Trumps Tariffs

[Texasgal]

If you search your own Constitution or just do a simple search on the internet about this., for example "Is the US President the leader of the people or are it's citizens who are in charge" I think both you and many others would be shocked at what you will find. There are multiple Scriptures in our Bible that speak of the Judges,masters leaders ect. which do exactly apply to what your referring to but Romans 13 in specific verses 1 and 2 points out that they are ordained by God.

This being the case in Scripture it is extremely important understand that if for instance in the UK they do have kings and Queens and so speaking evil of him/her would be in direct violation of these Scriptures. In the United States of America on the other hand in our Deceleration of Independence and in the structure of our Constitution we the people have no king or Queen that retains power over us and we the people elect public officials to enforce our laws and decrees in our behalf. So if We The people are then the leaders of our nation it is then important to examine who exactly is speaking evil of who. In the many branches of our government the POTUS is head of the Executive branch and our government is structured this way to limit the power of any one branch over we the people.

In direct opposite of what seems to be thought two hundred and fifty years ago God the Almighty ORDAINED THE LEADERSHIP AND AUTHORITY TO WE THE PEOPLE NOT TO ANY KING OR QUEEN. And so also in direct opposite these public servants that we(we the people) elect surly better watch what they do and say against THEIR LEADERS WHO ARE ORDAINED BY GOD. You,me and every citizen of this nation were ordained by God as the leaders of this nation do not let any movement nor political party rise up and overthrow your freedom by insisting they are your ordained King or Queen and that we can no longer put them out of the public office we have put them in. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans 13&version=KJV

That’s the American spirit!

 

[Texasgal]

Every single leader in our government can be removed legally, prosecuted and convicted. Prior to that they have the presumption of innocence. As long as they are in office that position of authority was ordained by God and therefore comes with this level of respect.

God ordained us, the people to vote them in, or out, so that is a moot point.

 

[Squigglylines]

God ordained us, the people to vote them in, or out, so that is a moot point.

They seek to cast off the judgment of God by setting it on the head of their servant.

 

[ZNP]

They seek to cast off the judgment of God by setting it on the head of their servant.

Are you still talking about my quoting Paul who said you shall not speak evil of a ruler of your people? If so are you equating the evil speaking against elected officials to the Judgement of God?

 

[Squigglylines]

Are you still talking about my quoting Paul who said you shall not speak evil of a ruler of your people? If so are you equating the evil speaking against elected officials to the Judgement of God?

Yes to the first part. To the second part those elected officials place their hand on the Bible and take an oath to protect the constitution of the United States set together by We the People. Afterwards We the people judge them every four to eight years. The ruler over the people in Paul's day was the Caesar of Rome. The ruler's over the United States of America are We the People and the judgment of God will set upon our heads not our servants.

 

[ZNP]

Yes to the first part. To the second part those elected officials place their hand on the Bible and take an oath to protect the constitution of the United States set together by We the People. Afterwards We the people judge them every four to eight years. The ruler over the people in Paul's day was the Caesar of Rome. The ruler's over the United States of America are We the People and the judgment of God will set upon our heads not our servants.

So was that a yes or a no to the second part?

 

[tablet123]

Are they going to strengthen our Economy, or weaken it?

Are they going to drive up the cost of pretty much everything?

IMO, they are going to end up hurting the average person. Especially low income people/families. There is no way the Manufacturers are going to "eat the rising cost" of producing their product(s). They are going to do what they always do, PASS IT ON!

Honestly, I do not understand Trumps thinking on this. Tariffs never help in the way those imposing them want. Buckle up and start cutting Coupons now..... sigh ...........

I believe the tariffs are designed to hurt people financially in America.

I believe they want to crash the economy on purpose.

Recall food.

Mess with social security and disability.

They probably lie about the debt so they can blame that for the economy crashing.

With other nations crashing their economy.

That way the people have to depend on the government to support their needs and the government has control.

They pointed out all the gun shootings big time for a while possibly making some up.

And now they are pointing out family members killing each other and many articles about children possibly making some up.

Florida mom 'upset' about not going out for her birthday strikes baby boy in head before bath and allows him to drown.

Florida mom 'jump on daughter's stomach like an ant until she dies'.

Just like when they were pointing out the gun shootings person gets shot because their fries were cold.

They want people to think big crime, cannot trust anyone, unsafe.

Pointing out all the chaos in the world, threat of nuclear war, poverty.

What to to.

United Nations Agenda 21 for the 21st century which is known as Agenda 30 for the year 2030 when they want it implemented.

They want to move all people in to the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and the people are the police force.

They want to give the people a microchip under the skin linked to satellite like a GPS tracking system for humans.

They can watch the people, and know their location, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene.

This will cut out judges, lawyers, and the now known police force.

All information about the person will be on the chip including finances for it is the one world economic system.

Once the governments have control for people are crying out then they can tell them if they locate to the cities they will receive a stimulus check to meet their needs and that crime will drop significantly and free health care.

Also many people want to ban junk food because they do not want it in the cities.

Many stores closing because they do not need them.

Pumping out electric cars for anything that pollutes is gone including factories.

 

[Texasgal]

Are you still talking about my quoting Paul who said you shall not speak evil of a ruler of your people? If so are you equating the evil speaking against elected officials to the Judgement of God?

We don’t have a ruler here. What we have is an elected representative who can be thrown out of office by the vote of the people. If your sentiment was to be taken seriously we would have to ban elections. Maybe that’s the plan?

 

[DeanM]

I believe the tariffs are designed to hurt people financially in America.

I believe they want to crash the economy on purpose.

Recall food.

Mess with social security and disability.

They probably lie about the debt so they can blame that for the economy crashing.

With other nations crashing their economy.

That way the people have to depend on the government to support their needs and the government has control.

They pointed out all the gun shootings big time for a while possibly making some up.

And now they are pointing out family members killing each other and many articles about children possibly making some up.

Florida mom 'upset' about not going out for her birthday strikes baby boy in head before bath and allows him to drown.

Florida mom 'jump on daughter's stomach like an ant until she dies'.

Just like when they were pointing out the gun shootings person gets shot because their fries were cold.

They want people to think big crime, cannot trust anyone, unsafe.

Pointing out all the chaos in the world, threat of nuclear war, poverty.

What to to.

United Nations Agenda 21 for the 21st century which is known as Agenda 30 for the year 2030 when they want it implemented.

They want to move all people in to the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and the people are the police force.

They want to give the people a microchip under the skin linked to satellite like a GPS tracking system for humans.

They can watch the people, and know their location, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene.

This will cut out judges, lawyers, and the now known police force.

All information about the person will be on the chip including finances for it is the one world economic system.

Once the governments have control for people are crying out then they can tell them if they locate to the cities they will receive a stimulus check to meet their needs and that crime will drop significantly and free health care.

Also many people want to ban junk food because they do not want it in the cities.

Many stores closing because they do not need them.

Pumping out electric cars for anything that pollutes is gone including factories.

You do know Biden is no longer in the white house right?

 

[ZNP]

We don’t have a ruler here. What we have is an elected representative who can be thrown out of office by the vote of the people. If your sentiment was to be taken seriously we would have to ban elections. Maybe that’s the plan?

Answer the question, are you speaking on behalf of God?

I am not asking about elections, no one is questioning whether or not you can vote someone out of office. The question is about speaking evil of someone who is in office.

 

[Squigglylines]

So was that a yes or a no to the second part?

If your referencing the Scripture you gave then Acts 23:5A would be where I would suggest looking because Paul had no problem doing it until he realized he was the High Priest, so yes the representative Paul seemed to have no problem speaking evil of. Rome its self though was over Israel at that time which is why I spoke of Caesar and then today We the People in our nation hold those similar roles(ruler,leader ect.). No would be the answer if you equate the elected officials back to those same representatives Paul thought was speaking to him and ordering him to be struck on the mouth.

 

[NightTwister]

Are they going to strengthen our Economy, or weaken it?

Are they going to drive up the cost of pretty much everything?

IMO, they are going to end up hurting the average person. Especially low income people/families. There is no way the Manufacturers are going to "eat the rising cost" of producing their product(s). They are going to do what they always do, PASS IT ON!

Honestly, I do not understand Trumps thinking on this. Tariffs never help in the way those imposing them want. Buckle up and start cutting Coupons now..... sigh ...........

So you're saying you prefer lower prices on goods made with slave and child labor in a Totalitarian country?

 

[Squigglylines]

We don’t have a ruler here. What we have is an elected representative who can be thrown out of office by the vote of the people. If your sentiment was to be taken seriously we would have to ban elections. Maybe that’s the plan?

Yes indeed the plan is to re-draw the districts in both the Democratic states and Republican states and manipulate the votes cast by We the people in a double coup attempt. One party nullifying the vote of the We the People on the left while on the other side the Republicans do the same and nullify the vote the same way. You would think that both Republican and Democrat voters would realize that they are openly confessing to a take over of power by manipulating the votes we cast but as citizens we both must be completely dumbed down or if not we would be on the same side of this issue.

 

[ZNP]

If your referencing the Scripture you gave then Acts 23:5A would be where I would suggest looking because Paul had no problem doing it until he realized he was the High Priest, so yes the representative Paul seemed to have no problem speaking evil of. Rome its self though was over Israel at that time which is why I spoke of Caesar and then today We the People in our nation hold those similar roles(ruler,leader ect.). No would be the answer if you equate the elected officials back to those same representatives Paul thought was speaking to him and ordering him to be struck on the mouth.

So then, is that a yes or a no? Are you claiming that you are speaking on behalf of God? Or you simply judging other people on your own?

 

[Squigglylines]

So then, is that a yes or a no? Are you claiming that you are speaking on behalf of God? Or you simply judging other people on your own?

It's right there in the last sentence, "no would be the answer". You must have really made bad grades in school.

 

[Squigglylines]

It's right there in the last sentence, "no would be the answer". You must have really made bad grades in school.

That was rude I suppose please forgive me. I think I should just leave the forum for a while.

 

[ZNP]

It's right there in the last sentence, "no would be the answer". You must have really made bad grades in school.

Thank you, so you are judging others on your own and its OK because they are elected officials.

 

[ZNP]

That was rude I suppose please forgive me. I think I should just leave the forum for a while.

Not an issue, I am not defensive over my grades in school.

 

[Squigglylines]

Thank you, so you are judging others on your own and its OK because they are elected officials.

And so if you can now see the difference between a secular government and Acts 23:5 which is not but instead of Israel/God do you do the same? Did you pass your judgment on election day in the secular government of the US and decide to vote for one candidate over the other based on your judgment?

 

[ZNP]

And so if you can now see the difference between a secular government and Acts 23:5 which is not but instead of Israel/God do you do the same? Did you pass your judgment on election day in the secular government of the US and decide to vote for one candidate over the other based on your judgment?

Sure, I passed judgement with my vote and that did not include speaking evil of men made in the image of God.