We are commanded to love the Lord with all of our 'muchness,' and He knows better than we do the degree of our 'muchness,' which isn't as much muchness as He Is.
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Christ never ever condemns HAVING/DEMONSTRATING faith.
He only condemns NOT having/demonstrating it.....!
In fact it is perfectly clear that the more you have, and the greater and stronger that it is, the better He likes it....!
The super-determinist position is truly insane and inane not necessarily in that order.
These people have a problem buddy........I mean it's bad it's really bad.
My synopsis would be that believing is seeing and faith is believing without seeing, in that seeing might lead to believing but that believing doesn't necessarily lead to faith, but faith (which comes by hearing) does lead to seeing.
you asked ... I answered with Scriptural support for the answer ... you pivot ...
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I didn't use the term bound. I said that the natural man or carnal man is not subject to the law. Neither can he be according to Romans 8. That he does not hear or seek God are other things true of him. I believe all are due to the fact that he is spiritually dead.
Romans 6:17 explains that those who were once in sin now believed from the heart that form of doctrine delivered to them. In the process of saving an individual, God writes His law upon their heart by giving them a new heart...Ezekiel 36:26-27. This is what makes them subject them to the law. It is also what leads to their obedience. The unregenerated man cannot obey the command to believe. But the one who believes from the heart...Romans 10:9. His stony heart will not believe. His heart of flesh will. This is why regeneration must precede salvation.
If a new heart is required to be saved, then those who are saved are saved at the pleasure of God. This is what election and predestination is all about. Before the foundation of the world, God chose a people to Himself.
I realize this doesn't sit well with many people. I do believe it is what scripture teaches.
I understood what lrs68 was saying ... we can do what God tells us to do otherwise God would not give the instruction ... the issue is will we do as God instructs ... will we do what He tells us we can do?
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God wrote the work of the law in the heart of all descendants of Adam (Rom 2:15).
When a person is born again, God writes the law directly in the heart and places His law in the mind of the born again one (Heb 8:10).
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Over and over and over........You cannot claim PERSONAL faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
So you had better hope you are right.
I have personal faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.......If I was just elected to have faith? No skin off my back.
You guys go to the extreme to try to convince us you don't have personal faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. You had better hope you are right.
And I am telling you........Repent and put your PERSONAL trust in Christ.
No. I asked questions to see if your answer was the extent of what God says on the subject. Hardly a pivot; rather, an attempt to dig deeper. Why is exploring a subject in greater depth a pivot?
For us.
Anyone who has ever believed in the Lord Jesus Christ is saved. Only He knows.
Genesis 15:
4 And, behold, the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir.
5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.
6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
God's Word was spoken to Abraham ... Abraham believed ... God counted it to Abraham for righteousness.
God did not impute faith to Abraham ... God imputed righteousness to Abraham.
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So why did he later admit to not being able to keep a commandment? He wasn't referring to the will but his ability.
what does Cameron believe about the works of the law being written on all hearts
Do you believe there is only descendants of Adam left in the world.
You guys don't pay attention and again you bear false witness. I never said one's faith isn't personal. One must believe.
It's like this. The apostle Paul said he lives, yet not him; but that Christ lives in him. He was alive, but the source of that life was Christ.
Now apply that to faith.
Complete and utter nonsense. Seriously, complete nonsense. Nonsense. Get that through your head. Nonsense.
Seriously. Think about that as an educated man. Nonsense. You KNOW. You cannot be this ignorant.
you pivoted from the Lord Jesus Christ healing the blind being confirmation that He was Messiah in fulfillment of prophecy to "The invisible things of God are not known by the things that are seen?"
The record of the healing of the blind and the prophetic record do not say anything about "The invisible things of God are not known by the things that are seen".
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The determinists insinuate that Christ finds the faith of men toward Him offensive?
No. Zero scriptural evidence exist in support of this.
The faith men put in Him is COMMENDED in all instances and circumstances. Without exception.
To say otherwise is.....bizarre. If I were to speculate as to why the determinists are consumed by this kind of error, I would venture to guess that it is some kind of bogus work of the flesh humiliation ritual fetishism IMO.