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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Never been a country. Palestinians were Jews and Arabs. Not todays "Palestinians". They were created out of whole cloth, they are no where in history. Easily proven.
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Jew and Arab are ethnicities. Palestinian is not and indicates a resident of a region, which is what a country is. This argument of yours is just a way to dehumanize the long-time occupants of that country in order to justify the covetous people who are openly stealing their land.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
God gave the land to the Jews, backed by Scripture.
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God gave the children of Israel land to live in based on a rental contract (the old covenant). Abide by the rental agreement and you can stay forever. Break the contract and you have to leave because it's the landlord's land, backed by scripture.

The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land [is] mine; for you [are] guests and resident aliens with me. Leviticus 25:23​
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
God gave the children of Israel land to live in based on a rental contract (the old covenant). Abide by the rental agreement and you can stay forever. Break the contract and you have to leave because it's the landlord's land, backed by scripture.

The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land [is] mine; for you [are] guests and resident aliens with me. Leviticus 25:23​
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God keeps His promises, it is still the land of His chosen people
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
God gave the children of Israel land to live in based on a rental contract (the old covenant). Abide by the rental agreement and you can stay forever. Break the contract and you have to leave because it's the landlord's land, backed by scripture.

The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land [is] mine; for you [are] guests and resident aliens with me. Leviticus 25:23​
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The earth is the Lord's and everything in it. That does not mean He can't give it to whom He pleases. It pleased Him to give the land to Abraham and his descendants. Does God throw you out of His salvation every time you sin? Are you saved one minute and condemned to hell the next? God's covenant with Abraham was unconditional. God keeps His promises. And that is proven by the existence of the modern state of Israel. Get over it.
 
God-fearing said:
Israel will not be fulfilled until the new heaven and earth comes.
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According to the NC/ NT, the Israel of today is NOT the same Israel in Jesus’ time. The spiritual Israel are those in Christ, heirs to Abraham through adoption.

If you recall, Abraham had 2 kids— Ishmael (via the bondwoman) and Isaac (via the free woman—Sarah). Disciples of Christ are heirs through Isaac, and Israel today are heirs through the bond woman. Gal. 4
 
No. God keeps His promises=they are still His Own, we have been grafted in as scripture teaches clearly.
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TruthDefender said:
According to the NC/ NT, the Israel of today is NOT the same Israel in Jesus’ time. The spiritual Israel are those in Christ, heirs to Abraham through adoption.

If you recall, Abraham had 2 kids— Ishmael (via the bondwoman) and Isaac (via the free woman—Sarah). Disciples of Christ are heirs through Isaac, and Israel today are heirs through the bond woman. Gal. 4
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Wrong. The Arabs are Ishmael's descendants. Islam makes the false claim that Israel belongs to Arabs. If their "Allah" is so powerful, why can't it kick Israel off the land? The answer is easy. Allah is another name for Satan and Lord Jesus defeated him.

The church is grafted into Israel. You do not cut down the tree when another branch is grafted in.
 
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TruthDefender said:
According to the NC/ NT, the Israel of today is NOT the same Israel in Jesus’ time. The spiritual Israel are those in Christ, heirs to Abraham through adoption.

If you recall, Abraham had 2 kids— Ishmael (via the bondwoman) and Isaac (via the free woman—Sarah). Disciples of Christ are heirs through Isaac, and Israel today are heirs through the bond woman. Gal. 4
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You seem to have found some teaching that just isn't true.
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Jew and Arab are ethnicities. Palestinian is not and indicates a resident of a region, which is what a country is. This argument of yours is just a way to dehumanize the long-time occupants of that country in order to justify the covetous people who are openly stealing their land.
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It is part of the dehumanizing language, very disturbing, and no Christian should adopt this language we already have a historical evidence of where this language leads.
 
TruthDefender said:
Only today, they are no longer His children.
His children are Christians. You can only be saved through Christ. :)

Please read Gal. 4, and Hebrews 7-10
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Please read Romans 9, 10 and 11 as well as the Old Testament. God never rescinded His covenant with Abraham, who was not Jewish. God's promise was to Abraham and his descendants. God reaffirmed that 55 times according to research that I've done. Some people still don't take the hint.

No one I know of here is claiming that Jews are saved because they are Jews. I don't know why you bring that up.
 
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Obviously NOT inspired.
Kind of like it is written in pencil so they can change to fit the situation.
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shittim said:
No. God keeps His promises=they are still His Own, we have been grafted in as scripture teaches clearly.
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Gentiles have been grafted in as scripture tells us, dont forget about that. Also being grafted in has nothing to do with the physical its Spiritual
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
God gave the children of Israel land to live in based on a rental contract (the old covenant). Abide by the rental agreement and you can stay forever. Break the contract and you have to leave because it's the landlord's land, backed by scripture.
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No, that's completely false. God made a covenant with Himself. There was a reason Abraham was put to sleep. God promised them the land, and they are living in it now.
 
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