Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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It's bogus unless Peter alone is the church because that's how the church is formed. Maybe we should ask is Peter the only member of the church.
Oh just in case you answered before you've had chance to understand something, scriptures demonstrates which can only be seen by a very in depth study of Paul's writings, that there is a difference between a heart of stone and a hardened heart. @reneweddaybyday
So the question I'm asking is not whether mankind is born with hardened heart. But a heart of stone
Have you ever been shown this.
So the question I'm asking is not whether mankind is born with hardened heart. But a heart of stone
Have you ever been shown this.
It is not vain/works/or self exalting to recognize you are a sinner and in need of a SAVOIR.
You have never realized you are a sinner in need of a Savior?.......Careful, that would be self-exalting if you answer yes.
Still, Not one verse......"Mankind cannot believe the Gospel that He sent to them."
Going through it doesn't make your explanation correct. Saying that 1 Corinthians 2:14 doesn't apply to the gospel is ridiculous by the verse itself. How can any scripture not be the things of the Spirit of God since He is the author of scripture? And since every person is natural until converted, and conversion requires both the Spirit of God and the word of God, how is the word of God not ever seen as foolishness to someone who is unsaved?
Your explanation that the gospel isn't included in the things of the Spirit of God doesn't hold water.
That's exactly what 1 Corinthians 2:14 teaches. That's why I posed the questions. Unless you are saying a verse of scripture written by the Spirit of God isn't included in the things of the Spirit of God. Is that what you are saying?
But can that be realized/recognized/acknowledged apart from God's grace?
Jesus actually did say that, and quite a few other things the FWers reject outright.Wow! Did Jesus really say that? How come he didn't preach the objective and impersonal "power of the gospel" instead? I wonder why He waxed so personally, subjectively and existentially?
When they are not busy contradicting, denying and/or rewriting them, that is.
Like telling us only atheists are slaves to sin because only they choose to sin.
How or where they come up with such garbage, gosh, should I ask???
Galatians 5 v 1; Romans 10 v 10a; Romans 6 v 17-18; Colossians 2 v 20 It was for freedom that Christ set us free. Therefore, stand firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery. With the heart man believes, resulting in righteousness. Though you used to be slaves to sin, you have been set free from sin and become slaves to righteousness. You have died with Christ to the spiritual forces of the world.
Did Christ die for all? I know your answer.
So, you start with a false premise. You are spitting dust from falling flat on your face from the starting gates.
Absolutely not. And that's been gone over and over.
The Holy Spirit will convict the WORLD......GRACE.
Man's heart of stone NEEDS to be replaced.
So much for him being born with everything he needs.
Many FWers hate hate hate 1 Cor 2:14. That is why they rewrite it. They NEED it to fit their per-programmed
way of thinking, since otherwise their whole self-exalting theology falls apart. They simply cannot have that.
The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. The world does not recognize Him. No one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him. The one who loves God is known by God. If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The mind that is set on the flesh is hostile toward God; it does not submit to God's law, nor can it. Whoever is not from God does not listen to us.
"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him." John 6 verse 44 The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2 verse 14 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8 verse 7-8
Bitterness does not become you.Jesus actually did say that, and quite a few other things the FWers reject outright.
When they are not busy contradicting, denying and/or rewriting them, that is.
Like telling us only atheists are slaves to sin because only they choose to sin.
How or where they come up with such garbage, gosh, should I ask???
Galatians 5 v 1; Romans 10 v 10a; Romans 6 v 17-18; Colossians 2 v 20 It was for freedom that Christ set us free. Therefore, stand firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery. With the heart man believes, resulting in righteousness. Though you used to be slaves to sin, you have been set free from sin and become slaves to righteousness. You have died with Christ to the spiritual forces of the world.
You believe in the Lord Jesus Christ , correct?........Careful with your answer.Many FWers hate hate hate 1 Cor 2:14. That is why they rewrite it. They NEED it to fit their per-programmed
way of thinking, since otherwise their whole self-exalting theology falls apart. They simply cannot have that.
The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. The world does not recognize Him. No one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him. The one who loves God is known by God. If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The mind that is set on the flesh is hostile toward God; it does not submit to God's law, nor can it. Whoever is not from God does not listen to us.
Please answer the question: are there any scriptures that are not the things of the Spirit.
Also, is there any spiritual truth that is not included in the things of the Spirit?
agreed but there's also another deeper reason why mankind is born with a heart of stone, and not a hardened heart.
If we understand the scripture that by nature mankind nature is born with a nature that is disobedient and a nature that can not obey, we can also understand we are born children of God wrath. And that mankind is born under judgement with a stone of heart. But the stone of heart is not severe as a hardened heart.
It was are very nature that was judged in the garden,
But there more to it a lot more. To it from what I've learned in Paul's writings.
Hearts of stone sound pretty hard to me.
Of course Adam was made of the dust of the earth.
Same as what comprises stones.
The natural man.
James 1 v 14-15; 1 John 2 v 16 Each one is tempted when by his own evil desires he is lured away and enticed. Then after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death. For all that is in the world- the desires of the flesh, the desires of the eyes, and the pride of life- is not from the Father but from the world. .
The world cannot receive the spirit of truth. I guess the k man is blind to that.
He must be blind to Romans 8:7 as well.
But these folks think it logical for someone to choose to believe what they hear as foolishness.
Of course we know they believe foolishness, but they don't think it so.
Though they believe much that directly contradicts what the Bible explicitly articulates.
They have put their confidence in the flesh of man.
Flesh serves the law of sin. For the flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are opposed to each other. Nothing good lives in my flesh. Who can say, “I have kept my heart pure; I am clean and without sin”? Who can bring what is pure from the impure? No one! The flesh brings forth fruit unto death. Romans 7 v 25, Galatians 5 v 17, Romans 7 v 18, Proverbs 20 v 9, Job 14 v 4, Romans 7 v 5 (Romans 8 v 13 and James 1 v 15)