Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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They love to lie. There is a long history of it...
They have no other defense against the many Scripture verses that prove them wrong.
You maybe would not believe some of the things that have been said as they flail about.
Really they just wish to silence me.
From 2 Timothy 1 verses 8b-9 Join with me in suffering for the gospel, by the power of God. He has saved us and called us to a holy life - not because of anything we have done but because of His own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time.
I think you would appreciate this, the church down the street from my home, Emmanuel Reformed Church, had on its sign this morning,
Jesus loves us
If I had not been driving I would have taken a picture.
they should have finished it with....
And NOT you!!!
None are trying to silence you.They love to lie. There is a long history of it...
They have no other defense against the many Scripture verses that prove them wrong.
You maybe would not believe some of the things that have been said as they flail about.
Really they just wish to silence me.
From 2 Timothy 1 verses 8b-9 Join with me in suffering for the gospel, by the power of God. He has saved us and called us to a holy life - not because of anything we have done but because of His own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time.
You have failed to show that man cannot believe His Gospel to be saved. And you completely overlook the fact that God came after mankind with MUCH MORE Grace. Mankind wouldn't come to Him so He came to mankind.
Equal privilege and equal opportunity for ALL.
Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved, you and your household....(That goes for ALL.)
And that is how deceptive reformed theology is.I think you would appreciate this, the church down the street from my home, Emmanuel Reformed Church, had on its sign this morning,
Jesus loves us
If I had not been driving I would have taken a picture.
they should have finished it with....
And NOT you!!!
As an unbeliever driving down the road, or a believer......One would include him/her self in the "US." And continue driving along.
But KNOWING what reformed theology teaches that sign is sickening.......Jesus loves the special Sovereign elect...."us" and not you.
To those who have believed.
Believed > then saved.
To those who have believed.
Believed > then saved.
We are discussing soteroiology.
John 5:40
“yet you refuse to COME TO ME TO HAVE LIFE.”
The opposite must equally be true
Come to me to have life.
It is clear that the gift of regeneration comes after or subsequent to belief.
Seeks to undermine what is clearly stated in scripture with the theory that "regeneration precedes faith" by reading into verses or by using verses that are not even about soteriology.
Knowledge of God and Who He is is revealed spiritually, which you deny as a necessity in coming to know Him.
It is one of those Biblical truths you reject, contradict, and outright deny.
Then you advance further in your rejection of truth to mock those who affirm that God keeps His promises.
And go further yet, by trying to shame them.
This is what being a Christian means to you.
If one were to believe you are a Christian, that is.
In your theology you have the God hater who cannot comprehend the spiritual truths he opposes deciding to believe them.
Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?
Matt 7:3
Matthew 11 verse 27 ~ All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him.
Another truth in the long list of truths rejected, contradicted, and outright denied by many free willers.
Understood.....I would preferably prefer you quit acting as if your above all
If my thinking irritates you?
It is nothing new to me.
Enjoy your allotted time on this earth.
Don't let someone like me bother you.
James 1:18
“He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all He created.”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
(quite incorrectly) teaches the word of truth will certainly be rejected by the unregenerate.
Therefore, how can the apostle say that the word may be the means of new birth?
Birth must precede the word if is true, and that is not what the text clearly indicates.
Regeneration preceding belief/faith is not found in scripture, the correct order, belief then regenerated, is clearly laid out over and over again.
So obviously a person can choose to respond to the power and truth of the Gospel message and not only that it is the very condition which God sets to receive the gift
"I" is out, therefore the rest of is unnecessary and equally untrue, especially the major big lie that Christ Jesus did not take on the sins of the whole world/all /every single person.
“He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all He created.”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
(quite incorrectly) teaches the word of truth will certainly be rejected by the unregenerate.Therefore, how can the apostle say that the word may be the means of new birth?
Birth must precede the word if
is true, and that is not what the text clearly indicates.Regeneration preceding belief/faith is not found in scripture, the correct order, belief then regenerated, is clearly laid out over and over again.
So obviously a person can choose to respond to the power and truth of the Gospel message and not only that it is the very condition which God sets to receive the gift
"I" is out, therefore the rest of
is unnecessary and equally untrue, especially the major big lie that Christ Jesus did not take on the sins of the whole world/all /every single person.
Hard for people to acknowledge the very significant flaws in the doctrine they have decided to adopt of their own free will. lol
John 10:30~~I and the Father are one.”
Matthew 11 verse 27 ~ All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him.
John 12:32~~And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to Myself.”
John 6:40~~For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.”
Acts 16:31
Equal privilege and equal opportunity for ALL.
I'm not sure you got the point exactly, however here it is, the point was God for-knew you, so he already knows if your going to believe or not.
What difference does it truly make if we then use the meaning spiritually dead can't hear or believe.
He isn't going to change his mind. As he for-knew your life before you where born.
you must understand that surely.
I think what people don't understand is they think there born and everyone is equally so everyone has a chance, well what there missing is, all tho they've only just been born God still knew there whole life.
There you see made easy for you.
So to summarise, there will be not one single person God has not for-knew, but there will be many that will not believe and all those people are incapable of believing despite God for-knowing them, and to summarise this, the ones who are chosen are the ones who where regenerated before faith was given.
What was the faith well that would be, being handed over to the son.
So does it really matter if we then say the spiritualy dead are incapable of hearing or believing.
It's ok magenta I don't mind people not understanding it's just the above all people that get up my nose.
But most of time I just ignore them.
Honestly, not many posts in this particular discussion offer or align to the tenants given by Alexandria and perfected by Calvin and coronated by Lewis, surmized by Spurgeon, down to modern day past and present teachers.
In fact, you could not summarize the past and the modern to even find a happy medium within the context of these pages.
What you will ultimately get is the basic [(God made me do it and it's because His Sovereignty desires and needs it)].
So my stance is to oppose that kind of tripe if I am being honest. But if you read my posts you will also discover that I don't fall into the category of the definition of fwers that's being claimed. I am the outlier that sees truth in both idealisms. I use idealism because the misuse of Scripture is abusive from many sides of the spectrum.