"but you seem to only focus on the evil ..
...evil boogeyman you conjure up?"
A bizarre unsavoury obsession?
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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...evil boogeyman you conjure up?"
A bizarre unsavoury obsession?
yep choose life because he didnt want you to choose death.
He didn't want you to fall into his reflection.
There's no point in making your assertions of human free will being a reality based on this one passage.
Define free will from the bible.
The passage you state doesn't mention you have free will.
It just mentions you have a choice.
And every other passage that you have brought up here doesn't mention you have free will.
And neither any other passage that anyone else had mentioned.
Say they have free will.
Out of all the translation out of there in the world theres one that mentions you have free will.
Guess what it's in the simplified amplified version I wonder why.
It's showing ultimately all humanity has multiple options to choose from but it's their choice. If God let's you choose death you did it because you are free to do it. The same is with choosing life.
A simple concept anyone other than a super-determinist cannot fail to comprehend.
From God in the flesh Himself:
If anyone's will is to do God's will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own authority.
Jesus shows we have a choice if we want to do God's Will. That equals free will because according to Jesus we only do this if we make it our own will to do it.
It's been truly over exhausted this thread.
All these passages of choose where once again it doesn't state you have free will, could be multiple times the lord is helping an individual to choose, by enabling his heart. Over multiple times in a period of time he was for-knowing a person.
The way I feel right now I may as well be banging my head against a brick wall.
But no matter, I'll remain patient in sharing my faith.
The fact that a person is even being asked to choose is something that would not have come upon your own free will if where free.
Why people refuse to see it's his life and his will I have no idea.
Surrender your heart to God.
Accept that the life you have in you is his and that your soul or other souls are lost, in need of saving which can't be done by there own will.
Why so much emphasis is put on the unsaved on how they can be saved is bordering on insanity as it's pointing towards how they can save themselves.
It's being made way to complicated.
All these passages of choose where once again it doesn't state you have free will, could be multiple times the lord is helping an individual to choose, by enabling his heart. Over multiple times in a period of time he was for-knowing a person.
The way I feel right now I may as well be banging my head against a brick wall.
But no matter, I'll remain patient in sharing my faith.
The fact that a person is even being asked to choose is something that would not have come upon your own free will if where free.
Why people refuse to see it's his life and his will I have no idea.
Surrender your heart to God.
Accept that the life you have in you is his and that your soul or other souls are lost, in need of saving which can't be done by there own will.
Why so much emphasis is put on the unsaved on how they can be saved is bordering on insanity as it's pointing towards how they can save themselves.
It's being made way to complicated.
And everywhere in between.
So now that you have been informed, continued ignorance can only be of the...."willful" variety.
[Gen 2:16 KJV] 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
[Rev 21:6 KJV] 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
[Rev 22:17 KJV] 17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
God did make us robots to do and say loving things to impress Him. He created us to be part of this amazing web of life and share life everlasting with Him in heaven. We are His living children, and He receives our love and loyalty to Him if it comes from a sincere heart.
You refuse to deal with the Scriptures given, so there is no point continuing, especially since you are stuck on
logical fallacies. You have been taken captive by a vain self-exalting philosophy. And just a heads' up, yes,
everyone is born with a sinful nature and is a sinner. Scripture says so. There are none righteous, no, not one!
Not sure why I am telling you, though. Just more for you to pretend is not there. It's a general problem with heretics.
“Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone. Mark ch. 10 verse 18 and Luke ch. 18 verse 19 “There is only One who is good.” Matthew ch. 19 verse 17b. There is no one who does good. fr Psalm ch. 14. There is no one righteous, not even one. Romans ch. 3 verse 10. They are corrupt; their ways are vile. There is no one who does good. All have turned away, they have together become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one. fr Psalm ch. 53 verses 1-3. Surely there is no righteous man on earth who does good and never sins. Ecclesiastes ch. 7 verse 20. For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
sir once again it's talking about his will, but not yours.
In fact sir every choice your giving is from his will.
That has come upon you in the first place
Understand this sir, the Father broke through the darkness and entered into your heart without your permission to give you that choice in the first place, would that happen if your will was free sir
Why sir ?
It's his life sir
His will sir
Not your will sir
Not your life sir
His life that is stolen.
His life he wants back that has been bought for a price sir.
some have tried and each definition provided is an inaccurate depiction.
then the term should no longer be used ... but that won't happen ... and I'm not saying you have used the term ...Jordon said:
yeah ... I feel your pain ... gotta be fitted with the whole armor of God if/when you post here ... fellow believers are torn down instead of being built up, ... these things ought not so to be ...Jordon said:
right.Jordon said:
talk to you soon ...Jordon said:
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