I think the tree is an exploration into sinning, when Adam and Eves eyes were opened, they were seeing sin as not forbidden, that was Gods problem.
Why God the Father considered this fruit as forbidden?
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Hebrew for what God made is tunic or robe, not loincloth or apron.
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/3801.htm
you think they were stupid, but i roundly reject that. does not fit the narrative or the character of God.
why would insects be biting them before there was any death or sin in the world?
wrong on your last point too, there is recorded a specific order of events and the way to the tree was not guarded and preserved until after their judgement.
the fig tree is the only thing Christ cursed.
grapes, and wine, are called a blessing, and life is in the blood, not death.
Woman was deceived to think God was a liar, before her eyes were opened.
Adam was not deceived.
they did not think God is a liar when their eyes were opened, quite the opposite. they knew even more certainly He is not
Your research jumped ahead to the leather garments that God made
for them rather than describing the fig leaves they threw together for
themselves.
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I was just responding in a kind manner to the post concerning the type of fruit. That's all. Blessings.
That life we now have is mortal. We are mortal because of blood. Where did we get our mortality? Christ shed his blood on the cross as a picture of getting rid of what has corrupted us, sin. Anyway, blessings.
you're right; i forgot i was talking about the time they had and the decision Adam made, not the covering God gave them after their confession and Adam's display of faith.
yes they made girdles, God made robes that's very pertinent!
the question of 'why figs' is an important one
but He presented that blood on the heavenly, true altar - it can't be a symbol of corruption
and it can't answer, why fig leaves, why the cursed fig tree?
Jesus cursed the fig tree as a sign of Him bringing to an end the animal sacrificial system.but He presented that blood on the heavenly, true altar - it can't be a symbol of corruption
and it can't answer, why fig leaves, why the cursed fig tree?
The fig tree is a symbol/the emblem of the Judean nation, which seemed to be thriving -- with an
abundance of leaves -- but spiritually it was producing no fruit. Jesus often rebuked the scribes
and Pharisees for this lack of spiritual fruit, and in the same chapter of Matthew He concludes
(in the parable of the vineyard) by saying, "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall
be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof" (verse 43). Verse 45
continues, "And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard His parables, they perceived that
He spake of them." The cursing of the fig tree represented a curse on the nation of Judea.
In verse 20, when Jesus' disciples saw the fig tree wither away, they "marveled, saying, How soon is the
fig tree withered away!" This was a prophecy of the coming destruction of the Judean nation by the
Roman army under Titus in AD 70, only thirty-seven years later (which also brought an end to temple worship).
The destruction was also prophesied in another parable in Luke 13:6-9: "A certain man had a fig tree planted
in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. Then said he unto the dresser of his
vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why
cumbereth it the ground? And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig
about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down."
The three years of seeking fruit in the parable refer to the three years of Jesus' ministry. For these three years
Jesus sought but found no fruit among the Judeans, and so God was minded to cut the tree down. But the
dresser of the vineyard said to give it one more year, and he would fertilize it (by the preaching of his disciples)
to see if any fruit would be produced. But in the fourth year (Hebrew inclusive counting) it was evident there was
still no fruit, since they rejected and crucified Him, and so there was nothing left for the tree but to be cut down.
The fall of the Judean nation was also prophesied earlier by John the Baptist when he said, "And now also the axe is
laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
From Hebrews 10 verses 1 and 4, plus 1 Corinthians 5 verse 7 The law is only a shadow of the good things to come, not the realities themselves... because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Christ our Passover Lamb has been sacrificed for us. Thank you, Jesus!
Since Adam lived 930 years after he fell.
Therefore God the Father is talking about Spiritual death and not Physical death?
1 CORINTHIANS 2:13
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
God said in the day he eats, "dying you shall die" - - indicating a progressive state of dying would begin, that would culminate in certain death.
so no, not necessarily, or at least, not exclusively. while there is a spiritual-death component, it is primarily indicated that the physical death process began, the state of decay
Yeah.....Grapes do not grow on trees.
I agree... but who gives a fig?
The fig tree was a symbol used for the religion of Israel....
A metaphoric and literal way of saying that they covered up their sin with religiosity.
But hey, they were styling....
All pimp mamma and pimp daddy.
I'm saying that it had to be spiritual death because Adam did not die the same day in the flesh.
Why wouldn't it be spiritual death?
Didn't they lose their relationship with God? Did God continue walking and talking with them in the cool of the evening after they fell? No because they lost their relationship in the fall.
Dying in the flesh had nothing to do with it except that they were now subject to death in the flesh under the curse.
but He presented that blood on the heavenly, true altar - it can't be a symbol of corruption
and it can't answer, why fig leaves, why the cursed fig tree?
It can be a symbol as far as shedding, but only his blood could be a sacrifice, no other blood. The fig tree is a symbol of the condition of Israel as a whole, and their judgment to come. Adam and Eve tried to cover their sin with fig leaves, a symbol of man covering their sin by their own works.