Why God the Father considered this fruit as forbidden?

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Godsgood said:
It is very important to know if Jesus born in day time or in night time so that God will reveal the reason why he was born on that time and with that we know if we beg and ask the Mercy of God.

But neglecting and resist to know what time he was born then God the Father will reveal nothing. Then we will not beg and ask Mercy to him.
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I cam only say what I said before, that if it was important, God would have revealed it to us in His word. The only indication we have is that the shepherds were watching their flocks at night:

“8 ¶ Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night. 9 And behold, an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid. 10 Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. 11 “For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.” (Lu 2:8-11 NKJV)

But that doesn't actually tell us the time of day or night when Jesus was born. I am not neglecting or resisting anything in God's word. If you can tell me where in the bible we are told the time Jesus was born, I will believe it.
 
DavidLamb said:
I cam only say what I said before, that if it was important, God would have revealed it to us in His word. The only indication we have is that the shepherds were watching their flocks at night:

“8 ¶ Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night. 9 And behold, an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid. 10 Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. 11 “For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.” (Lu 2:8-11 NKJV)

But that doesn't actually tell us the time of day or night when Jesus was born. I am not neglecting or resisting anything in God's word. If you can tell me where in the bible we are told the time Jesus was born, I will believe it.
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the Jewish day begins at sunset.
so since the angel said "this day" to them while it was evening...
 
DavidLamb said:
I cam only say what I said before, that if it was important, God would have revealed it to us in His word. The only indication we have is that the shepherds were watching their flocks at night:

“8 ¶ Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night. 9 And behold, an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid. 10 Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. 11 “For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.” (Lu 2:8-11 NKJV)

But that doesn't actually tell us the time of day or night when Jesus was born. I am not neglecting or resisting anything in God's word. If you can tell me where in the bible we are told the time Jesus was born, I will believe it.
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Does it mean you don't know?

Perhaps other readers could tell us when Jesus was born if it is day time or night time.

This will prove your belief if it is true or not that it should be written first before you believe.
 
Godsgood said:
Tree #2: TREE OF LIFE
It is also free to eat this fruit.
By eating this fruit Life can be achieved.

God is not referring to our physical life because we are physically alive already.
But since all of us, in our time we will all die.
Therefore By eating this fruit we will achieve the Eternal Life.

To achieve Eternal Life we must follow Jesus as he commanded to the young ruler in Luke 18:22
Jesus claimed in John 14:6 I am the truth.
Therefore: By following Jesus is following the truth.
By following the truth will achieve Eternal Life.

According to Lord Jesus there are 2 witnesses to the truth.
That is Jesus as the Son of the living God and God the Father.
If Jesus bear witness for himself it is not true (1st witness).
God the Father witness what Jesus witnesses is the truth (2nd witness)
JOHN 5:31-32
31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

By believing the 2 witnesses of the truth will achieve the Eternal Life.
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The two witnesses of the truth.
Although the statement of the First witness isn't true but it is important and should not be disregarded because the second witness (statement is truth) will reveal the truth base on the statement of the first witness.

Therefore The Truth in the words of God composed of two witnesses.
 
Godsgood said:
Does it mean you don't know?

Perhaps other readers could tell us when Jesus was born if it is day time or night time.

This will prove your belief if it is true or not that it should be written first before you believe.
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But it was you who brought the matter up. Why can't you just provide bible references for the time of day or night Jesus was born?
 
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Godsgood said:
The two witnesses of the truth.
Although the statement of the First witness isn't true but it is important and should not be disregarded because the second witness (statement is truth) will reveal the truth base on the statement of the first witness.

Therefore The Truth in the words of God composed of two witnesses.
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If the first witness is not true, the second witness cannot make it true. Your conclusion does not follow your assertions.
 
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Godsgood said:
Does it mean you don't know?

Perhaps other readers could tell us when Jesus was born if it is day time or night time.

This will prove your belief if it is true or not that it should be written first before you believe.
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Why does it matter?? The take away point is that God the Son was indeed born on this planet. The time doesn’t matter!

You might want to read all 4 gospel accounts (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) to gain insight……
 
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TruthDefender said:
Why does it matter?? The take away point is that God the Son was indeed born on this planet. The time doesn’t matter!

You might want to read all 4 gospel accounts (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) to gain insight……
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when you are in love with someone, every detail about them is important, and everything they do is precious to you.
 
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Wasting time, arguments are? A waste of time we should be redeeming.
 
posthuman said:
because i love my Husband, and because everything in scripture testifies of Him, it matters to me what time He was born, and why He put a tree in the garden, and what kind of tree it was.

are you not interested in knowing Him, and all His ways?
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That’s great you have love for Him, happy to hear! However, whatever is not given to us in Scripture isn’t important for us.
I’ve read where He most likely wasn’t born in Dec, like most people tend to think. But again, He did not give us this info.

The take away is that He was born, died, and rose the 3rd day, and sits at the Right hand of God the Father. This is Scriptural!

Shalom in Him!
 
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posthuman said:
the Jewish day begins at sunset.
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To my understanding; the Jews' liturgical days typically always begin at
sunset, but when Jesus was here, their normal days began at sunrise. (John
11:9-10)

* The difference between liturgical days and normal days can be a bit
confusing for folks when they attempt to tally the time element predicted by
Matt 12:40 because they have to squeeze some nights in there somewhere.
_
 
TruthDefender said:
That’s great you have love for Him, happy to hear! However, whatever is not given to us in Scripture isn’t important for us.
I’ve read where He most likely wasn’t born in Dec, like most people tend to think. But again, He did not give us this info.

The take away is that He was born, died, and rose the 3rd day, and sits at the Right hand of God the Father. This is Scriptural!

Shalom in Him!
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what fruit was on the tree, and whether he was born in the evening or the morning, is in scripture.

we are supposed to study it, and use our minds to ponder it. study doesn't mean memorizing a few facts.

God is omniscient and omnipotent - - how complex do you think His Word is?
 
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Webers.Home said:
To my understanding; the Jews' liturgical days typically always begin at
sunset, but when Jesus was here, their normal days began at sunrise. (John
11:9-10)
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Hmm..

that passage just says, there are 12 hours in a day. but look at Genesis 1 again, there was evening, and morning, each day. no contradiction. Jesus is there speak g of the length of daylight, not of the beginning of 1/7 of a week. Scripture always speaks of that seventh beginning with darkness and finishing with light.

i don't think John 11:9-10 is describing reckoning a day as beginning with sunrise. even today it is the custom of Israel - because of how scripture was given - to mark days beginning and ending from sunset to sunset.

even if we were to see different reckonings of time in scripture ((which we do, the number of watches in a night, Jewish 3 and Roman 4)), when God speaks, there is no reason to think that God keeps a schedule as anything other than what He put in His law - - so when the Psalm ((two continue the example)) speaks of a thousand years being equal to a watch i the night, this is 4 hours, not 3.
 
Webers.Home said:
The difference between liturgical days and normal days can be a bit
confusing for folks when they attempt to tally the time element predicted by
Matt 12:40 because they have to squeeze some nights in there somewhere.
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quite simply, friday crucifixion is a complete fabrication of the papacy, trying to force God's Paschal pattern into the schedule of a pagan holiday calendar so as to minimize disruption to social norms in their worldly empire.

unfortunately the visible church at that time was far more concerned with earthly politics than Truth. more evidence that God's people were not called to rule the world any more than to involve themselves with it, but rather, to be called out of it.

Christ laid His life down on a wednesday and rose before, or possibly exactly at sunrise on a sunday. plenty of existing threads on that timeline ;)
 
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