly screamed for me to get out of her house. I calmly replied each time that I had no problem leaving as soon as she moved from between me and my suitcases. Finally my son gently nudged her back into the back room and I took my luggage and headed back to the train station with tears streaming down my face.
After some time it became clear that my son’s girlfriend had her own identity issues and was projecting her own feelings of rejection about herself onto this situation.
I made several attempts to communicate with my daughter but she never responded. I really didn’t want to know what the internet had to say about transgender, I wanted to know what my daughter was feeling so I didn’t look into anything past that definition. Instead I mourned the loss of our relationship.
Recently I received a text message from her and so I looked her up on Instagram and found out that her decisions on transgender hadn’t changed. I had been hoping all these years that this was a fad? Now I realize it’s time for me to deal with this and I contacted a group that came up on the internet when I typed in “Support for Parents of Transgender Children”. I was contacted by the group coordinator and was told that I had to be vetted before being allowed in their chat groups. During this vetting process I asked how the group in general felt about discussing transgender issues from a religious perspective. This question caused her discomfort and she told me that many group parents are gay and lesbian and that they believe this is completely different than transgender, which is wrong and damaging. She did mention the term dysmorphia and that they believe transgender is a mental illness. I decided this group wasn’t what I was needing.
I did talk to the coordinator about acceptance and respect that I believed was needed on both sides of the relationship and when I showed this compassion she was comfortable for the first time in the hour conversation.
I’ve noticed with “Help Groups” without God as an answer to their troubles, they seek answers from their emotional despair and they aren’t ever comforted. So I joined this chat group this week and everyone’s responses have been amazing!
My opinion is that its obviously a sin, but condenming those who practice is not helpful for anyone. We all sin, in various different ways. One sinner is no better than the other, we all have fallen short and need the grace of God.
I also believe that its helpful to call out sins, but to maintain a proper law/gosple distinction when doing so.
The ideology may be sinful, but these people need help and love. They are falling into the trap of the evil one. They're miserable in their bodies/encourage others to reject themselves.
I have compassion for the great distress they are in. Often times they've been sexually abused in childhood and that had caused hatred towrds being who they are.
Those who just support it without being transgender themselves, I feel compassion for as well. They want to be sensitive and loving but they're brainwashed into false ideas of what that is. They think they're doing the right thing. And the hatred they feel in their hearts towrds people who disagree, this is sad. Imagine being full of such hate. It hurts everyone involved.
My idea is, name it as a sin, tell whoever that they dont have to be cleansed of sin before they can come to christ, and that he will cleanse them over time. That ideally we would like them to feel comfortable in their own body and love themselves the way God had designed them. Because God made us all for a purpose and we are exactly how he made us physically for a reason. He knitted us in our mother's womb, choosing everything about us that he had intentioned. Ideally we will live out his will for our lives, and that includes accepting ourselves for how he made us. Counseling would be helpful for these people, why hate yourself for who you are? You can not run away from reality. You can pretend, but that can only get you so far. It is sad.
Ive talked to and have known many transgrenders. Some were freinds. And ive also been a part of the LGBTQ+ in the past. I have compassion for these people.
I also believe that its helpful to call out sins, but to maintain a proper law/gosple distinction when doing so.
The ideology may be sinful, but these people need help and love. They are falling into the trap of the evil one. They're miserable in their bodies/encourage others to reject themselves.
I have compassion for the great distress they are in. Often times they've been sexually abused in childhood and that had caused hatred towrds being who they are.
Those who just support it without being transgender themselves, I feel compassion for as well. They want to be sensitive and loving but they're brainwashed into false ideas of what that is. They think they're doing the right thing. And the hatred they feel in their hearts towrds people who disagree, this is sad. Imagine being full of such hate. It hurts everyone involved.
My idea is, name it as a sin, tell whoever that they dont have to be cleansed of sin before they can come to christ, and that he will cleanse them over time. That ideally we would like them to feel comfortable in their own body and love themselves the way God had designed them. Because God made us all for a purpose and we are exactly how he made us physically for a reason. He knitted us in our mother's womb, choosing everything about us that he had intentioned. Ideally we will live out his will for our lives, and that includes accepting ourselves for how he made us. Counseling would be helpful for these people, why hate yourself for who you are? You can not run away from reality. You can pretend, but that can only get you so far. It is sad.
Ive talked to and have known many transgrenders. Some were freinds. And ive also been a part of the LGBTQ+ in the past. I have compassion for these people.
I am so terribly sorry you are going through this.
It appears you live in Oregon, which one of the WORST offenders of this type evil in schools. I'd implore young parents to do whatever you have to get your child OUT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!!!!
There are thousands of stories similar to this young lady's. MANY deeply wish they never listened to schools, DRs, and others, and are trying to detransition. Find a bunch of the detransitioners stories and give them to your daughter.
May God Bless you.
https://rumble.com/v4karp5-after-cr...le-mastectomy-i-detransitioned-laura-bec.html
I will pray that you and your daughter will be able to have some kind of a relationship. Of course what would be ideal is if the Lord opens her heart and mind and she got saved. I'll pray for that as well.
