Are all the spiritual gifts still active today?

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GWH said:
Yes but having the gift means that such healing is not infrequent.
Jesus had the gift, Paul maybe, me not, and you?
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The gift also must align with his will, the gift of healing is not a sure thing because there are times when God does not require the healing to be done at times there are lessons needed to be learned or he has a purpose for the sickness or he has some other plan that involves that the healing is not done he is very mysterious that way so the gift is actually quite infrequent

Now do I have the gift itself? I don't know because I have not been in a situation where I felt called to do so before this event happened with my friend
I didn't speak a word forth or lay hands I just prayed and prayer is a very powerful thing so the issue is not whether or not one has the gift as even prayer can bring the same results the issue is do you believe he can do it?
 
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GWH said:
Hold on bro. You can attest that God granted your prayer request but not that He gave you the gift of healing.
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Did Blain say he had the gift of healing? Or did he say a person received healing and he believes as a result of his prayers. In fact, I don't see where he took any credit at all. Love how you try to put words in other peoples mouths. Such a gift. Feel free to show where Blain said he had the gift of healing in case I missed it. I could be wrong and might have missed it.
 
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Blain said:
The gift also must align with his will, the gift of healing is not a sure thing because there are times when God does not require the healing to be done at times there are lessons needed to be learned or he has a purpose for the sickness or he has some other plan that involves that the healing is not done he is very mysterious that way so the gift is actually quite infrequent

Now do I have the gift itself? I don't know because I have not been in a situation where I felt called to do so before this event happened with my friend
I didn't speak a word forth or lay hands I just prayed and prayer is a very powerful thing so the issue is not whether or not one has the gift as even prayer can bring the same results the issue is do you believe he can do it?
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Mr Groovy does not believe God heals anymore so don't let him twist what you actually did say.
 
GWH said:
Yes but having the gift means that such healing is not infrequent.
Jesus had the gift, Paul maybe, me not, and you?
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Really? Scripture please. But again, Blain did not say he had the gift of healing. He said he prayed and the person seems to be healed. That is what he attests to and nothing more.
 
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Lamar said:
God did supply manna to the Hebrews and then God did not supply manna to the Hebrews.

Yesterday God did, today He does not.

God is both dynamic and static.
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He also gave them quail. Where is your understanding that God is 'static'. Our entire world and all of creation depends on Him holding it all together by the power of His word. That's in the Bible. Yesterday I knew quite a bit but today I have come across something to add to what I know. Yesterday I knew alot; today I know more.
 
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GWH said:
I call you judging millions of Christians to be liars because they disagree with your views pride and borderline insanity.

If you won’t agree with the majority, at least disagree agreeably.

That is the prayer of Jesus.
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The majority of people wanted Jesus crucified at a certain point in time. A Roman did not want to have Him crucified. Sometimes when a person leans on the 'majority' the majority illustrate the error. God asks us to follow Him; not any majority. Christians who acknowledge that the Bible is God's word, containing what He deems most people should know, understand that.
 
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pinebeach said:
Mr Groovy does not believe God heals anymore so don't let him twist what you actually did say.
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Yes this is something he and I disagree on but I was hoping that my friends testimony would at least make people think about it. See whether it was the gift of healing or not the fact is my friend is living proof that he still heals people today regardless if the gift itself was involved it doesn't matter because the healing was done and that should speak for itself
 
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TrustandObey said:
Pentecostalism causes people to see the miraculous under rock, while making them blind to the foolishness of their own line of reasoning.
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I am not Pentecostal. I have seen what is considered 'miraculous'. I did not see it under a rock. I have found worms and such under rocks though. :unsure:
 
Blain said:
Yes this is something he and I disagree on but I was hoping that my friends testimony would at least make people think about it. See whether it was the gift of healing or not the fact is my friend is living proof that he still heals people today regardless if the gift itself was involved it doesn't matter because the healing was done and that should speak for itself
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Absolutely. I know I do not have the gift of healing but I do know what God has given to me. I both have experienced them and they have been attested to by others. The thing is that the 'gifts' are the norm according to the NT and God promises to give such gifts in the OT and makes good on that promise to those who believe. The rudimentary beliefs are salvation and understanding it; some people never go on and seem to enjoy badmouthing those who do go on.

Blain said:
Yes this is something he and I disagree on
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You have quite a bit of company in that regard.
 
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Edward429451 said:
HAte to inform you but the Bible does cover current events. Can you not see them in the OT?

Our God is the God that tells the end from the beginning. Matthew 24 sounds just like the news of what's happening today.
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So what current event has the Bible covered today?
 
pinebeach said:
He also gave them quail. Where is your understanding that God is 'static'. Our entire world and all of creation depends on Him holding it all together by the power of His word. That's in the Bible. Yesterday I knew quite a bit but today I have come across something to add to what I know. Yesterday I knew alot; today I know more.
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I have no earthly idea what you are attempting to say.
 
pinebeach said:
Absolutely. I know I do not have the gift of healing but I do know what God has given to me. I both have experienced them and they have been attested to by others. The thing is that the 'gifts' are the norm according to the NT and God promises to give such gifts in the OT and makes good on that promise to those who believe. The rudimentary beliefs are salvation and understanding it; some people never go on and seem to enjoy badmouthing those who do go on.



You have quite a bit of company in that regard.
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Salvation and the understanding of it is the first stage most Christians are on this level at least but to go beyond that level to see the world of God and to see how alive and real he really is this is where many do not go because they are still on the first stage yes they have understanding but to see the move of God to see the realm that faith can take you is an entirely different level of faith

It is likewise how I view the bible as being the first stage once you have an understanding of it and you can grasp the written word then you move on to the living word Jesus himself

This is when he begins actually appearing to you and where you study under him directly this is when he leads you into the unknown the deeper hidden things of God and that journey is a deep and amazing one
 
Blain said:
Salvation and the understanding of it is the first stage most Christians are on this level at least but to go beyond that level to see the world of God and to see how alive and real he really is this is where many do not go because they are still on the first stage yes they have understanding but to see the move of God to see the realm that faith can take you is an entirely different level of faith

It is likewise how I view the bible as being the first stage once you have an understanding of it and you can grasp the written word then you move on to the living word Jesus himself

This is when he begins actually appearing to you and where you study under him directly this is when he leads you into the unknown the deeper hidden things of God and that journey is a deep and amazing one
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We each have the relationship with God that we desire. God is always willing and the fault, if there is one, lies with us.
 
Lamar said:
I have no earthly idea what you are attempting to say.
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See I knew it, you don't read your bible. The Hebrews were wandering in the desert for 40 years after looting Egypt (LOL) and God was letting manna fall in the desert so they could eat. So they started complaining to Moses and God that they want some meat! So God overrun them with quails and they had meat to eat, until they got sick of it and wanted Manna Again!
 
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Blain said:
The gift also must align with his will, the gift of healing is not a sure thing because there are times when God does not require the healing to be done at times there are lessons needed to be learned or he has a purpose for the sickness or he has some other plan that involves that the healing is not done he is very mysterious that way so the gift is actually quite infrequent

Now do I have the gift itself? I don't know because I have not been in a situation where I felt called to do so before this event happened with my friend
I didn't speak a word forth or lay hands I just prayed and prayer is a very powerful thing so the issue is not whether or not one has the gift as even prayer can bring the same results the issue is do you believe he can do it?
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Well, until you are confident that you have the gift of miraculous healing it is unwise to claim such.
Yes, believing God can heal is the main issue, but some folks make a big deal about having the gift.
With Jesus, healing was frequent, with Paul it was occasional, with me not at all, and with you once?
 
GWH said:
Well, until you are confident that you have the gift of miraculous healing it is unwise to claim such.
Yes, believing God can heal is the main issue, but some folks make a big deal about having the gift.
With Jesus, healing was frequent, with Paul it was occasional, with me not at all, and with you once?
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He never said he had the gift of healing. Actually the main issue is the massive deflection you seem to have developed against the truth. Why do you make a big deal of trying to dismiss what anyone has to say that has a positive reflection/attitude to the scripture you just simply do not believe? Rhetorical question.
 
GWH said:
Well, until you are confident that you have the gift of miraculous healing it is unwise to claim such.
Yes, believing God can heal is the main issue, but some folks make a big deal about having the gift.
With Jesus, healing was frequent, with Paul it was occasional, with me not at all, and with you once?
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Yes and I am not claiming to have the gift but I do always tell Good I am here and II am willing. For me I just want to be whatever he needs at any time so I think when I prayed he just used my willingness just because it happened once does not mean I have the gift it just means I was willing

However just this one time is enough to solidify my belief that the gifts and healing is still for today, you only need to see it once to have enough evidence of it. But on the issue of people going overboard with ther gift the only people I have seen with that are those preachers on t.v. who have this massive following and claim the git when really behind the scenes it is staged and actually one man got caught because his wife told on him for it.
 
Blain said:
Yes and I am not claiming to have the gift but I do always tell Good I am here and II am willing. For me I just want to be whatever he needs at any time so I think when I prayed he just used my willingness just because it happened once does not mean I have the gift it just means I was willing

However just this one time is enough to solidify my belief that the gifts and healing is still for today, you only need to see it once to have enough evidence of it. But on the issue of people going overboard with ther gift the only people I have seen with that are those preachers on t.v. who have this massive following and claim the git when really behind the scenes it is staged and actually one man got caught because his wife told on him for it.
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Well, you have a lower bar for believing the gift of healing is still for today than I do,
because I am aware of many folks who have been fooled by fake faith-healers through the years,
so I point you to the warning of Jesus in Matthew 24:4-24.
 
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