you were the one who complained that Genez "decided to reply to a single sentence rather than the entire post".
I went through a similar situation earlier ... which is why I said to Genez
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Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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you were the one who complained that Genez "decided to reply to a single sentence rather than the entire post".
I went through a similar situation earlier ... which is why I said to Genez
Since the gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation ... when the gospel was preached to you and you did not believe, it was not because you "suppressed" ... you just "rejected" ?
and you claim you "rejected" because "God was not working in [you] to bring [you] to faith" ... even though God sent a faithful believer to preach the gospel to you?
you want me to believe that? ... rather than believe what God's Word tells me? ... not happening Cameron143.
When the gospel was preached and you did not believe it was because you suppressed the truth in unrighteousness as is stated in Rom 1:18.
The good news is that God, in His mercy, grace and lovingkindness, continues to reach out to mankind more than once in the lifetime of a person.
God wants the wicked to turn from their wicked ways. Sad that some do not turn. Happy that you turned. Happy that I turned.
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Many people here who quote the whole of a post "try to make a point by misrepresenting the entirety of what was said".
I was not offended by your insisting that if I am going to respond only to a portion of a post I should still submit the whole post.Cameron143 said:
However, when you and others make disparaging remarks concerning other born again believers ... as provided in the links I submitted when you asked ... you and others are definitely not following the instruction given by the Lord Jesus Christ ... and reconfirmed by Paul ... concerning how believers are to treat one another. In fact, Paul's instruction is that the believers are to do good unto all ... especially to those who are of the household of faith.
Galatians 6:7-10 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
So even if you all think that those you refer to as "FWers" or "freewillers" are not born again, the instruction is still to do good unto all men ... of course, under your interpretation of "all men" ... maybe God really didn't mean "all men" ... smh ...
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I will try to keep your aphasia in mind, Jordon, if/when I reply to a post you submit ... praying for. you ...yep they are related I hit an oil patch whilst cornering at high speed in race, a bit of a bump but I'm ok.
The only speech problems I get is I can't talk sometimes, but as soon a start to talk I'm ok
But mainly it can only be seen when I'm writing like here I've already had to correct leaving words out several times, and putting words in the wrong order. but I'm fine no real damage really memory is good,
I'm not allowed to race professionally anymore, so I just race with my vr head set now.
Not the real deal but I love it just the same.
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You can believe that people only suppress if you like, but when people shared the gospel and I didn't believe it didn't mean I didn't believe God existed. I've believed in the existence of God even when I wasn't saved. I didn't suppress the knowledge of the truth of the existence of God.
So you believe the sentiment displayed in this post is evidence of doing good to all. Smh and your frequent eye rolls evidences adherence to the verses you quoted. In the very post you admonish the behavior of others, you do the same thing you charge others with. Perhaps you should first practice what you preach. Jesus began first to do, then teach.
Also, I haven't commented on anyone's eternal estate. Above my pay grade.
2 Corinthians 4 verses 3-4 ~ 2 Corinthians 4 verse 4 ~ Even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, Who is the image of God.
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im ok really no need to be to concerned, it's just a switch thing where my mind switches of temporarily, honestly I'm fine.
I'm nearly completely fully recovered so don't worry about it.
As I can fully express and communicate, all that's left really is brief spell of vacancy which really isn't associated to asphasi that's more associated to the actually trauma.
So it's all good as I'm sure you've noticed I communicate pretty well.
Honestly it's fine. I'm not where near as bad has some people are, I was at first tho, but I'm fully recovered all most.
Wished I hadn't of said anything now as none of you wouldn't have even noticed.
I don't want any of you to treat me differently, because im nearly fully recovered.
Different people get Aspasia like people who have had a stroke or brain injury, there intelligence remains the same but they just struggle to communicate there not retarded in anyway . Well I'm now probably 99. percent recovered, my vacancy spells are more of an issues now than my asphasi, which my vacancy spells are just a brief couple of seconds here and there which isn't related to asphasi, and that no different to just switching of really.
Its all good, in matters of faith can handle anything , I'm well studied, and any issue most of the time concerning faith or disagreement I can handle.
I don't want any of you to treat me differently, because im nearly fully recovered.
Different people get Aspasia like people who have had a stroke or brain injury, there intelligence remains the same but they just struggle to communicate there not retarded in anyway . Well I'm now probably 99. percent recovered, my vacancy spells are more of an issues now than my asphasi, which my vacancy spells are just a brief couple of seconds here and there which isn't related to asphasi, and that no different to just switching of really.
Its all good, in matters of faith can handle anything , I'm well studied, and any issue most of the time concerning faith or disagreement I can handle.
I would not be surprised if you were to use the word miraculous anywhere in that personal story,
from surviving the accident in the first place to the level of ease with which you have recovered.
My twin brother suffered a brain hemorrhage almost forty years ago and the story from beginning
to end is miraculous. My ex had two brain bleeds two years apart. The first time he also cracked
his skull in two places. The second hemorrhaging two years later killed him.
I noticed something but I would not have guessed what you have told us...
yeah ... a lot of people believe in the existence of God yet do not believe the gospel.
I'm thinking that the times you heard the gospel yet did not believe were times God sent faithful believers to plant / water ... then God gave increase when you believed the gospel ... same with me.
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2 Corinthians 4 verses 5-7 ~ We do not proclaim ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake. For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” made His light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. Now we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this surpassingly great power is from God and not from us.
eyerolls and smh offend you? ... interesting ... I'd use the smilies, but for some reason other than
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, they appear wonky when I do.oh I don't know about that ... I provided a link wherein Magenta intimated that "FWers" don't understand the gospel ... and your response was seems so ... that appears to be commenting on someone's eternal state. if someone does not understand the gospel they can't believe the gospel ... if someone does not believe the gospel ... that impacts their eternal state.Cameron143 said:
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I won't treat you differently ... I'll just keep in mind if I don't quite understand a post. and, for the most part, if I don't understand a post, I ask for clarification. I know it's much easier to have a face to face conversation with someone and discussion by keyboard takes a little more time to get a point across ... not impossible, just not as easy as face to face.
God is good ... He'll see you through ... He'll never forsake you ... He'll guide your steps ... He'll comfort you during trying times and He'll rejoice with you when you rejoice ... God is so good to us ...Jordon said:
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sorry to hear that sis,
Your a twin as well that's so special it must have been really hard for you. Twins are amazing people with special gifts as well aww,
aww thanks I knew you had a kind heart, I'm almost there,
On Tuesday praise God I get all the debt wrote of I've acquired over the last 6 years and I've just signed a new contract for a new job doing nice easy phone sales only 30 hours week in a job I was very Good at, so no more night shift duty from next week, I've had to work in a factory for the last couple of months , but none of them even knew and noticed I had asphasi such is my recovery, honestly I'm fine.
but whilst where here chatting this free will discussion really isn't doing anyone any good anymore, just let it go someone between you and cam needs to be the first to just accept each others faith, I don't think it's doing you both any good .
One doesn't have to understand the outworking of salvation to be saved. They only have to believe. And if the criteria for salvation was doctrinal perfection, no one is saved.eyerolls and smh offend you? ... interesting ... I'd use the smilies, but for some reason other than
oh I don't know about that ... I provided a link wherein Magenta intimated that "FWers" don't understand the gospel ... and your response was seems so ... that appears to be commenting on someone's eternal state. if someone does not understand the gospel they can't believe the gospel ... if someone does not believe the gospel ... that impacts their eternal state.
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There's also a difference between functional judgment and final judgment. We all make functional judgements. Only Christ is qualified to make final judgments.
And nothing anyone posts offends me. That's not to say people aren't offensive sometimes and there are laws against being offensive. There are none against not taking offense.
Yep it is difficult to write down in words true meaning, and for people to know the true feeling behind the words, something we can get wrong, but really what i feel is what when it comes to any person, they can be a better version of themselves within the space of a couple of days, I know that better than anyone, at one stage no one could understand what I was saying, and I couldn't form words in speech properly, because the language part of my brain was damaged , writing sentences was almost near impossible, even know it felt like I was writing the right words, I wasn't at first I could even write a single letter, then little by little sentences began to form correctly,
It was weird as it was almost like I was becoming a new person all over again, made more weird by the fact all my intelligence was intact so I think it's fair to say the one thing all have is intelligence and the ability to be better version of ourselves even in our fallen state
It was weird as it was almost like I was becoming a new person all over again, made more weird by the fact all my intelligence was intact so I think it's fair to say the one thing all have is intelligence and the ability to be better version of ourselves even in our fallen state
There is no "we can do" implied by God regarding belief - that is an incorrect statement on your part - you focus on effect but ignore cause. Apparently, you don't understand the intent of the verses you've referenced, understand the nature of true belief, or understand who truly believes and why/how they do. That is, true belief comes only as God's gift and not by man's choice. The below and other like verses have been posted to you and those of your ilk numerous times in the past yet for some inexplicable reason they are always ignored as though they didn't exist, but they aren't optional. Next time you feel the need to post on the implications of true belief, first take them into consideration and only after you do so, then post accordingly.
[Phl 1:29 KJV]
29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
[2Pe 1:1 KJV]
1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
[1Co 2:5 KJV]
5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
[Jhn 10:26 KJV]
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
[1Pe 1:21 KJV]
21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
[Jhn 6:29 KJV]
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.