Your only show anger, judgement, dismissiveness, and intolerance towards fellow Christians. Why do you think that is?
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Their whole premise is based on them understanding and accepting what Scripture says they cannot.
They think so highly of themselves that Scripture does not even apply to them!
Not for them God confounding the intelligence of the wise. They outsmarted Him. <= what they tell us amounts to.
How 'bout heart resistance!? Or man's innate evil nature actively promotes "volitional resistance".
Job 11:12
12 But a stupid man will get understanding
when a wild donkey's colt is born a man!
ESV
Prov 11:6
6 The righteousness of the upright delivers them,
but the unfaithful are trapped by evil desires.
NIV
Eccl 8:7-8
8 No man has power to retain the spirit, or power over the day of death. There is no discharge from war, nor will wickedness deliver those who are given to it.
ESV
Isa 1:5-6
5 Why will you still be struck down?
Why will you continue to rebel?
The whole head is sick,
and the whole heart faint.
6 From the sole of the foot even to the head,
there is no soundness in it,
but bruises and sores
and raw wounds;
they are not pressed out or bound up
or softened with oil.
ESV
Jer 13:23
23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin
or the leopard his spots?
Then also you can do good
who are accustomed to do evil.
ESV
Hos 5:4
4 Their deeds do not permit them
to return to their God.
For the spirit of whoredom is within them,
and they know not the Lord.
ESV
ah well see this because things that are important to one is not important to another m,
and when somebody is telling me something important I have ears but if its not important I have this ability to just still take notice but just let it go over my head. Well most of time,
But its just you can never have true empathy for another persons spirit, it just the way it is you can suffer with them tho.
You can even care for
eh ?
What are you saying ?
On what bases Are you saying Gods sovereignty allows sin ?
And tell me why you hate it when Gods sovereignty is abused.
Are you sure you've got this right ?
tell me how you see God's sovereign will
Wasn't it he who said that God created man to give him a certain degree of autonomy (sovereignty)? So...since that's the case and Satan is also a free moral agent, then maybe Satan is really the power behind the curtain. The Fall was planned by the evil one and perfectly implemented. Mission Accomplished!
Since Adam was very likely the Serpent's seed (according to the preponderance of biblical evidence), I'm waiting for CV5 to elevate the evil one to the superhero level of Adam.
A part of their nature is being exposed to them so God can work on it if they should find themselves feeling so inclined.
Personally, I believe it stems from impatience and a hunger to become certain - pushing out all doubt - now, not later.
In the tiny universe of FWers, God's will is entirely dependent upon and contingent on man's inviolable, sacred, sacrosanct "freewill". The omniscient God of scripture is just a passive spectator in the sky who is forever learning from the sons of men whenever He gazes through cosmic crystal ball. FWers have far more affinity with Deism than they do with Theism.
Wasn't it he who said that God created man to give him a certain degree of autonomy (sovereignty)? So...since that's the case and Satan is also a free moral agent, then maybe Satan is really the power behind the curtain. The Fall was planned by the evil one and perfectly implemented. Mission Accomplished!
Since Adam was very likely the Serpent's seed (according to the preponderance of biblical evidence), I'm waiting for CV5 to elevate the evil one to the superhero level of Adam.
Rufus you know how to create, negative, inane things to distract others away from what is important.
That's your job...
Here's a cup of coffee.
Hope it sobers you up!You remind me of the kid who sat in back of the classroom who threw spitballs at people sitting in front of him.
Here's some more!
Does that mean that he now leads a sinless life?Not only that but our aspiring bible scholar got the the whole faith-obedience thing backwards! Why am I not surprised? Studier essentially said (to paraphrase) that there's no faith without obedience. That's interesting. Yet, Hebrews doesn't tell us that without obedience it's impossible to please God. But it does teach that without faith it's impossible to please Him (Heb 11:6).
But there's even more. Hebrews also teaches that the disobedient Hebrews were not able to enter God's rest (the Land) ultimately because of their lack of faith (Heb 3:19-4:2).
These FWers can't even get the fundamentals of the Christian Faith right, let alone Studier's so-called "advanced spiritual truth".
Proving my point. Blessings to you.Here's a cup of coffee.
You remind me of the kid who sat in back of the classroom who threw spitballs at people sitting in front of him.
Here's some more!
My "job" is to reveal the sleazy, slimy, serpentine underbelly of FWT.
Now...go run off and join your bud CV5, as I believe right about now he's bowing down low with his face in the dust to the wooden image he carved out of his superhero Adam, as Idolatry is always a byproduct of Pride.
I would go for deism I think, only for the reason people caring more for themselves could think God does not intervene, I dunno really im just sick of the cursing. I would like to know his views to be honest.
@Rufus said:
"No, only you would think such nonsense! God clearly decreed the Fall. He predicted the Fall and to facilitate it, He cast his arch enemy down to earth instead of to the lake of fire after he sinned. The Fall was always the eternal plan!"
False. I believe nothing of the sort.
To be clear, I stridently disagree with everything in bold.
But what I DO believe is that this is these are the Biblically accurate accusations of Satan.
Which I also believe you believe and repeat!