I am not going to restate what has been posted already but good look at all the history and hard facts of Zionism over the 200 years and how evil it is...but just because Zionism is evil doesn't mean Hamas is right...where did you get that conclusions? If you could also explain the entire Bible where G-d and Jesus make it clear that we are not like other nations, we don't look to Egypt/USA for men power, G-d doesn't want the strength of horses, He expects His chosen people to pray and rely on Him and then G-d will do the rest, just as He did many times (I.e. the Book of Esther, Chanukah, 6 day War, etc.). G-d's people don't act like the Nations. G-d's people don't follow the way of the world.
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I am not going to restate what has been posted already but good look at all the history and hard facts of Zionism over the 200 years and how evil it is...but just because Zionism is evil doesn't mean Hamas is right...where did you get that conclusions? If you could also explain the entire Bible where G-d and Jesus make it clear that we are not like other nations, we don't look to Egypt/USA for men power, G-d doesn't want the strength of horses, He expects His chosen people to pray and rely on Him and then G-d will do the rest, just as He did many times (I.e. the Book of Esther, Chanukah, 6 day War, etc.). G-d's people don't act like the Nations. G-d's people don't follow the way of the world.
G-d in 1948 wanted a bunch of Atheists who DENY G-D from Ben Gurion & Hertzl may there names be erased to fulfill prophecy?
I am asking nicely. Do you know who these "leaders" are and what they said?
- The made deals with Hitler called "The Transfer Agreement" to kill Jews to fund the Land
- Nazi's and Zionist minted coin during 1933 that clearly proves this
- I could name a slew of quotes from the Zionist mouths themselves..."They wanted to build STATE IN UGANDA! EVEN TEXAS WAS AN IDEA!!!"
- They hated Jews so much that they have endless quotes to proof that
- They built the State because they could no longer accept the lengthy exile that G-d specifically told the Jewish people to hang out and not force (Ketubot 110b) and if they did break this oath, consequences would be like Bar Kochba in the 150's
- They wanted to kill Jews
- They are so anti-religious that all the Religious Jews are completely against them
- Jews are well aware that the Zionist themselves funded Hamas in the 1970/1980 to go against Arufat (or whatever his name is)
- Jews are clearly showing online that a "6 HOUR WAIT FOR HELP" on Oct 7th clearly shows that the IDF or Gov't set this up to promote this Genocide!
... I am sorry but there are so many facts on this matter and I live in Israel where half of the Nation is Against it's own government and this genocide...
What are you saying??? or can you be humble and admit your wrong...?
You should tell God He's wrong! Tell Him He has to stop protecting them! He's got the wrong people! Lol!
What is really NOT funny is the notion God is protecting a country which is willfully, knowingly killing children.
And equally NOT funny is how you put God in the banking and arms business.
Been over this many times for many years I might add on various threads, I think you do not realize how outside of spiritual reality they live, it is pointless, God is not a liar, but those with this delusion cannot see this truth.
It will take an act of deliverance, rest assured.
You are correct. The Jews use to PRIDE themselves on being able to trace their ancestry all the way back to Abraham. But when Rome destroyed their temple in AD 70, all records and genealogies were destroyed. There is not a Jew today who can prove he is a descendant of Abraham. Not by genealogies or ancestry.
Another historical fact which cannot be denied but people still do to support a false narrative.
Are you sure of that? No family records. Nothing written down. How do you know what Rome did or didnt destroy? What did or dint get taken away before the destruction. You never know Rome might have the ark in its basement. When it comes to lost artifacts and records you jist dont know.
Yep, that national israel over there is just another gentile country, and maybe God has some elect over there as He does in other counties.
Even if there are any full blooded jews over there that can trace back to Abraham, it means nothing for salvation, and its still another gentile country.
I think I've stated before I dont give 2 piles about genealogies. God allows who is a decendet of Abraham and who isint. What tribe they did or didnt come from.
I told on this thread a while back about my grandpa. He was a pure jew if that's the right term. Now when he married my grandma also a jew. He was kicked out of the church and had to pay several thousands of dollars. In 1945 that's like half a mil today. All because my grandma was from an untraceable bloodline. He being traceable was expected to marry another woman who was as well. Now I dont know how far back they do or do not still have records. But its obvious they have some kind of clue.
I told on this thread a while back about my grandpa. He was a pure jew if that's the right term. Now when he married my grandma also a jew. He was kicked out of the church and had to pay several thousands of dollars. In 1945 that's like half a mil today. All because my grandma was from an untraceable bloodline. He being traceable was expected to marry another woman who was as well. Now I dont know how far back they do or do not still have records. But its obvious they have some kind of clue.
Your right though isreal the people is still just another people under the church age covenant. Isreal the land will be part of the end times and so that chunk of land is important in God's plan. I do belive when he comes through the clouds isreal will have only cristian jews and those who received the mark. If that's what you mean. What role the jews play after his return I do not know.
How about we follow scripture and agree they have no role that is different than anyone else.
See my signature for reference.
How about we follow scripture and agree they have no role that is different than anyone else.
See my signature for reference.
Once they are grafted back in think they will have differnt roles then us. During this church age they are the same.
In the Millennial age, King Jesus will reign from Jerusalem. Do you think the official world language may be Modern Hebrew? That would be interesting!
I am sure that is in scripture somewhere.
It's like an addiction. Scripture makes clear there are no longer distinctions, but they just can't let go of it.
Be grafted in has nothing to do with a plot of land. Like when God started grating in Gentiles per Rom 11:17-19
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
That doesnt mean these Gentiles moved over to israel lol. Its a spiritual matter, the grafting in is being given Faith in Christ, no matter where the Gentile person lived, they were grafted in by Faith. And iff any natural jew believes in Christ they will be grafted in, even if they live in chicago.
Yes seems so, had not stopped to think of it in those terms >>>"addiction"
.... but yes I see it, when they cannot let go of something in spite of all the evidence to the contrary and no evidence to support it, there must be some type of psychological/emotional addiction.
No they dont follow the ways of the world. It seems that the world wants Israel to be wiped off the map.
What's wrong with bringing in alliances that promote peace which is the same objective Israel has?
To trash talk about your own is so obvious as to your agenda.
This goes far back further than Oct 7th it goes back to all the places where they were scattered. Persecution followed them every where. Just because they were jews. A reminder that there is a God. A reminder that this God has chosen a people. Let's put it to the test let's see how many we can kill, starve, persecute, brow beat to give up on there identity .
As a person, as a people, as a nation they have and will prevail. Satan and his seed have and will fail.
God today is dealing with a nation. A nation that has been exiled for over 2000 yrs. Are you a refugee? Did you go through any of what I mentioned. You say your live in Israel but yet trash talk it. We here in the states have the same thing with going on. Don't like it? Move.
Why are you there? Because your a jew? Don't let that stop you move. Find a place that supports your beliefs.
Or you can stay right there and build your wall of division and negatively and watch it be crumbled to nothing. Your choice.
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