Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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lrs68 said:
You can only bear false witness if every Reformed Believer attempts to share the Gospel to strangers and the lost. And we know that isn't even remotely close to the case.
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Do you think God is happy with you bearing false witness against your neighbor? Why must you continue to spread lies that are patently untrue?
 
NightTwister said:
Do you think God is happy with you bearing false witness against your neighbor? Why must you continue to spread lies that are patently untrue?
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Do you live under a rock?
You clearly don't know the Reformed people I know who simply believes that God will lead those to Him if He has chosen them.
 
lrs68 said:
You can only bear false witness if every Reformed Believer attempts to share the Gospel to strangers and the lost. And we know that isn't even remotely close to the case.
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There's no point in singling out people as reformed

When Christianity has been reformed for everyone.
 
Jordon said:
There's no point in singling out people as reformed

When Christianity has been reformed for everyone.
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I suppose this is correct. I hated to go to specific Protestant Churches but I guess that's the best way to do it from now on.
 
LifelongLearner said:
Many have probably realised i don't think we can exercise free will, even think it's impossible for us to. Won't explain why i think it's an impossiblility for us yet, think it's useful for some to express why they think it exists first.

I have no doubt we have and can make choices throughout life, however, think our options are far more restricted than most realise. What do you think?
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We have been given free will by God .. free to love Him or reject Him. Both decisions carry consequences.
 
lrs68 said:
Do you live under a rock?
You clearly don't know the Reformed people I know who simply believes that God will lead those to Him if He has chosen them.
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Well, since I am one I know them pretty well. Evangelism started out with the Reformed. The Great Awakenings were started by reformers. You have no understanding of reformers, you just parrot the things you hear, or paint every reformed person with the brush of a hyper-calvinist you must know.
 
lrs68 said:
I suppose this is correct. I hated to go to specific Protestant Churches but I guess that's the best way to do it from now on.
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well if you feel it's correct should you now not go and retract your statement, and apologise to the person you aimed it at, as you also used this analysis to put down his character with.
 
cv5 said:
https://christianchat.com/threads/can-we-really-exercise-free-will.218061/post-5568419
"I do believe in election. Clearly taught in the Bible."

You preach what you believe? I think not.
In fact I doubt any determinists actually come out of the closet and preach what they SAY they actually believe.

And I would like to know: what determinist can PROVE that Paul peached the message noted in green below.
A message CONFIRMED to be an accurate assessment of the super-determinist belief system by @rogerg , yourself and others of your ilk.

-pre-selected/elected before birth? Check

-pre-selected/elected sovereignly by God with zero inputs from anybody? Check.

-this pre-selection/election totally uncontrolled as far as the human beings that are the winners and losers are concerned? Check.
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When the "reformed" have the logical, undeniable conclusion of their doctrine pointed out to them and have it presented in basic clear language...

the typical response is >>>> you are lying and misrepresenting their beliefs or the person does not understand the doctrine.

It is textbook behavior.
 
Cameron143 said:
I'm particularly concerned with the source of faith. What is the genesis of faith?
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Before Jesus arrived Faith in God came by knowledge, experience, the Scrolls and more specifically what Moses wrote. But ultimately Faith in God came through the words of Adam and Eve and their children.
 
Cameron143 said:
I'm particularly concerned with the source of faith. What is the genesis of faith?
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Are you still not getting an answer to this very simple question? Do they not know the Scriptures?
Or do they just don't want to answer because it will show their beliefs to be false?
 
HeIsHere said:
When the "reformed" have the logical, undeniable conclusion of their doctrine pointed out to them and have it presented in basic clear language...

the typical response is >>>> you are lying and misrepresenting their beliefs or the person does not understand the doctrine.

It is textbook behavior.
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Caught red handed. Again.
 
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