Why God the Father considered this fruit as forbidden?

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DavidLamb said:
So are you saying that by eating fruit from trees that are pleasant to look at and good for food, we obtain the right to set our own standards of morality and immorality? Surely it is God Who sets that standard. Sin is disobedience of His commandments.
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It is a mandate of the People to set up what is Morality & Immorality by using our senses.
It is pertaining to physical life and not spiritual life.

It is not come from God.
Look at the different countries in this world in which they have the standard what is morality and immorality although they don't believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
 
Godsgood said:
It is a mandate of the People to set up what is Morality & Immorality by using our senses.
It is pertaining to physical life and not spiritual life.

It is not come from God.
Look at the different countries in this world in which they have the standard what is morality and immorality although they don't believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
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But how does that answer my post? I asked if you meant what you seemed to be saying, that by eating fruit from trees that are pleasant to look at and good for food, we obtain the right to set our own standards of morality and immorality.
 
DavidLamb said:
I agree that the trees which were described as pleasant to the sight and good for food were permitted by God. However, where in the bible do you find eating fruit linked to making our own laws, or implementing discipline? Where do we read in the bible that the more we eat the better we can get? Indeed, where are we told in the bible exactly which fruit trees these were that were in the Garden of Eden?
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If you are expecting something that it must be written and you must read it first before you gonna believe it.
You are after the written in letter only.
Perhaps I could ask you. When Jesus Christ was born day time or night time?
 
Godsgood said:
If you are expecting something that it must be written and you must read it first before you gonna believe it.
You are after the written in letter only.
Perhaps I could ask you. When Jesus Christ was born day time or night time?
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I am sorry, but I don't understand what you mean. Of course on an internet discussion forum like this, I expect our discussions to be written. And I do read your answers. We are not told in the bible whether Jesus was born during the day or at night. We are just told:

“3 So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city. 4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David, 5 to be registered with Mary, his betrothed wife, who was with child. 6 So it was, that while they were there, the days were completed for her to be delivered. 7 And she brought forth her firstborn Son, and wrapped Him in swaddling cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.” (Lu 2:3-7 NKJV)

But whatever has that got to do with the trees in the Garden of Eden?
 
DavidLamb said:
But how does that answer my post? I asked if you meant what you seemed to be saying, that by eating fruit from trees that are pleasant to look at and good for food, we obtain the right to set our own standards of morality and immorality.
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It is not literal physical eating the fruit.
It is just the meaning of eating that fruit.

Setting up our own standard in morality and immorality, we are free to do it.

There are other countries in this world that their standard in morality and immorality are different than the other countries.
Despite of that, since it is pertaining to physical life. It's just okay because we are free to eat the fruit of Tree #1.

I hope I understand your concern.
 
DavidLamb said:
I am sorry, but I don't understand what you mean. Of course on an internet discussion forum like this, I expect our discussions to be written. And I do read your answers. We are not told in the bible whether Jesus was born during the day or at night. We are just told:

“3 So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city. 4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David, 5 to be registered with Mary, his betrothed wife, who was with child. 6 So it was, that while they were there, the days were completed for her to be delivered. 7 And she brought forth her firstborn Son, and wrapped Him in swaddling cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.” (Lu 2:3-7 NKJV)

But whatever has that got to do with the trees in the Garden of Eden?
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It has to do for what is written and what is not because you want to read exactly what it is before you believe.

If you may answer. When Jesus was born is it day time or night time?

It is so important to know if it is day time or night time because God the Father has a spiritual message with that.
 
Godsgood said:
It has to do for what is written and what is not because you want to read exactly what it is before you believe.

If you may answer. When Jesus was born is it day time or night time?

It is so important to know if it is day time or night time because God the Father has a spiritual message with that.
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You have lost the plot. Written Scripture is the standard for faith and practice. Your misinterpretations of Scripture are not. Your alleged revelations from God certainly are not.
 
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Godsgood said:
It has to do for what is written and what is not because you want to read exactly what it is before you believe.

If you may answer. When Jesus was born is it day time or night time?

It is so important to know if it is day time or night time because God the Father has a spiritual message with that.
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As a Christian I believe in God's written word, the bible. That is where I want to see things written before I believe them.

Regarding whether Jesus was born in the day or in the night, if there was an important spiritual message from the answer to that, then God would have told us. As He didn't, anywhere in the bible, it cannot be important.
 
Doll said:
That's all you got?

Vacuous unbiblical supposition, closing with a juvenile barb?

I accept you're not qualified to discuss this.
Thanks.
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in turn, you don't seem to have any substantive objections, only unwarranted insults.

no one learned everything they ought to understand about Genesis 3 in church daycare.
 
Who hates Biblical truth being expounded and clarified?

Some spirits act as roadblocks.

It does not matter how irrational someone might sound.
As long as it stops the truth from being clarified.

"Test the spirits."
 
DavidLamb said:
As a Christian I believe in God's written word, the bible. That is where I want to see things written before I believe them.

Regarding whether Jesus was born in the day or in the night, if there was an important spiritual message from the answer to that, then God would have told us. As He didn't, anywhere in the bible, it cannot be important.
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If you are really believing in God then you will believe in him on what he said.
The chosen of God, in a letter of the words they did not receive the promise but in God's revelation they actually received it.
HEBREWS 11:13
13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

God said do not depend or take the words of God in letter in which you can read first before you believe. Or else it won't save you.
But taking the revelation of God to the letter of the words will give you eternal life.
2 CORINTHIANS 3:6
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
 
DavidLamb said:
As a Christian I believe in God's written word, the bible. That is where I want to see things written before I believe them.

Regarding whether Jesus was born in the day or in the night, if there was an important spiritual message from the answer to that, then God would have told us. As He didn't, anywhere in the bible, it cannot be important.
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It is very important to know if Jesus born in day time or in night time so that God will reveal the reason why he was born on that time and with that we know if we beg and ask the Mercy of God.

But neglecting and resist to know what time he was born then God the Father will reveal nothing. Then we will not beg and ask Mercy to him.
 
Godsgood said:
With God the Father description to the 3 Trees, let us analyze them one by one.

Tree #1: PLEASANT TO THE SIGHT AND GOOD FOR FOOD.
Pleasant to the sight, can use our senses. It is pertaining to Physical life that involves, Economics, Scientific & Politics.
By eating this fruit means we are allowed by God the Father to make our own Laws, Rules & Regulations. In order we can implement proper discipline. To make our living on earth Abundant, Joyful and Peaceful.
We are free to eat as many as we can to the fruit of Tree #1.
The more and often we eat the better we can get.
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Since we are free to eat the fruit of the Tree #1.
Then no one is liable by eating the fruit. Because there is no punishment awaits.
GENESIS 2:16
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
 
Godsgood said:
With God the Father description to the 3 Trees, let us analyze them one by one.

Tree #1: PLEASANT TO THE SIGHT AND GOOD FOR FOOD.
Pleasant to the sight, can use our senses. It is pertaining to Physical life that involves, Economics, Scientific & Politics.
By eating this fruit means we are allowed by God the Father to make our own Laws, Rules & Regulations. In order we can implement proper discipline. To make our living on earth Abundant, Joyful and Peaceful.
We are free to eat as many as we can to the fruit of Tree #1.
The more and often we eat the better we can get.
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Tree #2: TREE OF LIFE
It is also free to eat this fruit.
By eating this fruit Life can be achieved.

God is not referring to our physical life because we are physically alive already.
But since all of us, in our time we will all die.
Therefore By eating this fruit we will achieve the Eternal Life.

To achieve Eternal Life we must follow Jesus as he commanded to the young ruler in Luke 18:22
Jesus claimed in John 14:6 I am the truth.
Therefore: By following Jesus is following the truth.
By following the truth will achieve Eternal Life.

According to Lord Jesus there are 2 witnesses to the truth.
That is Jesus as the Son of the living God and God the Father.
If Jesus bear witness for himself it is not true (1st witness).
God the Father witness what Jesus witnesses is the truth (2nd witness)
JOHN 5:31-32
31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

By believing the 2 witnesses of the truth will achieve the Eternal Life.
 
Godsgood said:
Since we are free to eat the fruit of the Tree #1.
Then no one is liable by eating the fruit. Because there is no punishment awaits.
GENESIS 2:16
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
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Out of context! You skipped the important part that precludes consumption of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. That's only one example of your mistreatment of Scripture.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
It's a bit hard to understand. It seems to me, the knowledge of good and evil is something reserved for God alone. The knowledge of good and evil in human hands leads to all kinds of problems since it involves good and evil from a human perspective.
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It doesn’t matter what kind of fruit it was. God gave them a command not to eat of that tree, and they didn’t listen so sin and death entered the picture….
 
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Godsgood said:
It is a mandate of the People to set up what is Morality & Immorality by using our senses.
It is pertaining to physical life and not spiritual life.

It is not come from God.
Look at the different countries in this world in which they have the standard what is morality and immorality although they don't believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
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God committed ALL people under sin so this is why He became the ultimate sacrifice. There is one God and Savior who can save us— Jesus Christ!!
 
Godsgood said:
If you are really believing in God then you will believe in him on what he said.
The chosen of God, in a letter of the words they did not receive the promise but in God's revelation they actually received it.
HEBREWS 11:13
13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

God said do not depend or take the words of God in letter in which you can read first before you believe. Or else it won't save you.
But taking the revelation of God to the letter of the words will give you eternal life.
2 CORINTHIANS 3:6
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
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But you are quoting God's written word (Hebrews 11:13 and 2 Corinthians 3:6), which need to be read, either by oneself, or by somebody reading to you. The Bereans were commended for checking in the written word to make sure that the preaching they heard was true.
 
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