Maybe the Singular form written of the gifts was considered too which could be from each wise man.
gold, and frankincense and myrrh.
Why God the Father considered this fruit as forbidden?
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Maybe the Singular form written of the gifts was considered too which could be from each wise man.
gold, and frankincense and myrrh.
Thanks. I don't think it really follows. However, the number of wise men is not important, or God would have told us.
As we know. God the Father have the foreknowledge.
Perhaps in the new coming threads, God will reveal it.
Today might not be the time for God's revelation.
Anyway, the topic is all about forbidden fruit.
Tree #2: TREE OF LIFE
GENESIS 2:16
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
We are free to read what the 1st witness statement (words of God)
We are also free to wait for the statement of the 2nd witness that witnesses the 1st witness statement. (Truth in the words of God)
With the truth in the words of God, God the Father have his standard for Good & Evil.
One person can give 3 gifts! Lame argument. If it doesn’t say, leave it alone.
We are WARNED not to add or take away from His word—- Rev. 22:18-19
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It's been a bit of a mystery to me why the shepherds, whom I assume were
Jews, had to go search for Jesus, whereas the wise men, whom I assume
were foreigners, were led directly to his location.
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It's been a bit of a mystery to me why the shepherds, whom I assume were
Jews, had to go search for Jesus, whereas the wise men, whom I assume
were foreigners, were led directly to his location.
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God the Father for being the truth he has his own standard for Good & Evil.
He gave his warning so we won't forget it.
ISAIAH 55:8-9
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
They did have the directions of the angel. There wouldn't have been any other new-born baby in an animal feeding-trough, or manger. Yes, the shepherds had to look, but so did the wise men. We only read of the star guiding them after they had left Herod.
I don't get your point - sorry! Exodus 17:3 says:
“And the people thirsted there for water, and the people complained against Moses, and said, “Why is it you have brought us up out of Egypt, to kill us and our children and our livestock with thirst?”” (Ex 17:3 NKJV)
I don't understand how that applies to the shepherds and the wise men. Sorry for not understanding; perhaps it is obvious to other posters.
I don't get your point - sorry! Exodus 17:3 says:
“And the people thirsted there for water, and the people complained against Moses, and said, “Why is it you have brought us up out of Egypt, to kill us and our children and our livestock with thirst?”” (Ex 17:3 NKJV)
I don't understand how that applies to the shepherds and the wise men. Sorry for not understanding; perhaps it is obvious to other posters.
@Webers.Home asked a amazing question, and the answer isn't going to be simple, but incredibly rich in complexity.
i think this is a good place to start -
from the day God brought them out of Egypt, the Israelites grumbled against Him, saying that He brought them out only to kill them, their children and their animals.
the Jewish shepherds saw Him first - they are chosen of God to be His people - but they had to seek Him and find Him out, and what did they find in the stable?
a Jew, his wife, their children, animals, and the Fountain of Living Water.
just prior to Meribah in Exodus 17, in Exodus 16 God proves them, after they have again accused Him of murdering rather than saving them, by giving them the first sabbath - which they immediately break. and so they receive the Law soon after in Exodus 20
but the Gentiles were not given the oracles of God, nor were they subject to the Law - instead freely offered grace if they believe based on the things they were shown
Tree #2 TREE OF LIFE:
God the Father has his own standard for good & evil.
Look at Jonas.
In man's standard for good & evil, the people of Nineveh should not be forgiven.
But in God's standard they are forgiven.
JONAS 4:1-4
4 But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry.
2 And he prayed unto the Lord, and said, I pray thee, O Lord, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil.
3 Therefore now, O Lord, take, I beseech thee, my life from me; for it is better for me to die than to live.
4 Then said the Lord, Doest thou well to be angry?
In man's standard for good and evil, Mary Magdalene should not be forgiven. Perhaps she was a prostituted and she ruined many family men's life and made some families broken.
But in God standard she is forgiven.
LUKE 7:37-48
37 And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment,
38 And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment.
39 Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.
40 And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on.
41 There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty.
42 And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most?
43 Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.
44 And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head.
45 Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet.
46 My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment.
47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.
48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.
Every word of God has meaning according to the revelation of God to the word.
Yes, let us leave it for now.
Because there is significance to the number 3.
Such as: Jonas was in the belly of the big fish in three days. Why 3 and why not 1 or 2 only?
Jesus raised from the dead in three days. Why 3 and not 1or 2 only?
One day, the Lord God will reveal to us the meaning of the 3 gifts.
You are confusing the issues.
Knowledge of good and evil is a burden which only God Himself is capable of carrying. God's standard of good and evil has nothing to do with the tree of life.
Because of Adam's choice to eat from the forbidden tree, his access to the tree of life was blocked.
That sentence doesn't make sense.
Jonah was a "type", or prefigurement, of Jesus. Many old Testament characters prefigured Jesus in some way. That doesn't mean there is a particular significance to the number 3.
He already has. Perhaps one day He will reveal it to you.
I believe in Lord Jesus that only those whose the recognition to Jesus is a revelation from God the Father will only reveal to them
The Jews although they are following the commandments of God it was never revealed to them.
But for the Disciples of Christ since their recognition to Jesus was a revelation from God (Matthew 16:15-17)
The revelation God is only for them.
MARK 4:34
34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.
I don't think truth was revealed to you.
Give me a proof.
Could I politely suggest that you try reading your posts before clicking on "Post reply"? That way, you might avoid sentences that don't make sense, like this one: "I believe in Lord Jesus that only those whose the recognition to Jesus is a revelation from God the Father will only reveal to them." If English isn't your first language, then I apologise. I see that you are in the Philippines, so perhaps your first language is something like Tagalog. However, if you do speak English, you do need to check your posts, otherwise the rest of us can have no idea what you mean.
In man's standard for good & evil.
Saul of Tarsus is evil. Because he his a murderer of Jesus Christ followers.
For the Disciples of Christ, Saul of Tarsus should not be forgiven.
In God's Standard for good & evil.
But in the eyes of God, Saul of Tarsus can be forgiven.
He was elected by Jesus Christ as a replacement of Judas Iscariot.
And he became Paul.
Several things seem wrong in your post. First, regarding forgiveness, Jesus taught the disciples to pray:
“And forgive us our sins, For we also forgive everyone who is indebted to us. And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one.”” (Lu 11:4 NKJV)
So it is wrong to say Saul/Paul should not be forgiven.
Second, he was not elected by Jesus Christ as a replacement of Judas Iscariot. The replacement for Judas was Matthias:
“And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples (altogether the number of names was about a hundred and twenty), and said, “Men and brethren, this Scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit spoke before by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who became a guide to those who arrested Jesus; “for he was numbered with us and obtained a part in this ministry.” (Now this man purchased a field with the wages of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out. And it became known to all those dwelling in Jerusalem; so that field is called in their own language, Akel Dama, that is, Field of Blood.) “For it is written in the book of Psalms: ‘Let his dwelling place be desolate, And let no one live in it’; and, ‘Let another take his office.’ “Therefore, of these men who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, “beginning from the baptism of John to that day when He was taken up from us, one of these must become a witness with us of His resurrection.” And they proposed two: Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. And they prayed and said, “You, O Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which of these two You have chosen “to take part in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.” And they cast their lots, and the lot fell on Matthias. And he was numbered with the eleven apostles.” (Ac 1:15-26 NKJV)
Thirdly, Saul did not become Paul. Unlike Simon being called Peter, or Jacob being called Israel, Saul/Paul didn't have his name changed by God. Saul was his Hebrew name, and Paul was the Roman equivalent.