Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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hmm looks like you can't take a joke either,

You wouldn't be judging me would you lol.

Maybe you should answer the question, you stated there was a reformed mob here, obviously your refering to people quoting in this thread, so who where you refering to ?


I know about many reformed groups Which one are you refering to
Joke?

You are missing a lot of what has gone on here.
Jump out of the water and back peddle to see what some here have said in the past.
 
I wonder if people realize probably every denomination in Christianity has been reformed along the way.

God will take care of everything he needs to.

He won't let his sheep get lost, I can't say what he will do or how he choose to relate with people, he will treat every individual case by case on personal level, I believe that because I know That God does and always will have private relationship with people.


The more I read this thread the more I'm understanding that people are in need of guidance, but that will come from the spirit also.
 
ah the famous old Judge not or be Judged scripture quite often used when someone can't take rebuttal,

I could just put my ramhead on and billy goat him, but I would have to judge which place to ram him.

But don't blame me for that, it not my fault I'm a goat I was born that way.

I see, so when you ram people it's just your personality but when others are blunt in how they speak it is their bad behaviour. I understand perfectly where you are coming from now. ;)

hmm looks like you can't take a joke either,

You wouldn't be judging me would you lol.

Maybe you should answer the question, you stated there was a reformed mob here, obviously your refering to people quoting in this thread, so who where you refering to ?


I know about many reformed groups Which one are you refering to

I don't consider your ignorance a joke.

have a nice day. :)
 
You don't know who you are?
get yourself some of these ...


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... then re-read what I submitted.




Rufus said:
Above your pay grade to figure out a label that you could comfortably apply to yourself?
I am quite comfortable defining myself using the same words God reveals in Scripture.




Rufus said:
I am a free moral agent, which is different than a "freewiller". I make all kinds of choices but I know that I'm not autonomous nor do I exist independently of God. Nor can I make moral/spiritual choices that are contrary to my sinful nature, any more than God can. God created me to love him, serve him, glorify him and to rely upon him for all things.
He also instructs His children to imitate Him ...

Ephesians 5:1-2 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children; And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

ever hear of tater tots ? that's the believer ... we're tater tots ... hah!!!


having said that ... you have yet to define "FWer" ... still waiting ...

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It speaks to this whole error we see being repeatedly "voiced" in here, that nothing in Scripture
attests to man's inability
Why can't you hear this? Man is blind, unable, deaf, natural. You have mankind WIRED.......But you don't see God.

God did something about all of our failures and neglect. He came to us.

God did something about it. Every time you read a scripture about man and the mess he is.......God did something about it.

He sent His Son to the WORLD/ALL and revealed Himself. The veil is torn.
 
So does it really matter if we then say the spiritualy dead are incapable of hearing or believing.
Prove me otherwise. You are in the reformed category according to me.

Not ONE verse says," You are incapable of hearing or believing the Gospel."
 
Why did God permit for the Fall of Man to happen?
To reveal His Grace and Mercy. To resolve the Angelic conflict.

Every time a person WILLINGLY believes in the Lord Jesus Christ.....They put another nail in Satan's coffin.

And the calvies/reformed/tulip ilk are trying to pull the nails OUT of Satans coffin.
 
If I was Reformed wouldn't the correct answer be so God could send 90% of them to a burning eternal Hell?

Not quite..

God needed to teach the angels what it was that Satan desired in his heart towards the Most High.

How could God show what their thoughts were desiring when no murders had taken place?
Can not judge and condemn when the wrong doer hasn't a clue about.

God could not create man capable of murdering, nor lying, nor cheating.
That would have made God into authoring sin in his creation!

No need to do so.
God simply allowed Satan to set his own trap.

For, when man fell?
The trap was set!

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Not quite..

God needed to teach the angels what it was that Satan desired in his heart towards the Most High.

How could God show what their thoughts were desiring when no murders had taken place?

God could not create man capable of murdering, nor lying, nor cheating.
That would have made God into authoring sin in his creation!

No need to do so.
God simply allowed Satan to set his own trap.

For, when man fell?
The trap was set!

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Every accusation Satan has against man........Is transference arrogance. He did it himself. So satan is sentencing HIMSELF.
 
So when Saul was commanded to annihilate the Amalekites, that was a missionary journey? Who knew?
Oh.......I am sure that you don't know Scriptural reasons for that incident either.
But I am even more sure that you will conjure up a false doctrine out of your ignorance in the matter.

So I had better quench this incendiary situation immediately by directing you to read these chapters before things spiral out-of-control even further.

Exodus 17:8-16
Deuteronomy 25:17-18-19.
 
Not quite..

God needed to teach the angels what it was that Satan desired in his heart towards the Most High.

How could God show what their thoughts were desiring when no murders had taken place?
Can not judge and condemn when the wrong doer hasn't a clue about.

God could not create man capable of murdering, nor lying, nor cheating.
That would have made God into authoring sin in his creation!

No need to do so.
God simply allowed Satan to set his own trap.

For, when man fell?
The trap was set!

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I thought this question was keeping up to the Reformed Idealism. But very true as you have said.
 
I see, so when you ram people it's just your personality but when others are blunt in how they speak it is their bad behaviour. I understand perfectly where you are coming from now. ;)



I don't consider your ignorance a joke.

have a nice day. :)
nope my real name Gordon ramsbottom, I've been called billy the goat since I was a kid, I've had lots of jokes made about my name and it's stuck with me, kind of like tied into my DNA.

Besides I like goats.

Petty insults don't wind me up,

You should try learning some manners in how to hold a pleasant conversation,

Ignorance ?

I asked you a question, are you to scared to say who you where refering to when you said there was reformed mob at work here ?

Where not just people you can label and categorize in to a box, because are view points on scripture don't like up with yours you know.

You've got a cheek to call me ignorant. If the shoe fits ware it is what I'm seeing from yourself.

Your friend who you feel compelled to stand up for was in the wrong not me. And I shouldn't be made to look bad for his mistakes.

You should own up your own conduct before.you try to find fault in me.

Honestly i can't believe I'm having this discussion with Christians.

I told you my stance on my beliefs, and you want more information from me, to prove to you I'm not this reformed mob person, can you even contemplate how ridiculous that sounds ?
Even if I was was to share any more beliefs with you, you would just no doubt start another argument.

No thanks pal I'm out